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October 15, 2014, 09:42:45 PM
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Hi guys!

I don't know that much about bitcoin and i was wondering what will happen to transactions which are in unconfirmed state for a long time. like this : https://blockchain.info/nl/tx/f24ff339fc651b0b28cdfc0e67bb4c2f91b46cbd39935ff4d70c95bb5c33b0e9
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October 15, 2014, 09:44:22 PM
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This could be a fake transaction, which gets no confirmations simply because it's fake. Alternatively, it gets resolved  Huh

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October 15, 2014, 09:48:53 PM
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it's a real transaction i did ...
just with a really low fee Sad
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October 15, 2014, 10:55:48 PM
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it also never occurred to me bitcoin payments, which only we can do is wait until the confirmation is completed, sometimes transferan bitcoin confirmation had to wait 50 or 25 confirmation, hopefully transferan can get more quickly into our wallet ...  Tongue

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October 16, 2014, 12:32:45 AM
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You just have to wait. It'll get confirmed in due time. Always best to include a fee to keep things moving along.
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October 16, 2014, 06:54:43 AM
Last edit: October 16, 2014, 03:45:51 PM by BiTJack
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Zero transaction fee again,wait it will confirm eventually with time but next time be sure to include a fee.
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October 16, 2014, 08:49:08 AM
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so around which time will it be confirmed?
and i put a really small fee like 0.000001 but i don't see it anymore
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October 16, 2014, 08:49:39 AM
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If you don't know enough about how fees are calculated, better to send a transaction with the standard 0.0001 fee and not worry about it. Your transaction could confirm if you are lucky, but you couldn't be lucky every time.

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October 16, 2014, 08:56:29 AM
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so around which time will it be confirmed?
and i put a really small fee like 0.000001 but i don't see it anymore

So perhaps your client removed the fee since it was irrelevant.
Just wait. Most zero-fee transactions will be confirmed eventually, don't be impatient.
If it isn't confirmed after a day or so, it might get thrown out of the pool of transactions waiting to be confirmed, and you should be able to retry it (this time with sufficient fee).

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October 16, 2014, 08:57:20 AM
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If you stop rebroadcasting the transaction it will be dropped and forgotten from the network eventually (if it doesn't get confirmed in the mean time)
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October 16, 2014, 03:40:19 PM
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This could be a fake transaction, which gets no confirmations simply because it's fake. Alternatively, it gets resolved  Huh
What are you talking about? There are NO fake transactions! It is impossible to create a fake transaction(well in theory you can create a fake transaction but you will not be able to push because nodes will drop it and miners will not pick it) If you meant create a transaction that will never confirm because miners just not pick it than yes it is possible all you have to do is create a transaction which has a lot of inputs and low fee in that case miners may not pick the transaction and thus forget about it but you have to wait. In op's situation it will likely drop(but nothing stops for another bitcoin user to rebroadcast it.

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October 16, 2014, 03:45:12 PM
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Fees    0.00 BTC
this one tell everything Cheesy that's why your tx is not confirmed till now
network will forget this tx and your bitcoin will be refunded into your address
but this step need some days, if you lucky, it will happen in 2-3 days (my experience), but i can takes a week too
just pray for the best Cheesy
so around which time will it be confirmed?
and i put a really small fee like 0.000001 but i don't see it anymore
minimum fee recommended is 0.0001 BTC

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October 17, 2014, 01:38:23 PM
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Hi guys!

I don't know that much about bitcoin and i was wondering what will happen to transactions which are in unconfirmed state for a long time. like this : https://blockchain.info/nl/tx/f24ff339fc651b0b28cdfc0e67bb4c2f91b46cbd39935ff4d70c95bb5c33b0e9

The transaction input isn't old (313 confimations) and isn't big (0.00399 btc).
And so that free transaction will take a very very long time (if ever) to be confirmed.

The result of the unconfirmed transaction depends on the wallet you use. If you use bitcoin core, the transaction will stay in your wallet and will be re-broadcast again and again.

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October 17, 2014, 03:36:04 PM
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Because of this I created this transaction https://blockchain.info/tx/0c9b97eabf40271ef4f5061903e9731ac95d0bbe6bc9fb9e93fc9a18e16af2f2 it is too a medium priority transaction and includes 0 as a fee I don't remember when was the last time I tried to double-spend this kind of transaction. I got this in debug window 5d7a1d6a648fc1944c750e48c65e3204b09a2e93bdd4370c7666398e14b25508 lets see if it appears here http://respends.thinlink.com/

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October 18, 2014, 07:12:44 AM
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Fees    0.00 BTC
this one tell everything Cheesy that's why your tx is not confirmed till now
network will forget this tx and your bitcoin will be refunded into your address
but this step need some days, if you lucky, it will happen in 2-3 days (my experience), but i can takes a week too
just pray for the best Cheesy
so around which time will it be confirmed?
and i put a really small fee like 0.000001 but i don't see it anymore
minimum fee recommended is 0.0001 BTC
The amount of time needed for the transaction to be dropped depends on the client you use. Some broadcast it forever while some drop it after a while. It will eventually be confirmed if it is broadcasted for a long time but it does take a lot of time. Minimum fee is 0.0001 unless the input is old enough plus the input and output is at least 0.01 and above.

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October 19, 2014, 11:06:21 AM
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You just have to wait. It'll get confirmed in due time. Always best to include a fee to keep things moving along.

What happens if a node continuously pumps dust into the blockchain?  Like a server farm of 100s of PCs that do nothing but pump dust into the BTC blockchain, in an attempt to cripple it like a DOS attack?  Does that node get somehow cut off?

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October 19, 2014, 11:15:10 AM
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You just have to wait. It'll get confirmed in due time. Always best to include a fee to keep things moving along.

What happens if a node continuously pumps dust into the blockchain?  Like a server farm of 100s of PCs that do nothing but pump dust into the BTC blockchain, in an attempt to cripple it like a DOS attack?  Does that node get somehow cut off?


In the past people have done that but it would cost them alot in fees. Or they would get rejected.

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October 19, 2014, 11:26:54 AM
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You just have to wait. It'll get confirmed in due time. Always best to include a fee to keep things moving along.

What happens if a node continuously pumps dust into the blockchain?  Like a server farm of 100s of PCs that do nothing but pump dust into the BTC blockchain, in an attempt to cripple it like a DOS attack?  Does that node get somehow cut off?

It would cost a lot in fees and coins. In order for it to be sucessful, the nodes must accept it. Nearly all of the node refuse to relay dust transaction if the fee is too low. Most of the node and mining pool are designed to reject these kind of dust transactions. There are however, still a few mining pool willing to include dust transaction.

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October 19, 2014, 01:09:04 PM
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so just keep waiting? Smiley
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October 19, 2014, 03:12:40 PM
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Transactions without fee may be long, several miners are choosing blocks with higher fee.
Has it occurred to me that a transaction without fee delay 4 days to confirm.

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