Bitcoin Forum
May 06, 2024, 01:47:58 AM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: [1] 2 »  All
  Print  
Author Topic: Is there anybody used Lakebtc darkpool trade?  (Read 2058 times)
jayjay00001 (OP)
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 13
Merit: 0


View Profile
October 15, 2014, 02:11:05 AM
 #1

Is there anybody used Lakebtc darkpool trade? How does it work and if it could  efficiently cut cost?
1714960078
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1714960078

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1714960078
Reply with quote  #2

1714960078
Report to moderator
1714960078
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1714960078

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1714960078
Reply with quote  #2

1714960078
Report to moderator
"You Asked For Change, We Gave You Coins" -- casascius
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction.
1714960078
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1714960078

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1714960078
Reply with quote  #2

1714960078
Report to moderator
1714960078
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1714960078

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1714960078
Reply with quote  #2

1714960078
Report to moderator
1714960078
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1714960078

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1714960078
Reply with quote  #2

1714960078
Report to moderator
Sophie.Greek
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 23
Merit: 0


View Profile
October 15, 2014, 02:40:24 AM
 #2

Quote
Minimum order size is 50 BTC. https://www.lakebtc.com/p/2472?locale=en

It requires threshold of BTC50 at least, my God, I just be a novice of Bitcoin, I did not have so much.
timtim363
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 5
Merit: 0


View Profile
October 15, 2014, 02:45:16 AM
 #3

They are a chinese exchange.
vigsun
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 30
Merit: 0


View Profile
October 15, 2014, 03:11:06 AM
 #4

I have used it, and I know LakeBTC just due to 'dark pool'. Shipping quietly, nobody knows anything, it's great feeling!
longder043
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1
Merit: 0


View Profile
October 15, 2014, 04:05:47 AM
 #5

can it effectively reduce the cost?

50BTC, it is too expensive to test it.
TinaK
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 1106
Merit: 527



View Profile
October 15, 2014, 06:37:13 AM
 #6

Traded on Lakebtc for a period of time, but I have not experienced darkpool yet...  Despite I think it actually is no different with your normal trading
GreenCoin22
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 547
Merit: 500



View Profile
October 15, 2014, 10:13:45 AM
 #7

Firstly, it cant decrease your actual cost, any bulk deal mean the cost of per unit will cut, this is nothing to do with darkpool.

And how it works? Each "dadrkpool" is different effect, which is a few bits and pieces with LakeBTC's darkpool I found on the Internet with gg

Quote
http://cointelegraph.com/news/112112/a-ban-should-target-risky-products-and-foul-players-not-bitcoin-itself-lakebtc-ceo-thomas-xie

CT: You have recently rolled out dark pool trading. Could you explain what this tool does and how it benefits users?

TX: From time to time we have users who come in and want to either buy or sell in large amounts, say 200 BTC. If you simply place an order like that it will obviously drive price up and down a lot. Besides, a public order-book is available to arbitragers, pro traders and predators. With advanced trading algorithms and strategies, they may take advantages of the information and affect trading price quickly. One way around this is hide your intention by splitting it to a number of smaller orders and spend hours or even days to spit out all these tiny orders.

Obviously not everybody can afford the trouble and time. Another method is dark pool. Note that our version of dark pool is not identical to the dark pools run by investment banks in equity market. Ours is more like invisible orders, which get executed with all other orders together. So dark pool orders still get matched with everybody else, but in a stealth way. You hide your intention and hopefully the market price will be less volatile and every investor, big or small, is happy.


Quote
http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-brokers-trade-millions-without-exchange/

While many exchanges, including the current top exchange by volume, Bitstamp, offer stop-loss orders which can help mitigate slippage, one exchange has gone further. LakeBTC has released a ‘hidden’ orderbook feature that it calls its “darkpool”, designed to protect investors against ‘financial predators’ waiting to exploit the price distortions created by big trades.

LakeBTC’s darkpool works by hiding big trades of 50 BTC and up from the public order book. Although the rest of the market can’t see the trade, the exchange continues trying to fill it with outstanding orders on the market at the time, the firm’s communications director Lisa Li said,
jay.latty
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3
Merit: 0


View Profile
October 16, 2014, 12:09:22 AM
 #8

Dark pool is a good way to  avoid trigger volatility and protect general traders.
Mieehayii
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 490
Merit: 500



View Profile
October 16, 2014, 02:15:40 AM
Last edit: October 17, 2014, 08:18:59 AM by Mieehayii
 #9

Dark pool is a good way to  avoid trigger volatility and protect general traders.
It is nothing, who can protect the planet when the extinction of dinosaurs?

███████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████▀███▀████
████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████▄▀▄█████
███████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████▀▄█▄▀████

███▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀██████▀▀▀████████▀▀▀██▀▀▀███████████▀▀▀██▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀████████▀▀▀█████
███          ▀███   ████████   ██    ▀█████████   ██           ▀████   █████
███   █████▄   ██   ████████   ██      ▀███████   ██   ██████▄   ███   █████
███   ██████   ██   ████████   ██   █▄   ▀█████   ██   ████████   ██   █████
███   █████▀   ██   ████████   ██   ███▄   ▀███   ██   ████████   ██   █████
███          ▄███   ▀██████▀   ██   █████▄   ▀█   ██   ███████▀   ██   █████
███   ▄▄▄▄▄███████   ▀▀▀▀▀▀   ███   ███████▄      ██   ▀▀▀▀▀▀   ▄███   █████
███   █████████████▄        ▄████   █████████▄    ██        ▄▄▄█████   █████
████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
.Any Store Can Buy, Sell and Accept Cryptocurrency.██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
[[[ Whitepaper    Twitter     Facebook]]]
[[[  Telegram      Medium     Youtube ]]]
Nrcewker
Copper Member
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 2170
Merit: 536


Building my own Dreams!


View Profile
October 16, 2014, 04:58:56 AM
 #10

Just a gimmick, it's meaningless in fact.

.BEST..CHANGE.███████████████
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
███████████████
..BUY/ SELL CRYPTO..
jayjay00001 (OP)
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 13
Merit: 0


View Profile
October 16, 2014, 05:33:59 AM
 #11

Just a gimmick, it's meaningless in fact.
it's not so simple, darkpool is widely used in stock trading. What I want to know is how to use darkpool in bitcoin trading.
Brmaster
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 69
Merit: 10


View Profile
October 16, 2014, 07:35:04 AM
 #12

Firstly, it cant decrease your actual cost, any bulk deal mean the cost of per unit will cut, this is nothing to do with darkpool.

And how it works? Each "dadrkpool" is different effect, which is a few bits and pieces with LakeBTC's darkpool I found on the Internet with gg

Quote
http://cointelegraph.com/news/112112/a-ban-should-target-risky-products-and-foul-players-not-bitcoin-itself-lakebtc-ceo-thomas-xie

CT: You have recently rolled out dark pool trading. Could you explain what this tool does and how it benefits users?

TX: From time to time we have users who come in and want to either buy or sell in large amounts, say 200 BTC. If you simply place an order like that it will obviously drive price up and down a lot. Besides, a public order-book is available to arbitragers, pro traders and predators. With advanced trading algorithms and strategies, they may take advantages of the information and affect trading price quickly. One way around this is hide your intention by splitting it to a number of smaller orders and spend hours or even days to spit out all these tiny orders.

Obviously not everybody can afford the trouble and time. Another method is dark pool. Note that our version of dark pool is not identical to the dark pools run by investment banks in equity market. Ours is more like invisible orders, which get executed with all other orders together. So dark pool orders still get matched with everybody else, but in a stealth way. You hide your intention and hopefully the market price will be less volatile and every investor, big or small, is happy.


Quote
http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-brokers-trade-millions-without-exchange/

While many exchanges, including the current top exchange by volume, Bitstamp, offer stop-loss orders which can help mitigate slippage, one exchange has gone further. LakeBTC has released a ‘hidden’ orderbook feature that it calls its “darkpool”, designed to protect investors against ‘financial predators’ waiting to exploit the price distortions created by big trades.

LakeBTC’s darkpool works by hiding big trades of 50 BTC and up from the public order book. Although the rest of the market can’t see the trade, the exchange continues trying to fill it with outstanding orders on the market at the time, the firm’s communications director Lisa Li said,
I still do not understand what is darkpool's advantage?

For now, the exchange is mor and mor transparent, confessed, whether are there darkpool the meaning of existence?
Gine.Unnta
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 15
Merit: 0


View Profile
October 16, 2014, 09:24:10 AM
 #13

Compared Laketrader, I think darkpool is not a meaningful feature for most users,
who would trading exceed BTC50 in one order everytime?
apelike
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 37
Merit: 0


View Profile
October 16, 2014, 09:45:35 AM
 #14

Just a gimmick, it's meaningless in fact.

Have you tried transacting with them?
juggernut
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 36
Merit: 0


View Profile
October 16, 2014, 01:18:54 PM
 #15

I heard about that. Never used it.
jayjay00001 (OP)
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 13
Merit: 0


View Profile
October 17, 2014, 01:28:38 AM
 #16

Compared Laketrader, I think darkpool is not a meaningful feature for most users,
who would trading exceed BTC50 in one order everytime?
Indeed, it is more useful for professional investors.
BTCjust
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 241
Merit: 250


View Profile
October 17, 2014, 03:07:50 AM
 #17

They are a chinese exchange.

Yeah, I believe their major staff are chinese, but perhaps Lakebtc is owned by an American or a citizen in European

Quote
LakeBTC is currently owned by Lake Investments Limited (BVI), with Shanghai Trading IT, Inc. providing technical and customer support.
https://www.lakebtc.com/s/about?locale=en

Both Bitfinex' and ANX' companies are in Hong Kong, but their owners should not be in Hong Kong, just like Mark Karpeles is not a Japanese



timtim363
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 5
Merit: 0


View Profile
October 17, 2014, 04:44:06 AM
 #18

They are a chinese exchange.

Yeah, I believe their major staff are chinese, but perhaps Lakebtc is owned by an American or a citizen in European

Quote
LakeBTC is currently owned by Lake Investments Limited (BVI), with Shanghai Trading IT, Inc. providing technical and customer support.
https://www.lakebtc.com/s/about?locale=en

Both Bitfinex' and ANX' companies are in Hong Kong, but their owners should not be in Hong Kong, just like Mark Karpeles is not a Japanese




Interesting
GreenCoin22
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 547
Merit: 500



View Profile
October 17, 2014, 07:20:53 AM
 #19

Firstly, it cant decrease your actual cost, any bulk deal mean the cost of per unit will cut, this is nothing to do with darkpool.

And how it works? Each "dadrkpool" is different effect, which is a few bits and pieces with LakeBTC's darkpool I found on the Internet with gg

Quote
http://cointelegraph.com/news/112112/a-ban-should-target-risky-products-and-foul-players-not-bitcoin-itself-lakebtc-ceo-thomas-xie

CT: You have recently rolled out dark pool trading. Could you explain what this tool does and how it benefits users?

TX: From time to time we have users who come in and want to either buy or sell in large amounts, say 200 BTC. If you simply place an order like that it will obviously drive price up and down a lot. Besides, a public order-book is available to arbitragers, pro traders and predators. With advanced trading algorithms and strategies, they may take advantages of the information and affect trading price quickly. One way around this is hide your intention by splitting it to a number of smaller orders and spend hours or even days to spit out all these tiny orders.

Obviously not everybody can afford the trouble and time. Another method is dark pool. Note that our version of dark pool is not identical to the dark pools run by investment banks in equity market. Ours is more like invisible orders, which get executed with all other orders together. So dark pool orders still get matched with everybody else, but in a stealth way. You hide your intention and hopefully the market price will be less volatile and every investor, big or small, is happy.


Quote
http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-brokers-trade-millions-without-exchange/

While many exchanges, including the current top exchange by volume, Bitstamp, offer stop-loss orders which can help mitigate slippage, one exchange has gone further. LakeBTC has released a ‘hidden’ orderbook feature that it calls its “darkpool”, designed to protect investors against ‘financial predators’ waiting to exploit the price distortions created by big trades.

LakeBTC’s darkpool works by hiding big trades of 50 BTC and up from the public order book. Although the rest of the market can’t see the trade, the exchange continues trying to fill it with outstanding orders on the market at the time, the firm’s communications director Lisa Li said,
I still do not understand what is darkpool's advantage?

For now, the exchange is mor and mor transparent, confessed, whether are there darkpool the meaning of existence?

In fact, it's no extra advantage, you need not to realize more, aha
Mieehayii
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 490
Merit: 500



View Profile
October 17, 2014, 08:18:31 AM
 #20

Dark pool is a good way to  avoid trigger volatility and protect general traders.
It is nothing, who can protect the planet when the extinction of dinosaurs?

when the bottom is getting lower and lower, who can hold it or take it fly to the moon?

███████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████▀███▀████
████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████▄▀▄█████
███████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████▀▄█▄▀████

███▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀██████▀▀▀████████▀▀▀██▀▀▀███████████▀▀▀██▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀████████▀▀▀█████
███          ▀███   ████████   ██    ▀█████████   ██           ▀████   █████
███   █████▄   ██   ████████   ██      ▀███████   ██   ██████▄   ███   █████
███   ██████   ██   ████████   ██   █▄   ▀█████   ██   ████████   ██   █████
███   █████▀   ██   ████████   ██   ███▄   ▀███   ██   ████████   ██   █████
███          ▄███   ▀██████▀   ██   █████▄   ▀█   ██   ███████▀   ██   █████
███   ▄▄▄▄▄███████   ▀▀▀▀▀▀   ███   ███████▄      ██   ▀▀▀▀▀▀   ▄███   █████
███   █████████████▄        ▄████   █████████▄    ██        ▄▄▄█████   █████
████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
.Any Store Can Buy, Sell and Accept Cryptocurrency.██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
[[[ Whitepaper    Twitter     Facebook]]]
[[[  Telegram      Medium     Youtube ]]]
Pages: [1] 2 »  All
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!