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October 09, 2014, 07:20:04 PM
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People have made computers, memory, calculators, whatever with Redstone in the game of minecraft.
Is it possible to do ripemd-160 and sha-256 and base-58 with Redstone?

This would be pretty cool.

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October 09, 2014, 07:51:09 PM
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I bet we don't have any redsnone masters in here.  Grin I've seen some advanced somputers in minecraft, but those are only capable of running basic applications like tic tac toe and such. This one is the most advanced I'm aware, please correct me if I'm wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go5qdMKZs-M

But from what I know, there is a costumizable Random Number Generator for command blocks. https://imgur.com/a/xrz66

Someone could try costomizing this and see how far it would get him.

Also you can make a Random Number Generator with vanilla redstone.
https://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/126856/how-can-i-make-a-random-number-generator-with-vanilla-redstone

Source: I've tried using some of those (not for the same reason you are aksing). I failed gracefully but I've still hundreds of playhours with minecraft, most of them from the early stages of the game.

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October 09, 2014, 07:59:24 PM
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Let me get this straight.. this is a computer built in a computer game.

If so.. that is pretty cool.
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October 09, 2014, 08:06:14 PM
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Let me get this straight.. this is a computer built in a computer game.

If so.. that is pretty cool.

For all you know, every computer you've ever used is a computer built in a computer game.

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October 09, 2014, 08:07:32 PM
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Let me get this straight.. this is a computer built in a computer game.

If so.. that is pretty cool.

For all you know, every computer you've ever used is a computer built in a computer game.

I try not to think about the fact we might just be a simulation.
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October 09, 2014, 08:08:59 PM
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But from what I know, there is a costumizable Random Number Generator for command blocks. https://imgur.com/a/xrz66

Someone could try costomizing this and see how far it would get him.

Also you can make a Random Number Generator with vanilla redstone.
https://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/126856/how-can-i-make-a-random-number-generator-with-vanilla-redstone

For Bitcoin or any other cryptographic purpose, you want to make absolutely sure that your random number generator is solid:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptographically_secure_pseudorandom_number_generator

Flaws in random number generation have made certain Bitcoin applications vulnerable in the last year or two.

Obviously if you don't intend to use a generated key for anything serious, it doesn't much matter how good your RNG is.

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October 09, 2014, 09:19:14 PM
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But from what I know, there is a costumizable Random Number Generator for command blocks. https://imgur.com/a/xrz66

Someone could try costomizing this and see how far it would get him.

Also you can make a Random Number Generator with vanilla redstone.
https://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/126856/how-can-i-make-a-random-number-generator-with-vanilla-redstone

For Bitcoin or any other cryptographic purpose, you want to make absolutely sure that your random number generator is solid:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptographically_secure_pseudorandom_number_generator

Flaws in random number generation have made certain Bitcoin applications vulnerable in the last year or two.

Obviously if you don't intend to use a generated key for anything serious, it doesn't much matter how good your RNG is.
I think it would be less of a "I will use this keyset to store thousands of bitcoins" and more of a "I created a bitcoin keyset in Minecraft" Tongue
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October 09, 2014, 09:31:13 PM
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But from what I know, there is a costumizable Random Number Generator for command blocks. https://imgur.com/a/xrz66

Someone could try costomizing this and see how far it would get him.

Also you can make a Random Number Generator with vanilla redstone.
https://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/126856/how-can-i-make-a-random-number-generator-with-vanilla-redstone

For Bitcoin or any other cryptographic purpose, you want to make absolutely sure that your random number generator is solid:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptographically_secure_pseudorandom_number_generator

Flaws in random number generation have made certain Bitcoin applications vulnerable in the last year or two.

Obviously if you don't intend to use a generated key for anything serious, it doesn't much matter how good your RNG is.
I think it would be less of a "I will use this keyset to store thousands of bitcoins" and more of a "I created a bitcoin keyset in Minecraft" Tongue

I should certainly hope so!

But I felt it was good to put a warning out there for anyone who just doesn't quite get it...

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October 09, 2014, 10:36:32 PM
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All these cool ways to mine bit coins are not at all efficient but more of a novelty item. Just like that way to mine bit coins using pen and paper.

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October 09, 2014, 10:38:49 PM
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On a semi related note on simulation - would using a steganography tool to steg offline wallets/key/password work or be a useful idea?

You say "anti government" like that's a bad thing...

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This is really fascinating stuff. I just don't have the time for other digital world outside of bitcoin. It would be great if you guys could keep this kind of topic fresh.
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October 11, 2014, 11:35:13 PM
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But from what I know, there is a costumizable Random Number Generator for command blocks. https://imgur.com/a/xrz66

Someone could try costomizing this and see how far it would get him.

Also you can make a Random Number Generator with vanilla redstone.
https://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/126856/how-can-i-make-a-random-number-generator-with-vanilla-redstone

For Bitcoin or any other cryptographic purpose, you want to make absolutely sure that your random number generator is solid:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptographically_secure_pseudorandom_number_generator

Flaws in random number generation have made certain Bitcoin applications vulnerable in the last year or two.

Obviously if you don't intend to use a generated key for anything serious, it doesn't much matter how good your RNG is.
I think it would be less of a "I will use this keyset to store thousands of bitcoins" and more of a "I created a bitcoin keyset in Minecraft" Tongue

I should certainly hope so!

But I felt it was good to put a warning out there for anyone who just doesn't quite get it...
I understand the advice but I assume anyone with the technical knowhow and knowledge in cryptography enough to build a key generator in minecraft would know that it should be used to store large funds.
This would not be a good idea. minecraft is not open source so you do not know exactly what you are running when you create and store a key minecraft. Basic security principles state that any software you use  to create a private key and to store a private key should be open source so it can be reviewed by the community
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October 12, 2014, 07:12:02 PM
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But from what I know, there is a costumizable Random Number Generator for command blocks. https://imgur.com/a/xrz66

Someone could try costomizing this and see how far it would get him.

Also you can make a Random Number Generator with vanilla redstone.
https://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/126856/how-can-i-make-a-random-number-generator-with-vanilla-redstone

For Bitcoin or any other cryptographic purpose, you want to make absolutely sure that your random number generator is solid:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptographically_secure_pseudorandom_number_generator

Flaws in random number generation have made certain Bitcoin applications vulnerable in the last year or two.

Obviously if you don't intend to use a generated key for anything serious, it doesn't much matter how good your RNG is.
I think it would be less of a "I will use this keyset to store thousands of bitcoins" and more of a "I created a bitcoin keyset in Minecraft" Tongue

I should certainly hope so!

But I felt it was good to put a warning out there for anyone who just doesn't quite get it...
I understand the advice but I assume anyone with the technical knowhow and knowledge in cryptography enough to build a key generator in minecraft would know that it should be used to store large funds.
This would not be a good idea. minecraft is not open source so you do not know exactly what you are running when you create and store a key minecraft. Basic security principles state that any software you use  to create a private key and to store a private key should be open source so it can be reviewed by the community
I agree. You have the potential to either lose your private keys or they somehow will be leaked to either another user or leaked to the maker of minecraft. You should always generate your keys yourself with a proper RNG
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October 12, 2014, 11:46:50 PM
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But from what I know, there is a costumizable Random Number Generator for command blocks. https://imgur.com/a/xrz66

Someone could try costomizing this and see how far it would get him.

Also you can make a Random Number Generator with vanilla redstone.
https://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/126856/how-can-i-make-a-random-number-generator-with-vanilla-redstone

For Bitcoin or any other cryptographic purpose, you want to make absolutely sure that your random number generator is solid:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptographically_secure_pseudorandom_number_generator

Flaws in random number generation have made certain Bitcoin applications vulnerable in the last year or two.

Obviously if you don't intend to use a generated key for anything serious, it doesn't much matter how good your RNG is.
I think it would be less of a "I will use this keyset to store thousands of bitcoins" and more of a "I created a bitcoin keyset in Minecraft" Tongue

I should certainly hope so!

But I felt it was good to put a warning out there for anyone who just doesn't quite get it...
I understand the advice but I assume anyone with the technical knowhow and knowledge in cryptography enough to build a key generator in minecraft would know that it should be used to store large funds.
This would not be a good idea. minecraft is not open source so you do not know exactly what you are running when you create and store a key minecraft. Basic security principles state that any software you use  to create a private key and to store a private key should be open source so it can be reviewed by the community
He meant to say that anyone with the cryptography knowledge to make keys in Minecraft would know not to use them to store money.
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October 13, 2014, 12:03:02 AM
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Let me get this straight.. this is a computer built in a computer game.

If so.. that is pretty cool.

Yo Dawg... I heard you like computers... lol


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October 13, 2014, 12:13:56 AM
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I bet we don't have any redsnone masters in hereGrin I've seen some advanced somputers in minecraft, but those are only capable of running basic applications like tic tac toe and such. This one is the most advanced I'm aware, please correct me if I'm wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go5qdMKZs-M

But from what I know, there is a costumizable Random Number Generator for command blocks. https://imgur.com/a/xrz66

Someone could try costomizing this and see how far it would get him.

Also you can make a Random Number Generator with vanilla redstone.
https://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/126856/how-can-i-make-a-random-number-generator-with-vanilla-redstone

Source: I've tried using some of those (not for the same reason you are aksing). I failed gracefully but I've still hundreds of playhours with minecraft, most of them from the early stages of the game.
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October 13, 2014, 06:20:06 AM
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Let me get this straight.. this is a computer built in a computer game.

If so.. that is pretty cool.

Yep

And I guess it could be possible I mean if it can be programmed why not
Can imagine it trying to mine bitcoins kid Smiley

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October 13, 2014, 12:47:23 PM
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I guess this would still be easier with just command blocks. Compare the random number generator to the computers. Which one do you think is easier to make and program?

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October 13, 2014, 01:25:07 PM
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Let me get this straight.. this is a computer built in a computer game.

If so.. that is pretty cool.

Yo Dawg... I heard you like computers... lol



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October 13, 2014, 02:52:23 PM
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All these cool ways to mine bit coins are not at all efficient but more of a novelty item. Just like that way to mine bit coins using pen and paper.

Nobody is talking about mining in this thread but rather about generating keys.

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