[Poll] Free Ross OR Kill Ross <search for public opinion>

[BayAreaCoins]

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That mouth is going to be handy in jail, i voted 30 years!

He paid for murders and i know we don't know it's fact but we do know he paid for them.  

It's all hearsay. Nobody has come forward with a claim that Ross did the wrong from a first-hand stance. Nobody has come forward to say, "Ross paid me to be a hit man." Yet, somehow we just know that Ross did it.

Do they even have pics of real dead folks?

Imagine it was the FEDS the whole time building a case on all sides.

Ran a multi-billion dollar drug ring and I haven't seen a single body... pretty decent example for ballsey folks in the future (who aren't in america hopefully)

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[Conqueror]

Lifetime.

[sintax]

How many lives were saved by not having to buy drugs off the streets?
How many careers were saved when people weren't caught buying a $10 bag of weed?
When was the last time you could ask your local dealer for independent feedback on their products?

I would much prefer the CEO's of Big Pharma corps were locked up indefinately, they've helped kill much more people than any darkmarket. Keep jacking yourself up with those prescription drugs

[HarryPotHead]

How many lives were saved by not having to buy drugs off the streets?
How many careers were saved when people weren't caught buying a $10 bag of weed?
When was the last time you could ask your local dealer for independent feedback on their products?

I would much prefer the CEO's of Big Pharma corps were locked up indefinately, they've helped kill much more people than any darkmarket. Keep jacking yourself up with those prescription drugs

While I agree that I to would love to see big pharma corps locked up that can't happen because that means locking themselves up doesn't it, that would already have been done but to much money and control at stake. Ross could have just bailed at any minute after he earned his first $100,000,000 lol but he chose to stay and go full retard. I think he should be freeed and robbing him was enough punishment.

[QuestionAuthority]

How many lives were saved by not having to buy drugs off the streets?
How many careers were saved when people weren't caught buying a $10 bag of weed?
When was the last time you could ask your local dealer for independent feedback on their products?

I would much prefer the CEO's of Big Pharma corps were locked up indefinately, they've helped kill much more people than any darkmarket. Keep jacking yourself up with those prescription drugs

But drug companies are legal because they pay their dues to the government. Think of political hypocrisy and imagine the face of your favorite politician when you read the quote below.

Your actions speak so loudly that I cannot hear what you say.

                                                                         ~Ralph Waldo Emerson

[Biomech]

How many lives were saved by not having to buy drugs off the streets?
How many careers were saved when people weren't caught buying a $10 bag of weed?
When was the last time you could ask your local dealer for independent feedback on their products?

I would much prefer the CEO's of Big Pharma corps were locked up indefinately, they've helped kill much more people than any darkmarket. Keep jacking yourself up with those prescription drugs

But drug companies are legal because they pay their dues to the government. Think of political hypocrisy and imagine the face of your favorite politician when you read the quote below.

Your actions speak so loudly that I cannot hear what you say.

                                                                         ~Ralph Waldo Emerson

Aye. What Ross did, if he is indeed DPR (I am not convinced), was to do what they do without their sanction. If he had done it with their sanction, any harm he may have done would be ignored.

A politician wants power like a drowning man wants air. Before becoming a full fledged anarchist, I briefly thought the Repugnicans had better ideals than the Democraps. I worked on the camapaign of a (now former) state governor, and met most of the republican leadership during that time. They were almost all truly evil men, in every sense of the word. But even the few who weren't still wanted that power. They wanted to do good with it, but wanting the power was FAR more important than what they did with it.

[Wilikon]

Bob Ross to Ross Ulbricht...

[bryant.coleman]

While I agree that I to would love to see big pharma corps locked up that can't happen because that means locking themselves up doesn't it, that would already have been done but to much money and control at stake. Ross could have just bailed at any minute after he earned his first $100,000,000 lol but he chose to stay and go full retard. I think he should be freeed and robbing him was enough punishment.

There were mainly three groups of people who suffered considerable losses as a result of the Silk Road. These people are:

1. Mexican drug cartels: Lost millions of $$$ as people began to buy cheaper and high-quality weed from SR.
2. Bankers: Lost millions of $$$, as people began to buy bullion and pre-paid debit cards from SR.
3. Pharma: Lost millions of $$$, as people began to buy cheaper and high-quality pharma drugs from SR.

[WhatTheGox]

Is it possible there could be a point in the future where ross is free due to a change in drug law of gov perhaps losing grip of power? They only have him in jail because they can right.

[sintax]

Is it possible there could be a point in the future where ross is free due to a charge in drug law of gov perhaps losing grip of power? They only have him in jail because they can right.

I doubt he would be released due to drug law changes unless the US gov legalizes crack, heroin and other hard drugs, can't see that happening anytime soon.

They want to make an example of him to deter future DPR's from cutting into the CIA's profit margins

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/12/13/420107/-CIA-Torture-Jet-wrecks-with-4-Tons-of-COCAINE

[bryant.coleman]

I am just tired of the American double standards.

When Taliban was in power in Afghanistan, they had almost eradicated the opium poppy cultivation there. As a result, the heroin smuggling to Russia and Iran was reduced to almost nothing.

After the US-led invasion of Afghanistan, the NATO actively encouraged the opium poppy cultivation there, giving all sort of help and subsidies to the farmers. The ultimate aim was to make Russian and Iranian youngsters addicted to heroin. It is estimated that in Russia alone, some 2 million people have died from heroin addiction in the past 15 years.

An Afghan man harvests opium in a poppy field while US soldiers look on in a village in Golestan district, Farah province, Afghanistan:



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/worldnews/5279303/Opium-harvest-in-Afghanistan.html

[QuestionAuthority]

I am just tired of the American double standards.

When Taliban was in power in Afghanistan, they had almost eradicated the opium poppy cultivation there. As a result, the heroin smuggling to Russia and Iran was reduced to almost nothing.

After the US-led invasion of Afghanistan, the NATO actively encouraged the opium poppy cultivation there, giving all sort of help and subsidies to the farmers. The ultimate aim was to make Russian and Iranian youngsters addicted to heroin. It is estimated that in Russia alone, some 2 million people have died from heroin addiction in the past 15 years.

An Afghan man harvests opium in a poppy field while US soldiers look on in a village in Golestan district, Farah province, Afghanistan:



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/worldnews/5279303/Opium-harvest-in-Afghanistan.html

But in their view it doesn't matter what they do to those filthy heathens overseas. Ross allowed drugs to be sold to purebred whitie children in college at home and without paying any tax. I'm surprised he wasn't just called a terrorist and taken straight to gitmo without a trial.

Rape a white American woman on U.S. soil and go to prison. Go to war with Vietnam and rape and kill a woman but call her a VC and get promoted. See the difference?

[bryant.coleman]

But in their view it doesn't matter what they do to those filthy heathens overseas. Ross allowed drugs to be sold to purebred whitie children in college at home and without paying any tax. I'm surprised he wasn't just called a terrorist and taken straight to gitmo without a trial.

Most of the 2 million Russians, who died as a result of the NATO-sponsored heroin trafficking to Russia were white as well. So this has nothing to do with race. The Americans wanted to destroy the younger generations in Russia and Iran, and that's why we are having the NATO actively engaging in the Afghan opium poppy cultivation.

[QuestionAuthority]

The Americans wanted to destroy the younger generations in Russia and Iran, and that's why we are having the NATO actively engaging in the Afghan opium poppy cultivation.

Nah it's cause the CIA gets most of its dark money through running the global drug trade.

http://www.cob.sjsu.edu/facstaff/davis_r/fallout.htm

Yeah that and we don't really give a shit what happens to people overseas. They're like dogs to us. We look at the ads on TV of dogs being murdered in shelters and say "Oh, isn't that sad" but we won't get off the sofa to go rescue a dog from the shelter. So Russians and Iranians are just dogs.

[bryant.coleman]

The Americans wanted to destroy the younger generations in Russia and Iran, and that's why we are having the NATO actively engaging in the Afghan opium poppy cultivation.

Nah it's cause the CIA gets most of its dark money through running the global drug trade.

http://www.cob.sjsu.edu/facstaff/davis_r/fallout.htm

I don't think that they are after the money. Agencies such as the CIA are having more than enough money, in the form of funds from the Central government. As I had posted earlier, their motives are purely political. If they weaken the society in Iran and Russia by destroying the younger generation, it will be easier for the United States to defeat these nations in case of any future warfare.

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

Back on topic. Two things.

1. DPR was prepared to have Green executed because he stole his Bitcoins, when in fact it was Carl Mark Force that did it.
2. I understand there were a number of occasions the SR dealers, being anon but knowing the buyer address, would blackmail the buyer after purchase.

It wasn't a perfect system.

[QuestionAuthority]

Back on topic. Two things.

1. DPR was prepared to have Green executed because he stole his Bitcoins, when in fact it was Carl Mark Force that did it.
2. I understand there were a number of occasions the SR dealers, being anon but knowing the buyer address, would blackmail the buyer after purchase.

It wasn't a perfect system.

But did the punishment fit the crime?

Some reference material:

http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/crime/2015/01/29/nashville-drug-lord-sentenced-years/22538011/

http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/08/world/americas/jamaica-drug-lord-sentenced/

http://abc7.com/news/us-judge-sentences-cartel-lieutenant-to-22-years/409945/

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/08/20/notorious-mexican-drug-lord-sentenced-to-15-years-in-u-s-prison-see-what-hes-accused-of-doing/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2549559/Drug-dealer-44-spent-millions-luxury-cars-designer-clothes-lavish-getaways-sentenced-25-years-trafficking-TON-cocaine.html

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/jun/08/christopher-dudus-coke-jail-term

What it amounts to is he was used as an example for any future online drug kingpins. The lesson learned is that it's better to just murder and deal drugs in person because the sentence is much less severe.

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

Back on topic. Two things.

1. DPR was prepared to have Green executed because he stole his Bitcoins, when in fact it was Carl Mark Force that did it.
2. I understand there were a number of occasions the SR dealers, being anon but knowing the buyer address, would blackmail the buyer after purchase.

It wasn't a perfect system.

But did the punishment fit the crime?

Some reference material:

http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/crime/2015/01/29/nashville-drug-lord-sentenced-years/22538011/

http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/08/world/americas/jamaica-drug-lord-sentenced/

http://abc7.com/news/us-judge-sentences-cartel-lieutenant-to-22-years/409945/

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/08/20/notorious-mexican-drug-lord-sentenced-to-15-years-in-u-s-prison-see-what-hes-accused-of-doing/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2549559/Drug-dealer-44-spent-millions-luxury-cars-designer-clothes-lavish-getaways-sentenced-25-years-trafficking-TON-cocaine.html

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/jun/08/christopher-dudus-coke-jail-term

What it amounts to is he was used as an example for any future online drug kingpins. The lesson learned is that it's better to just murder and deal drugs in person because the sentence is much less severe.

No. Life without parole in a maximum security prison is a scandal.

[bryant.coleman]

Back on topic. Two things.

1. DPR was prepared to have Green executed because he stole his Bitcoins, when in fact it was Carl Mark Force that did it.
2. I understand there were a number of occasions the SR dealers, being anon but knowing the buyer address, would blackmail the buyer after purchase.

It wasn't a perfect system.

There is not enough evidence for #1. The FBI have presented some cooked up email records and online chats as evidence. But in my opinion, none of these evidences are trustworthy.

Yes. #2 was a big issue. But it is not the fault of Ross Ullbricht.

[Biomech]

But in their view it doesn't matter what they do to those filthy heathens overseas. Ross allowed drugs to be sold to purebred whitie children in college at home and without paying any tax. I'm surprised he wasn't just called a terrorist and taken straight to gitmo without a trial.

Most of the 2 million Russians, who died as a result of the NATO-sponsored heroin trafficking to Russia were white as well. So this has nothing to do with race. The Americans wanted to destroy the younger generations in Russia and Iran, and that's why we are having the NATO actively engaging in the Afghan opium poppy cultivation.

Yes, but that quote is damn near exactly how the sons of bitches SELL this stupidity to the American public. We are, despite what it often seems, a very insular society. Do not mistake the actions of the United States of America for the will of it's slaves. Most of us don't like, or trust our rulers. But most of us are complacent, and afraid. The country that I grew up in does not exist anymore. It's now a police state very similar to Germany just before the ascent of the Nazi party to ultimate power. There is more wealth, and the nationalism is less targeted (slightly), but it's very similar.

And fuck Godwin, this is reality.