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October 18, 2014, 01:19:33 PM
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Here's a transaction fee's worth of private keys with 0.00001 BTC on each then. As long they are going to be spent, I've got 1500+ more...

L4JyPUuq1qcokcunDvZcQceU51UjwHwJjEz3GMVmEjzPLQZWhK18
L2EVNG16Srurcze6uiVrBu8Mp6QEGUhq3NjdG3dp14yUyxBPRKKP

How , what , who, What?  How you dat?  What dat?  I thought you only are supposed to post public keys, so called "bitcom addresses"?  Then people send you BTC to this bitcom address, I guess signing it with your public key, and only you can decrypt it and spend the BTC sent.  If I import these private keys, doesn't that mean somebody can also import these private keys, spend them first, and thus double spend this amount, and I will be left with nothing?  This stuff is confusing, just when I thought I understood Bitcoin...

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October 18, 2014, 01:29:34 PM
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Here's a transaction fee's worth of private keys with 0.00001 BTC on each then. As long they are going to be spent, I've got 1500+ more...

L4JyPUuq1qcokcunDvZcQceU51UjwHwJjEz3GMVmEjzPLQZWhK18
L2EVNG16Srurcze6uiVrBu8Mp6QEGUhq3NjdG3dp14yUyxBPRKKP

How , what , who, What?  How you dat?  What dat?  I thought you only are supposed to post public keys, so called "bitcom addresses"?  Then people send you BTC to this bitcom address, I guess signing it with your public key, and only you can decrypt it and spend the BTC sent.  If I import these private keys, doesn't that mean somebody can also import these private keys, spend them first, and thus double spend this amount, and I will be left with nothing?  This stuff is confusing, just when I thought I understood Bitcoin...

You understand correctly. He is publishing the private keys so that anyone can spend the bitcoins they contain. Unfortunately, the cost of sending the coins is greater than the value of the coins.

I'm curious why deepceleron has so many of these addresses.

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October 18, 2014, 01:49:16 PM
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You understand correctly. He is publishing the private keys so that anyone can spend the bitcoins they contain. Unfortunately, the cost of sending the coins is greater than the value of the coins.

I'm curious why deepceleron has so many of these addresses.

can you combine private keys in your wallet?  If you have 1500 small BTC amounts, can you combine them to make one big BTC amount?  I am using Armory wallet, not online.

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October 18, 2014, 01:58:35 PM
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Here's a transaction fee's worth of private keys with 0.00001 BTC on each then. As long they are going to be spent, I've got 1500+ more...

L4JyPUuq1qcokcunDvZcQceU51UjwHwJjEz3GMVmEjzPLQZWhK18
L2EVNG16Srurcze6uiVrBu8Mp6QEGUhq3NjdG3dp14yUyxBPRKKP

How , what , who, What?  How you dat?  What dat?  I thought you only are supposed to post public keys, so called "bitcom addresses"?  Then people send you BTC to this bitcom address, I guess signing it with your public key, and only you can decrypt it and spend the BTC sent.  If I import these private keys, doesn't that mean somebody can also import these private keys, spend them first, and thus double spend this amount, and I will be left with nothing?  This stuff is confusing, just when I thought I understood Bitcoin...

You understand correctly. He is publishing the private keys so that anyone can spend the bitcoins they contain. Unfortunately, the cost of sending the coins is greater than the value of the coins.

I'm curious why deepceleron has so many of these addresses.
Upon review of all the private keys he has published, it appears that only the first one has any unspent inputs, and when trying to spend such input, it appears that the nodes will not even accept a TX that is only spending the inputs from the one address.
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October 18, 2014, 03:50:08 PM
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I had 1600 of these payments by gaming one of the blockchain-spamming bots into sending me btc. I finally decided to consolidate all the payments after revisiting my files full of them, which wasn't too hard, miners were happy to take them with 0.00001 BTC fee per kB, in various transactions from 10k to 100k, which resulted in a final fee of about 20%.

Somebody else attempted to spend one by itself which is likely to never confirm, so I'll double-spend it. It needed to be spent by someone, otherwise the whole transaction which sent it (along with hundreds of other payments the spammer sent) will be unprunable from the blockchain.

The others are spent now.

Posting a private key is like giving the ability to spend the money away to anybody. Addresses should not be reused anyway, so it doesn't matter as long as you know what you are doing.
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October 19, 2014, 01:11:25 AM
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Here's a private key with 0.00001 BTC on it, no fee required to import it, but also not enough money to send it anywhere.

addr: 19bjqNiSWxMuCcbzcszS37BJfNMKLA7vh1
priv: L3Upbvtaij1xMmG2iXTokSgguAPy3c4fnR81xFcUKc2263hapovb

It seems to have been cleared out as soon as you posted it.  Grin

Here's a transaction fee's worth of private keys with 0.00001 BTC on each then. As long they are going to be spent, I've got 1500+ more...

L4JyPUuq1qcokcunDvZcQceU...

edit: all gone!

Gone again before I could see them.  Grin


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October 19, 2014, 07:29:21 AM
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Posting a private key is like giving the ability to spend the money away to anybody. Addresses should not be reused anyway, so it doesn't matter as long as you know what you are doing.

I did not follow what you said since I'm just a noob.  Put your creative mind to it:  is there any way we can use such "dust" to confuse the blockchain and/or double spend?  If so, it's a security breach that the BTC community must be made aware of!

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October 19, 2014, 10:58:17 AM
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Posting a private key is like giving the ability to spend the money away to anybody. Addresses should not be reused anyway, so it doesn't matter as long as you know what you are doing.

I did not follow what you said since I'm just a noob.  Put your creative mind to it:  is there any way we can use such "dust" to confuse the blockchain and/or double spend?  If so, it's a security breach that the BTC community must be made aware of!

What do you mean by "confuse blockchain"? Huh

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October 20, 2014, 01:03:53 AM
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Here's a private key with 0.00001 BTC on it, no fee required to import it, but also not enough money to send it anywhere.

addr: 19bjqNiSWxMuCcbzcszS37BJfNMKLA7vh1
priv: L3Upbvtaij1xMmG2iXTokSgguAPy3c4fnR81xFcUKc2263hapovb

It seems to have been cleared out as soon as you posted it.  Grin

Be very careful in dealing things like this.
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October 20, 2014, 01:15:53 AM
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Here's a private key with 0.00001 BTC on it, no fee required to import it, but also not enough money to send it anywhere.

addr: 19bjqNiSWxMuCcbzcszS37BJfNMKLA7vh1
priv: L3Upbvtaij1xMmG2iXTokSgguAPy3c4fnR81xFcUKc2263hapovb

It seems to have been cleared out as soon as you posted it.  Grin

Be very careful in dealing things like this.

Why be careful?  I speculate here (I am a BTC newbie):  maybe if you import a private key, then add money to the same private key, the first person who sent you the private key can then "spend" your BTC money before you do?  I am not saying that's what is happening here, I'm just trying to figure out why one should be careful.

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October 20, 2014, 08:56:20 AM
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Here's a private key with 0.00001 BTC on it, no fee required to import it, but also not enough money to send it anywhere.

addr: 19bjqNiSWxMuCcbzcszS37BJfNMKLA7vh1
priv: L3Upbvtaij1xMmG2iXTokSgguAPy3c4fnR81xFcUKc2263hapovb

It seems to have been cleared out as soon as you posted it.  Grin

Be very careful in dealing things like this.

You do not need be careful because the person posting it needs to be trustworthy, you only need to be mindful not to accidentally reuse the address. After importing, Bitcoin Core will not give you this address when you use "request a payment", but you could do something silly like look through your list of past transactions and take the address from there when you ask someone to send you money. I never underestimate the ingeniousness of idiots.

Even for dust, someone will quickly snatch up and spend private keys I've posted before with a balance for fun. It's first-come, first-serve, since anybody can use the secret key to spend the money.
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October 20, 2014, 09:02:14 AM
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You noob. Even newbie like me won't post my private key. Do some research and read tutorial on other sites first.
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October 20, 2014, 09:14:00 AM
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You noob. Even newbie like me won't post my private key. Do some research and read tutorial on other sites first.

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oh noes I just posted private keys because I'm a noooob..

edit: even worse, I just sent money to the first one, heavens me!
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October 23, 2014, 05:46:09 AM
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Use a faucet, with a low withdraw limit.

Or is this a way to get extra income. ^joke^ Even if every member on the forum send you 0.00000001 Satoshi, you would still be poor. ^laugh^

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October 23, 2014, 05:56:48 AM
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Use a faucet, with a low withdraw limit.

Or is this a way to get extra income. ^joke^ Even if every member on the forum send you 0.00000001 Satoshi, you would still be poor. ^laugh^

Where is a faucet?  Can you send me some bitcoin please?  A small amount?  I need it to experiment with.  The bitcoin I ordered is not yet here.  I will send it back to you.  Just send me enough to have a "round trip" from you to me and back to you.  My Bitcoin address is 135D1oL8Ud6cCJZaSZ34pU2qrpC81xPQTi 

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October 23, 2014, 08:02:14 AM
 #36

You noob. Even newbie like me won't post my private key. Do some research and read tutorial on other sites first.

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oh noes I just posted private keys because I'm a noooob..

edit: even worse, I just sent money to the first one, heavens me!
i am so confused why you create so many addresses and post them here Cheesy and with their private keys
p.s: if you want to throw away 0.0002 BTCs Wink try giveaways or tipping on places like Reddit

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October 23, 2014, 10:42:03 AM
 #37

Use a faucet, with a low withdraw limit.

Or is this a way to get extra income. ^joke^ Even if every member on the forum send you 0.00000001 Satoshi, you would still be poor. ^laugh^

Where is a faucet?  Can you send me some bitcoin please?  A small amount?  I need it to experiment with.  The bitcoin I ordered is not yet here.
Thanks!

If you just want to have a small amount of bitcoin for testing, just go to http://www.landofbitcoin.com/microwallet-faucets and solve those captchas. You should be able to receive a very small amount of bitcoin within days.

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