Send a noob 0.00000001 BTC? What info do I need to provide?

[TonyT]

I am experimenting with Armory (I know, I know), and I wish somebody to send me 0.00000001 BTC (apparently the smallest unit).  What information do you need from me?  I promise to send it back to you if you want me to.

Thanks,

TonyT

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[PotatoPie]

I am experimenting with Armory (I know, I know), and I wish somebody to send me 0.00000001 BTC (apparently the smallest unit).  What information do you need from me?  I promise to send it back to you if you want me to.

Thanks,

TonyT

All we would need is your wallet address.

[BigBill]

I am experimenting with Armory (I know, I know), and I wish somebody to send me 0.00000001 BTC (apparently the smallest unit).  What information do you need from me?  I promise to send it back to you if you want me to.

Thanks,

TonyT

Just address. Try some faucet for some kind of small amount.
I can give you some on PM if you want.

[BigBoy89]

hard to get confirmed if i send you 0.0000001 BTC
minimum amount that recommended by network is 0.0001 BTC (+ 0.0001 more for networks fee)
if you want try that, i can send it. just post your address here

[deepceleron]

Here's a private key with 0.00001 BTC on it, no fee required to import it, but also not enough money to send it anywhere.

addr: 19bjqNiSWxMuCcbzcszS37BJfNMKLA7vh1
priv: L3Upbvtaij1xMmG2iXTokSgguAPy3c4fnR81xFcUKc2263hapovb

[TonyT]

Just address. Try some faucet for some kind of small amount.
I can give you some on PM if you want.

OK thanks!  I am downloading the 50 GB blockchain (I think that's what it is) on Armory and as soon as I am done, I can receive and/or send bitcoin and will publish a bitcoin address. 

What is 'faucet'? Oh, I see...it was a free bitcoin offering by one of the founders of bitcoin.

TonyT

[TonyT]

Here's a private key with 0.00001 BTC on it, no fee required to import it, but also not enough money to send it anywhere.

addr: 19bjqNiSWxMuCcbzcszS37BJfNMKLA7vh1
priv: L3Upbvtaij1xMmG2iXTokSgguAPy3c4fnR81xFcUKc2263hapovb

Ah, thanks, this is very informative and actually relates to a question I was going to ask in another thread but I might as well ask it here:  a private key is often associated with money, like a ordered pair in a dictionary, yes?  Meaning, you have a private key in your bitcoin digital wallet, known only to you, with an amount in bitcoin next to it:  private key <---> value in bitcoin.  So if you lose your private keys, you lose your money, because each private key has a bitcoin value associated with it (the value could be zero if the key has not been used in a transaction I suppose).  That's why you should backup your wallet (unless you use a 'deterministic' wallet, where if you know the root key it will automatically generate all the other keys, then you can use the 'blockchain' to construct how much value each private key has, I think somewhat that's correct)?

Is this somewhat correct?

TonyT

[TonyT]

hard to get confirmed if i send you 0.0000001 BTC
minimum amount that recommended by network is 0.0001 BTC (+ 0.0001 more for networks fee)
if you want try that, i can send it. just post your address here

What?! What?  There is an automatic network fee?  Oh, you mean when a miner solves some puzzle, they get a fee, aka mining bitcoins?  I know this part, but you imply something else.  But I can still send 0.0000001 BTC, no?  You mean bitcoin nodes in the network will refuse to process this transaction?  How?  That would break some sort of bitcoin unwritten or written rule, no?  How would it be enforced?  This is all very strange and seems contrary to the spirit of bitcoin?

TonyT

[Update:  I saw how this works:  if you specify a small fee to be paid to the network, your transaction is verified faster, otherwise, it will drop to the end of the queue and there's no telling when your transaction will be verified.  The default transaction fee amount can be set in your wallet, like Armory that I use.]

[deepceleron]

Bitcoin has limits written in its code that are for the good of the network. Sending payments that are worth less than 1/3 of the fee is a non-standard transaction, fees are required for most transactions, and are based on data size. These are for the good of the network and the people that participate in it by running the Bitcoin client.

Being part of the Bitcoin network by running a full client also means that you must have a complete record of every historical transaction downloaded. It means that you can be flooded by spam transaction on the network that you then must not forward to multiply the attack.

Bitcoin is a consensus system, and the rules about fees are up to the individual clients to honor. There are still some miners that will include the dust transactions, so it is still possible to send someone annoying dust that costs far more in data consumption and network fees than its value.

I've got a link in my sig, something along the line of "how Bitcoin works", which should be just about the right size to read and comprehend.

[odolvlobo]

Tony,

The "dust limit" is 5460 satoshis (0.00005460 BTC). Dealing with amounts below the dust limit is difficult.

If you want a small amount of BTC, the easiest and fastest way to get it is to buy it from Coinbase, Circle, or LocalBitcoins.com. Begging for BTC will only get you scorn.

[TonyT]

Tony,

The "dust limit" is 5460 satoshis (0.00005460 BTC). Dealing with amounts below the dust limit is difficult.

If you want a small amount of BTC, the easiest and fastest way to get it is to buy it from Coinbase, Circle, or LocalBitcoins.com. Begging for BTC will only get you scorn.

Sending dust is difficult?  Or impossible?  Since now that you mention it, it would be a wicked way to gum up the works with the blockchain.

The reason I am begging is that I have not decided the best way to buy bitcoin anonymously (I have another thread started on this).

Thanks,

TonyT

[FakeAccount]

Tony,

The "dust limit" is 5460 satoshis (0.00005460 BTC). Dealing with amounts below the dust limit is difficult.

If you want a small amount of BTC, the easiest and fastest way to get it is to buy it from Coinbase, Circle, or LocalBitcoins.com. Begging for BTC will only get you scorn.

If it's difficult, how was the address above able to get the .00001?  If you wait a long time would it go through eventually?

[Bonam]

Tony,

The "dust limit" is 5460 satoshis (0.00005460 BTC). Dealing with amounts below the dust limit is difficult.

If you want a small amount of BTC, the easiest and fastest way to get it is to buy it from Coinbase, Circle, or LocalBitcoins.com. Begging for BTC will only get you scorn.

If it's difficult, how was the address above able to get the .00001?  If you wait a long time would it go through eventually?

Easy. Send 1 BTC to an address. Send 0.99999 BTC (minus transaction fee) out. You're left with 0.00001.

[TonyT]

hard to get confirmed if i send you 0.0000001 BTC
minimum amount that recommended by network is 0.0001 BTC (+ 0.0001 more for networks fee)
if you want try that, i can send it. just post your address here

Thanks BigBoy, I finally (after 44 hours!) got Armory up and running.

Can you kindly send me the 0.0002 BTC (which at market rates is larger than I thought, around 8 cents US) to this public Bitcoin address please?

135D1oL8Ud6cCJZaSZ34pU2qrpC81xPQTi

I appreciate it, and will return it someday to  you with interest (as soon as I buy some bitcoin!  I need to get verified first).

TonyT

[DhaniBoy]

you need only need to store the bitcoin wallet that you collect, then you just visit the website that provides free bitcoin, and or you follow the forums as bitcointalk.org sig.campaign follow so that you will be paid monthly, weekly or even perpostingan, hopefully you just get a lot of bitcoin in your wallet ... 

[TonyT]

you need only need to store the bitcoin wallet that you collect, then you just visit the website that provides free bitcoin, and or you follow the forums as bitcointalk.org sig.campaign follow so that you will be paid monthly, weekly or even perpostingan, hopefully you just get a lot of bitcoin in your wallet ... 

That sounds cool!  How much can you make in a year, probably maybe a half BTC?  My reason however is more immediate:  I need some small bitcoin so I can play around with sending and receiving it on Armory and some online wallets I have set up.  I have ordered bitcoin but it will take a week to get here.  Oh well...I just have to wait I guess.

[deepceleron]

I need some small bitcoin so I can play around with sending and receiving it on Armory and some online wallets I have set up.

Testnet. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=341252.0

[Simon8x]

Tony,

The "dust limit" is 5460 satoshis (0.00005460 BTC). Dealing with amounts below the dust limit is difficult.

If you want a small amount of BTC, the easiest and fastest way to get it is to buy it from Coinbase, Circle, or LocalBitcoins.com. Begging for BTC will only get you scorn.

Wasn't the dust limit lowered to just 546 satoshi when the minimum relay fee dropped?

https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/src/core.h

Code:

bool IsDust(CFeeRate minRelayTxFee) const
{
// "Dust" is defined in terms of CTransaction::minRelayTxFee,
// which has units satoshis-per-kilobyte.
// If you'd pay more than 1/3 in fees
// to spend something, then we consider it dust.
// A typical txout is 34 bytes big, and will
// need a CTxIn of at least 148 bytes to spend:
// so dust is a txout less than 546 satoshis
// with default minRelayTxFee.
size_t nSize = GetSerializeSize(SER_DISK,0)+148u;
return (nValue < 3*minRelayTxFee.GetFee(nSize));
}

[jjacob]

Here's a private key with 0.00001 BTC on it, no fee required to import it, but also not enough money to send it anywhere.

addr: 19bjqNiSWxMuCcbzcszS37BJfNMKLA7vh1
priv: L3Upbvtaij1xMmG2iXTokSgguAPy3c4fnR81xFcUKc2263hapovb

It seems to have been cleared out as soon as you posted it. 

[deepceleron]

Here's a private key with 0.00001 BTC on it, no fee required to import it, but also not enough money to send it anywhere.

addr: 19bjqNiSWxMuCcbzcszS37BJfNMKLA7vh1
priv: L3Upbvtaij1xMmG2iXTokSgguAPy3c4fnR81xFcUKc2263hapovb

It seems to have been cleared out as soon as you posted it.  

Here's a transaction fee's worth of private keys with 0.00001 BTC on each then. As long they are going to be spent, I've got 1500+ more...

L4JyPUuq1qcokcunDvZcQceU...

edit: all gone!

[TonyT]

Here's a transaction fee's worth of private keys with 0.00001 BTC on each then. As long they are going to be spent, I've got 1500+ more...

L4JyPUuq1qcokcunDvZcQceU51UjwHwJjEz3GMVmEjzPLQZWhK18
L2EVNG16Srurcze6uiVrBu8Mp6QEGUhq3NjdG3dp14yUyxBPRKKP

How , what , who, What?  How you dat?  What dat?  I thought you only are supposed to post public keys, so called "bitcom addresses"?  Then people send you BTC to this bitcom address, I guess signing it with your public key, and only you can decrypt it and spend the BTC sent.  If I import these private keys, doesn't that mean somebody can also import these private keys, spend them first, and thus double spend this amount, and I will be left with nothing?  This stuff is confusing, just when I thought I understood Bitcoin...

[odolvlobo]

Here's a transaction fee's worth of private keys with 0.00001 BTC on each then. As long they are going to be spent, I've got 1500+ more...

L4JyPUuq1qcokcunDvZcQceU51UjwHwJjEz3GMVmEjzPLQZWhK18
L2EVNG16Srurcze6uiVrBu8Mp6QEGUhq3NjdG3dp14yUyxBPRKKP

How , what , who, What?  How you dat?  What dat?  I thought you only are supposed to post public keys, so called "bitcom addresses"?  Then people send you BTC to this bitcom address, I guess signing it with your public key, and only you can decrypt it and spend the BTC sent.  If I import these private keys, doesn't that mean somebody can also import these private keys, spend them first, and thus double spend this amount, and I will be left with nothing?  This stuff is confusing, just when I thought I understood Bitcoin...

You understand correctly. He is publishing the private keys so that anyone can spend the bitcoins they contain. Unfortunately, the cost of sending the coins is greater than the value of the coins.

I'm curious why deepceleron has so many of these addresses.

[TonyT]

You understand correctly. He is publishing the private keys so that anyone can spend the bitcoins they contain. Unfortunately, the cost of sending the coins is greater than the value of the coins.

I'm curious why deepceleron has so many of these addresses.

can you combine private keys in your wallet?  If you have 1500 small BTC amounts, can you combine them to make one big BTC amount?  I am using Armory wallet, not online.

[Argwai96]

Here's a transaction fee's worth of private keys with 0.00001 BTC on each then. As long they are going to be spent, I've got 1500+ more...

L4JyPUuq1qcokcunDvZcQceU51UjwHwJjEz3GMVmEjzPLQZWhK18
L2EVNG16Srurcze6uiVrBu8Mp6QEGUhq3NjdG3dp14yUyxBPRKKP

How , what , who, What?  How you dat?  What dat?  I thought you only are supposed to post public keys, so called "bitcom addresses"?  Then people send you BTC to this bitcom address, I guess signing it with your public key, and only you can decrypt it and spend the BTC sent.  If I import these private keys, doesn't that mean somebody can also import these private keys, spend them first, and thus double spend this amount, and I will be left with nothing?  This stuff is confusing, just when I thought I understood Bitcoin...

You understand correctly. He is publishing the private keys so that anyone can spend the bitcoins they contain. Unfortunately, the cost of sending the coins is greater than the value of the coins.

I'm curious why deepceleron has so many of these addresses.

Upon review of all the private keys he has published, it appears that only the first one has any unspent inputs, and when trying to spend such input, it appears that the nodes will not even accept a TX that is only spending the inputs from the one address.

[deepceleron]

I had 1600 of these payments by gaming one of the blockchain-spamming bots into sending me btc. I finally decided to consolidate all the payments after revisiting my files full of them, which wasn't too hard, miners were happy to take them with 0.00001 BTC fee per kB, in various transactions from 10k to 100k, which resulted in a final fee of about 20%.

Somebody else attempted to spend one by itself which is likely to never confirm, so I'll double-spend it. It needed to be spent by someone, otherwise the whole transaction which sent it (along with hundreds of other payments the spammer sent) will be unprunable from the blockchain.

The others are spent now.

Posting a private key is like giving the ability to spend the money away to anybody. Addresses should not be reused anyway, so it doesn't matter as long as you know what you are doing.

[jjacob]

Here's a private key with 0.00001 BTC on it, no fee required to import it, but also not enough money to send it anywhere.

addr: 19bjqNiSWxMuCcbzcszS37BJfNMKLA7vh1
priv: L3Upbvtaij1xMmG2iXTokSgguAPy3c4fnR81xFcUKc2263hapovb

It seems to have been cleared out as soon as you posted it.  

Here's a transaction fee's worth of private keys with 0.00001 BTC on each then. As long they are going to be spent, I've got 1500+ more...

L4JyPUuq1qcokcunDvZcQceU...

edit: all gone!

Gone again before I could see them. 

[TonyT]

Posting a private key is like giving the ability to spend the money away to anybody. Addresses should not be reused anyway, so it doesn't matter as long as you know what you are doing.

I did not follow what you said since I'm just a noob.  Put your creative mind to it:  is there any way we can use such "dust" to confuse the blockchain and/or double spend?  If so, it's a security breach that the BTC community must be made aware of!

[Muhammed Zakir]

Posting a private key is like giving the ability to spend the money away to anybody. Addresses should not be reused anyway, so it doesn't matter as long as you know what you are doing.

I did not follow what you said since I'm just a noob.  Put your creative mind to it:  is there any way we can use such "dust" to confuse the blockchain and/or double spend?  If so, it's a security breach that the BTC community must be made aware of!

What do you mean by "confuse blockchain"?

   ~~MZ~~

[gregheflee]

Here's a private key with 0.00001 BTC on it, no fee required to import it, but also not enough money to send it anywhere.

addr: 19bjqNiSWxMuCcbzcszS37BJfNMKLA7vh1
priv: L3Upbvtaij1xMmG2iXTokSgguAPy3c4fnR81xFcUKc2263hapovb

It seems to have been cleared out as soon as you posted it.  

Be very careful in dealing things like this.

[TonyT]

Here's a private key with 0.00001 BTC on it, no fee required to import it, but also not enough money to send it anywhere.

addr: 19bjqNiSWxMuCcbzcszS37BJfNMKLA7vh1
priv: L3Upbvtaij1xMmG2iXTokSgguAPy3c4fnR81xFcUKc2263hapovb

It seems to have been cleared out as soon as you posted it.  

Be very careful in dealing things like this.

Why be careful?  I speculate here (I am a BTC newbie):  maybe if you import a private key, then add money to the same private key, the first person who sent you the private key can then "spend" your BTC money before you do?  I am not saying that's what is happening here, I'm just trying to figure out why one should be careful.

[deepceleron]

Here's a private key with 0.00001 BTC on it, no fee required to import it, but also not enough money to send it anywhere.

addr: 19bjqNiSWxMuCcbzcszS37BJfNMKLA7vh1
priv: L3Upbvtaij1xMmG2iXTokSgguAPy3c4fnR81xFcUKc2263hapovb

It seems to have been cleared out as soon as you posted it.  

Be very careful in dealing things like this.

You do not need be careful because the person posting it needs to be trustworthy, you only need to be mindful not to accidentally reuse the address. After importing, Bitcoin Core will not give you this address when you use "request a payment", but you could do something silly like look through your list of past transactions and take the address from there when you ask someone to send you money. I never underestimate the ingeniousness of idiots.

Even for dust, someone will quickly snatch up and spend private keys I've posted before with a balance for fun. It's first-come, first-serve, since anybody can use the secret key to spend the money.

[07Ghost]

You noob. Even newbie like me won't post my private key. Do some research and read tutorial on other sites first.

[deepceleron]

You noob. Even newbie like me won't post my private key. Do some research and read tutorial on other sites first.

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oh noes I just posted private keys because I'm a noooob..

edit: even worse, I just sent money to the first one, heavens me!

[Kakmakr]

Use a faucet, with a low withdraw limit.

Or is this a way to get extra income. ^joke^ Even if every member on the forum send you 0.00000001 Satoshi, you would still be poor. ^laugh^

[TonyT]

Use a faucet, with a low withdraw limit.

Or is this a way to get extra income. ^joke^ Even if every member on the forum send you 0.00000001 Satoshi, you would still be poor. ^laugh^

Where is a faucet?  Can you send me some bitcoin please?  A small amount?  I need it to experiment with.  The bitcoin I ordered is not yet here.  I will send it back to you.  Just send me enough to have a "round trip" from you to me and back to you.  My Bitcoin address is 135D1oL8Ud6cCJZaSZ34pU2qrpC81xPQTi 

Thanks!

[pooya87]

You noob. Even newbie like me won't post my private key. Do some research and read tutorial on other sites first.

1BTeQw63egu3 (snip snip) wsg24sS

oh noes I just posted private keys because I'm a noooob..

edit: even worse, I just sent money to the first one, heavens me!

i am so confused why you create so many addresses and post them here and with their private keys
p.s: if you want to throw away 0.0002 BTCs try giveaways or tipping on places like Reddit

[Mobius7]

Use a faucet, with a low withdraw limit.

Or is this a way to get extra income. ^joke^ Even if every member on the forum send you 0.00000001 Satoshi, you would still be poor. ^laugh^

Where is a faucet?  Can you send me some bitcoin please?  A small amount?  I need it to experiment with.  The bitcoin I ordered is not yet here.
Thanks!

If you just want to have a small amount of bitcoin for testing, just go to http://www.landofbitcoin.com/microwallet-faucets and solve those captchas. You should be able to receive a very small amount of bitcoin within days.