Unarmed teen shot by cops for a sandwich

[RodeoX]

as an armed civilian, police should not do things arbitrarily like that, it is beyond humanity, armed police should have been posted under multiple tests, especially psychological tests, namely how their emotions are very influential when holding a gun, shoot someone who is not guilty without a weapon is something really not justified by the law, hopefully it can be processed according to the law and get a just punishment ... 

You may want to check this story again. The police are saying that he was armed and in fact fired at least three shots at police. There are no other witnesses. It is not clear where the sandwich story came from. Evidence on the scene is described as consistent with the police account. 

[EternalWingsofGod]

Maybe they should just fire the police forces in the USA
Instead of saying cops always know best
Then again could just be another race issue since the sandwich could be sketch guess it just points to a larger problem of police forces using lethal force instead of non lethal force

[DonDev]

Human life has no value in america as these cases are happening on daily basis. At least that's what I see from watching the news. Maybe they should not arm all cops and have a special police unit that comes later with weapons like they have in UK that's the most civilized and well behaved police I have seen to date.

[Wilikon]

Forensics: St. Louis Black Teen Whose Death Triggered Massive Protests Fired At Police Officer First…

Gunshot residue tests and ballistics evidence indicate that Vonderitt D. Myers Jr. fired a gun at a police officer before being fatally shot, police and union officials said Tuesday.

Although police officials have already said that Myers fired at least three shots at an off-duty police officer before the officer returned fire, the newly released evidence could further dispel claims by friends and family that Myers was holding a sandwich, not a gun, when he was shot. The officer, who has not been named, was working for a private security company in the Shaw neighborhood.

Myers’ Oct. 8 death sparked protests in Shaw and fueled area-wide protests resulting from the Aug. 9 shooting of 18-year-old Michael Brown by a Ferguson police officer.

The Missouri Highway Patrol analysis found gunshot residue on Myers’ hands, on his shirt and inside the waistband and pockets of his jeans. Police said that although gunshot residue can be present on anyone near a shooting, the results show levels consistent with Myers being the shooter, because the police officer was standing too far away.

Ballistics evidence also revealed three bullets that hit the ground where the officer was trying to take cover matched Myers’ gun. A round found inside a car behind the officer was too badly damaged to be able to match it to his gun, however, it did not match the type of bullets the officer fired, police said.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/article_3dafbce7-22b0-5c9a-b7e5-98460279f135.html#.VD1r9chj7vI.twitter

[BCEmporium]

That picture real sounds like "Hey mum! Just made 3 sandwiches!" 

[awesome31312]

Forensics: St. Louis Black Teen Whose Death Triggered Massive Protests Fired At Police Officer First…

Gunshot residue tests and ballistics evidence indicate that Vonderitt D. Myers Jr. fired a gun at a police officer before being fatally shot, police and union officials said Tuesday.

Although police officials have already said that Myers fired at least three shots at an off-duty police officer before the officer returned fire, the newly released evidence could further dispel claims by friends and family that Myers was holding a sandwich, not a gun, when he was shot. The officer, who has not been named, was working for a private security company in the Shaw neighborhood.

Myers’ Oct. 8 death sparked protests in Shaw and fueled area-wide protests resulting from the Aug. 9 shooting of 18-year-old Michael Brown by a Ferguson police officer.

The Missouri Highway Patrol analysis found gunshot residue on Myers’ hands, on his shirt and inside the waistband and pockets of his jeans. Police said that although gunshot residue can be present on anyone near a shooting, the results show levels consistent with Myers being the shooter, because the police officer was standing too far away.

Ballistics evidence also revealed three bullets that hit the ground where the officer was trying to take cover matched Myers’ gun. A round found inside a car behind the officer was too badly damaged to be able to match it to his gun, however, it did not match the type of bullets the officer fired, police said.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/article_3dafbce7-22b0-5c9a-b7e5-98460279f135.html#.VD1r9chj7vI.twitter

Not the first time the press has done this

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2722613/African-Americans-Twitter-protest-media-s-portrayal-black-people-wake-police-killing-teenager-Michael-Brown-iftheygunnedmedown-hashtag.html

[axel2078]

I live near St. Louis.  This place is full of ghetto wannabe thugs and I get so tired of hearing "he just a good boy tryna turn his life around." In this case, the guy had a gun and later tests confirmed the gun powder on his body, indicating he did fire on the cop first. Incredibly (but not surprisingly) there are now protests that this white cop killed another innocent black man, even though the guy shot at the cop first.

[awesome31312]

You guys need to check your privilege.

[axel2078]

You guys need to check your privilege.

Not sure if this was meant sarcastically or not. 

[awesome31312]

If a black guy is shot, the media will always portray him as a thug
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/29/1325816/-Comparing-How-The-New-York-Times-Described-Mike-Brown-Ted-Bundy

[the joint]

Anyone who thinks 17 rounds is excessive has clearly been watching too many movies and has no idea of how gunfighting actually works in reality. In a gunfight, you keep shooting until your opponent is dead or unconscious, or they drop their weapon, surrender, or escape, or you run out of ammo. The latter outcome is one of the most common, as people usually do not instantly drop dead when shot. A single gunshot wound is rarely fatal, and even a fatal wound rarely kills quickly. It almost always takes multiple shots to quickly incapacitate someone, often a surprisingly large number to someone who's never seen an actual gunfight. This is one of the main reasons the police switched from revolvers to semiautomatics: revolvers may be simpler to use, but the people who say "6 shots is enough to kill anything" just plain don't know what the fuck they're talking about.

It's interesting you mention this.  I saw a video on YouTube just a few days ago showing a black man in (I think?) his 20's get shot in the hip by a police officer at a gas station while (oops) reaching back into his car after he was already out of it.  The guy barely looked like he got shot -- even though you can clearly see it happen -- as he walked backwards out of the frame.  Then, you literally hear him ask the officer in a calm voice, "Why...why did you shoot me?"  

Edit: ...Which was a fantastic question.

[awesome31312]

Anyone who thinks 17 rounds is excessive has clearly been watching too many movies and has no idea of how gunfighting actually works in reality. In a gunfight, you keep shooting until your opponent is dead or unconscious, or they drop their weapon, surrender, or escape, or you run out of ammo. The latter outcome is one of the most common, as people usually do not instantly drop dead when shot. A single gunshot wound is rarely fatal, and even a fatal wound rarely kills quickly. It almost always takes multiple shots to quickly incapacitate someone, often a surprisingly large number to someone who's never seen an actual gunfight. This is one of the main reasons the police switched from revolvers to semiautomatics: revolvers may be simpler to use, but the people who say "6 shots is enough to kill anything" just plain don't know what the fuck they're talking about.

It's interesting you mention this.  I saw a video on YouTube just a few days ago showing a black man in (I think?) his 20's get shot in the hip by a police officer at a gas station while (oops) reaching back into his car after he was already out of it.  The guy barely looked like he got shot -- even though you can clearly see it happen -- as he walked backwards out of the frame.  Then, you literally hear him ask the officer in a calm voice, "Why...why did you shoot me?"

Don't forget the kid who "shot himself" while handcuffed in the backseat of a cop car

[the joint]

Anyone who thinks 17 rounds is excessive has clearly been watching too many movies and has no idea of how gunfighting actually works in reality. In a gunfight, you keep shooting until your opponent is dead or unconscious, or they drop their weapon, surrender, or escape, or you run out of ammo. The latter outcome is one of the most common, as people usually do not instantly drop dead when shot. A single gunshot wound is rarely fatal, and even a fatal wound rarely kills quickly. It almost always takes multiple shots to quickly incapacitate someone, often a surprisingly large number to someone who's never seen an actual gunfight. This is one of the main reasons the police switched from revolvers to semiautomatics: revolvers may be simpler to use, but the people who say "6 shots is enough to kill anything" just plain don't know what the fuck they're talking about.

It's interesting you mention this.  I saw a video on YouTube just a few days ago showing a black man in (I think?) his 20's get shot in the hip by a police officer at a gas station while (oops) reaching back into his car after he was already out of it.  The guy barely looked like he got shot -- even though you can clearly see it happen -- as he walked backwards out of the frame.  Then, you literally hear him ask the officer in a calm voice, "Why...why did you shoot me?"

Don't forget the kid who "shot himself" while handcuffed in the backseat of a cop car

I wasn't implying he deserved it at all, if that's what you thought I did.  It was ludicrous, the officer shot like five rounds at him.  I didn't see what you're referring to.

[awesome31312]

Anyone who thinks 17 rounds is excessive has clearly been watching too many movies and has no idea of how gunfighting actually works in reality. In a gunfight, you keep shooting until your opponent is dead or unconscious, or they drop their weapon, surrender, or escape, or you run out of ammo. The latter outcome is one of the most common, as people usually do not instantly drop dead when shot. A single gunshot wound is rarely fatal, and even a fatal wound rarely kills quickly. It almost always takes multiple shots to quickly incapacitate someone, often a surprisingly large number to someone who's never seen an actual gunfight. This is one of the main reasons the police switched from revolvers to semiautomatics: revolvers may be simpler to use, but the people who say "6 shots is enough to kill anything" just plain don't know what the fuck they're talking about.

It's interesting you mention this.  I saw a video on YouTube just a few days ago showing a black man in (I think?) his 20's get shot in the hip by a police officer at a gas station while (oops) reaching back into his car after he was already out of it.  The guy barely looked like he got shot -- even though you can clearly see it happen -- as he walked backwards out of the frame.  Then, you literally hear him ask the officer in a calm voice, "Why...why did you shoot me?"

Don't forget the kid who "shot himself" while handcuffed in the backseat of a cop car

I wasn't implying he deserved it at all, if that's what you thought I did.  It was ludicrous, the officer shot like five rounds at him.  I didn't see what you're referring to.

This is what I was referring to