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Author Topic: [ANN][CLOAK] Private, Secure, Untraceable & Decentralized Digital Currency  (Read 810720 times)
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September 21, 2016, 06:14:19 AM
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nothing bad with cloak just wee need awareness i mean marketing and volume and polo and we are ok

nothing more Cheesy Half is possible, volume... On dump Cheesy
lets see how the project will move forward cloak still have supports so theres still possible to rise it up.
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September 21, 2016, 06:28:08 AM
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Here's what the team needs to do

1) Launch a new road map of things to expect
2) Communicate more frequently. Keep us posted and updated. The silence is deafening. Do you care about your supporters? It seems like you are neglecting us, Cashmen.
3) Hire and make new partnerships. This coin needs more marketing and public awareness. You have to describe and communicate the vision of the PoSA. How it works, what it does and why should we care.


Here is what you guys are doing
1) Lulz...we name change to One market
2) 1 month later, lulz we fucked up....now we cloakcoin again
3) present day...no more communication....
....maybe 1 month later...lulz...we change back to one market.

You guys are a mess. It's pathetic.

One Market?
You mean Project One...

Cloak team will start a complete new Project with One and let Cloakcoin alive!!!
Every Cloak holder has also the opportunity to swap later the coins to One.

I am sure, Cloak team will do something to succeed.


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September 21, 2016, 06:56:45 AM
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nothing bad with cloak just wee need awareness i mean marketing and volume and polo and we are ok

nothing more Cheesy Half is possible, volume... On dump Cheesy

If you not noticed someone dumped cloak from months all this time

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September 21, 2016, 08:37:49 AM
Last edit: September 21, 2016, 01:04:15 PM by Ratatosk
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Just fyi:

Monero was copy from bytecoin.
shadowcoin was copy from blackcoin & later monero

So you are wrong. Crypto is copy cat world!

I know Monero is Cryptonote based (natively including ring signatures), very improved and with new features later and still now.
I know Shadowcash is a merge of Bitcoin base and ring signatures system taken from Cryptonote.
I know Cloakcoin is Bitcoin base + Coinjoin code configured to use random nodes, + Onion routing (taken from Tor ?)

What I wanted to say, is, once your cryptography, technology, system and code are innovative, improved, complex, huge... there is no interrest for somebody or a band of people to clone this coin. Too much work to understand it perfectly, modify a little bit to say it's different and new (and still working...), and impossible to reach the community level power of the original opensource coin that they copied. Each dev team and community of the original opensource coins will always understand better and control better and improve better and faster their sourcecode and be a step forward of those who copy and have not the same experience, skills and community. It's why Monero and Shadowcash are not copied now. The smartest way to get benefits of their code is to join the project, help it and get money in return, instead of wasting time, money energy to make a pale copy always a step behind the strong original.

Of course, there is always a risk. But if the secret code of Cloak is so fantastic, I don't know what you are afraid of. And a lot of people could help to find and fix the bugs and flaws, instead of one dev (yes, statistically there ARE such many unfound bugs).

A this stage, nothing to lose, much to win. Other coin are opensource and prosper from community contribution, without being copied. Of course, it's not compatible with dictatorship.

And, it's the beauty of opensource, we could even dream that a new Cloak contributor could merge a system like opensource InstantX from Dash or Zerotime from VCash (Vanillacoin) into Cloak, and it would definitively be a terrific coin.

Of course, all this is supposing that Cloak's Bitcoin+nodelessCoinjoin+Onion is really a anon system as great and revolutionnary as everybody says (but nobody in public is able to verify that because of closed source, so, no interrest in Cloak). The original Coinjoin has flaws in privacy and anonymity. If the improved nodeless Coinjoin by Cloak dev + Onion is a combination proven to be really innovative and secure, and with new original code, you should no worry to be copied, like I said above. You'll attract people, who will help Cloak, success, without copying. Better to get onboard the train than re-inventing the wheel from zero...
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September 21, 2016, 09:07:48 AM
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livecoin exchange just look time wasting exchange so much manipulation price even there no buy orders and sell orders why cloak add there?Huh?
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September 21, 2016, 09:44:16 AM
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livecoin exchange just look time wasting exchange so much manipulation price even there no buy orders and sell orders why cloak add there?Huh?

let's imagine that bittrex delisted cloak for example, yet we have livecoin, yobit, cryptopia and litebit

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September 21, 2016, 11:18:53 AM
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livecoin exchange just look time wasting exchange so much manipulation price even there no buy orders and sell orders why cloak add there?Huh?
thats a big problem if theres no traders that will play with cloak  it will hard for the coin to progress from that exchange.

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September 21, 2016, 11:49:20 AM
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livecoin exchange just look time wasting exchange so much manipulation price even there no buy orders and sell orders why cloak add there?Huh?
thats a big problem if theres no traders that will play with cloak  it will hard for the coin to progress from that exchange.

We have to set buy and sell orders on Livecoin!!!
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September 21, 2016, 04:46:36 PM
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Just fyi:

Monero was copy from bytecoin.
shadowcoin was copy from blackcoin & later monero

So you are wrong. Crypto is copy cat world!

I know Monero is Cryptonote based (natively including ring signatures), very improved and with new features later and still now.
I know Shadowcash is a merge of Bitcoin base and ring signatures system taken from Cryptonote.
I know Cloakcoin is Bitcoin base + Coinjoin code configured to use random nodes, + Onion routing (taken from Tor ?)

What I wanted to say, is, once your cryptography, technology, system and code are innovative, improved, complex, huge... there is no interrest for somebody or a band of people to clone this coin. Too much work to understand it perfectly, modify a little bit to say it's different and new (and still working...), and impossible to reach the community level power of the original opensource coin that they copied. Each dev team and community of the original opensource coins will always understand better and control better and improve better and faster their sourcecode and be a step forward of those who copy and have not the same experience, skills and community. It's why Monero and Shadowcash are not copied now. The smartest way to get benefits of their code is to join the project, help it and get money in return, instead of wasting time, money energy to make a pale copy always a step behind the strong original.

Of course, there is always a risk. But if the secret code of Cloak is so fantastic, I don't know what you are afraid of. And a lot of people could help to find and fix the bugs and flaws, instead of one dev (yes, statistically there ARE such many unfound bugs).

A this stage, nothing to lose, much to win. Other coin are opensource and prosper from community contribution, without being copied. Of course, it's not compatible with dictatorship.

And, it's the beauty of opensource, we could even dream that a new Cloak contributor could merge a system like opensource InstantX from Dash or Zerotime from VCash (Vanillacoin) into Cloak, and it would definitively be a terrific coin.

Of course, all this is supposing that Cloak's Bitcoin+nodelessCoinjoin+Onion is really a anon system as great and revolutionnary as everybody says (but nobody in public is able to verify that because of closed source, so, no interrest in Cloak). The original Coinjoin has flaws in privacy and anonymity. If the improved nodeless Coinjoin by Cloak dev + Onion is a combination proven to be really innovative and secure, and with new original code, you should no worry to be copied, like I said above. You'll attract people, who will help Cloak, success, without copying. Better to get onboard the train than re-inventing the wheel from zero...
I have been with the devs on the no open sourcing but this post has some very convincing arguments. I would think at this point open sourcing would be a major improvement.
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September 21, 2016, 08:39:26 PM
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Just fyi:

Monero was copy from bytecoin.
shadowcoin was copy from blackcoin & later monero

So you are wrong. Crypto is copy cat world!

I know Monero is Cryptonote based (natively including ring signatures), very improved and with new features later and still now.
I know Shadowcash is a merge of Bitcoin base and ring signatures system taken from Cryptonote.
I know Cloakcoin is Bitcoin base + Coinjoin code configured to use random nodes, + Onion routing (taken from Tor ?)

What I wanted to say, is, once your cryptography, technology, system and code are innovative, improved, complex, huge... there is no interrest for somebody or a band of people to clone this coin. Too much work to understand it perfectly, modify a little bit to say it's different and new (and still working...), and impossible to reach the community level power of the original opensource coin that they copied. Each dev team and community of the original opensource coins will always understand better and control better and improve better and faster their sourcecode and be a step forward of those who copy and have not the same experience, skills and community. It's why Monero and Shadowcash are not copied now. The smartest way to get benefits of their code is to join the project, help it and get money in return, instead of wasting time, money energy to make a pale copy always a step behind the strong original.

Of course, there is always a risk. But if the secret code of Cloak is so fantastic, I don't know what you are afraid of. And a lot of people could help to find and fix the bugs and flaws, instead of one dev (yes, statistically there ARE such many unfound bugs).

A this stage, nothing to lose, much to win. Other coin are opensource and prosper from community contribution, without being copied. Of course, it's not compatible with dictatorship.

And, it's the beauty of opensource, we could even dream that a new Cloak contributor could merge a system like opensource InstantX from Dash or Zerotime from VCash (Vanillacoin) into Cloak, and it would definitively be a terrific coin.

Of course, all this is supposing that Cloak's Bitcoin+nodelessCoinjoin+Onion is really a anon system as great and revolutionnary as everybody says (but nobody in public is able to verify that because of closed source, so, no interrest in Cloak). The original Coinjoin has flaws in privacy and anonymity. If the improved nodeless Coinjoin by Cloak dev + Onion is a combination proven to be really innovative and secure, and with new original code, you should no worry to be copied, like I said above. You'll attract people, who will help Cloak, success, without copying. Better to get onboard the train than re-inventing the wheel from zero...
I have been with the devs on the no open sourcing but this post has some very convincing arguments. I would think at this point open sourcing would be a major improvement.

Or, at least, give the code to Poloniex to get CLOAK listed. If it gets copied at least we know where it came from.

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September 21, 2016, 08:43:29 PM
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or maybe they could sign a non disclosure contract   ?

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September 22, 2016, 05:39:00 AM
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or maybe they could sign a non disclosure contract   ?

yes cloak team can find some these way and listed cloak in polo and other exchange also... we need good exchanges now because exchanges bring volume and awareness also and this also marketing way of success coin... cloak team so powerful with its work like posa3 release and graphics work and its explanation videos and animation video so professional work i can say that cloak team on the right way and looks very professional as compare Dash. why dash success just marketing and awareness and off course big so much big investors..
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September 22, 2016, 05:41:29 AM
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or maybe they could sign a non disclosure contract   ?

yes cloak team can find some these way and listed cloak in polo and other exchange also... we need good exchanges now because exchanges bring volume and awareness also and this also marketing way of success coin... cloak team so powerful with its work like posa3 release and graphics work and its explanation videos and animation video so professional work i can say that cloak team on the right way and looks very professional as compare Dash. why dash success just marketing and awareness and off course big so much big investors..
you are correct mate good advertisement and proper awareness about the project will bring the coin into success if polo will list cloak im sure traders will also join the project and it will make it more successful.
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September 22, 2016, 07:16:47 AM
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Can you tell me where to put the wallet backup file to reload it in the wallet?
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September 22, 2016, 07:49:02 AM
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Can you tell me where to put the wallet backup file to reload it in the wallet?
Which OS?

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September 22, 2016, 07:56:34 AM
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Can you tell me where to put the wallet backup file to reload it in the wallet?
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Windows 10
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September 22, 2016, 11:44:16 AM
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Can you tell me where to put the wallet backup file to reload it in the wallet?
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Windows 10
Allright, you should find it in "%appdata%\CloakCoin".

best regards!

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September 22, 2016, 11:55:30 AM
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Thank you  Smiley
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September 22, 2016, 09:38:20 PM
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PoSa 3.01023 and PoSA4.0 coming.
cloakmarket
cloak energy drink
cloak tv channel.
cloak to the moon.

Im cracking them cold wallets and going all in.

last warning!!!
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September 22, 2016, 09:59:20 PM
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PoSa 3.01023 and PoSA4.0 coming.
cloakmarket
cloak energy drink
cloak tv channel.
cloak to the moon.

Im cracking them cold wallets and going all in.

last warning!!!

Cloak comics soon! Next week! Grin
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