Nick Szabo is helping on the Ethereum project?

[slaveforanunnak1]

I was reading Gav's ethereum update and I noticed an interesting paragraph;

   In addition to his impressive public speaking schedule, Vitalik has been putting in considerable efforts into research on potential consensus algorithms. Together with Vlad Zamfir, a number of potential approaches have been mooted over the past few weeks. Ultimately, we decided to follow the advice of some in our community, like Nick Szabo, who have urged us to focus on getting a working product off the ground and not try to make every last detail perfect before launching. In that regard, we’ve decided to move many of our more ambitious changes, including native extensions, auto-triggering events and proof of stake, into a planned future upgrade to happen around mid-to-late 2015.

I thought no one really knows who Nick Szabo is!?

https://blog.ethereum.org/2014/10/17/gavs-d%CE%BEv-update-ethereums/

[cryptopaths]

INB4 Nick Szabo is Satoshi theories.

[Skoupi]

Obviously ethereum developers/marketers want to capitalize on the szabo/satoshi conspiracy theory...
i wonder why... aren't they super rich already?  

[BitCoinDream]

I was reading Gav's ethereum update and I noticed an interesting paragraph;

   In addition to his impressive public speaking schedule, Vitalik has been putting in considerable efforts into research on potential consensus algorithms. Together with Vlad Zamfir, a number of potential approaches have been mooted over the past few weeks. Ultimately, we decided to follow the advice of some in our community, like Nick Szabo, who have urged us to focus on getting a working product off the ground and not try to make every last detail perfect before launching. In that regard, we’ve decided to move many of our more ambitious changes, including native extensions, auto-triggering events and proof of stake, into a planned future upgrade to happen around mid-to-late 2015.

I thought no one really knows who Nick Szabo is!?

https://blog.ethereum.org/2014/10/17/gavs-d%CE%BEv-update-ethereums/

As long as it is not confirmed by https://twitter.com/NickSzabo4 or http://unenumerated.blogspot.in/, there is no reason to believe this. Vitalik and his army will now do a lot of things to artificially inflate price of the failed product.

[tilray]

interesting find but I am sure this is all to add hype to a failed project

[slaveforanunnak1]

Obviously ethereum developers/marketers want to capitalize on the szabo/satoshi conspiracy theory...
i wonder why... aren't they super rich already?  

WTF are you talking about? Capitalize on what exactly? Ethersale is over! Why would they lie now? Nick is active and just made a post last night. Did you read it?

[slaveforanunnak1]

I was reading Gav's ethereum update and I noticed an interesting paragraph;

   In addition to his impressive public speaking schedule, Vitalik has been putting in considerable efforts into research on potential consensus algorithms. Together with Vlad Zamfir, a number of potential approaches have been mooted over the past few weeks. Ultimately, we decided to follow the advice of some in our community, like Nick Szabo, who have urged us to focus on getting a working product off the ground and not try to make every last detail perfect before launching. In that regard, we’ve decided to move many of our more ambitious changes, including native extensions, auto-triggering events and proof of stake, into a planned future upgrade to happen around mid-to-late 2015.

I thought no one really knows who Nick Szabo is!?

https://blog.ethereum.org/2014/10/17/gavs-d%CE%BEv-update-ethereums/

As long as it is not confirmed by https://twitter.com/NickSzabo4 or http://unenumerated.blogspot.in/, there is no reason to believe this. Vitalik and his army will now do a lot of things to artificially inflate price of the failed product.

WTF are you talking about! Did you even read his tweets guy?

I don't fucking understand!? Why does everyone call Ethereum a failed project when it's not even winter yet! Sorry if this is now becoming a Ethereum rant, but that's it, I need to get this off of my chest.

The only reason I found out about Ethereum is because of Nick Szabo! Yes, Nick Szabo! The guy who half the community think is actually Satoshi and the other half think that Satoshi is not him, but he must have studied Szabo's work in great detail and basically added a proof-of-work mechanism to BitGold! So, I think we can all agree that the guy is a genius! A Nikola Tesla. An Isaac Newton. An Avicenna! These are the people who come around once in a while, and push science and technology and philosophy one step forward. Whats my point? Nick has tweeted about Ethereum 3 times. Go see if he has done the same with any other so called Alts!


I was having a smoke going through my phone one night  when i saw a tweet from Nick!
https://twitter.com/NickSzabo4/status/480101674061545474

I remember going and checking it out. Then a month later he re-tweeted "an introduction to smart contract by ethereum"

A month after that it was:
https://twitter.com/NickSzabo4/status/495300992049479680
and i quote

Ethereum has the best ideas in block chain tech. Execution, not so much.

If you were the Ethereum team, and you see that Tweet, Would you tweet back? I would! You think Szabo would Tweet back? I don't know but it looks like he may have! It actually sounds like they talked about the "best idea in block chain tech" and took a few pointers. Which is why this statement is very plausible.

"Nick Szabo, who have urged us to focus on getting a working product off the ground and not try to make every last detail perfect before launching"

Which brings me to my question! How involved is Mr. Nick Szabo with Ethereum? I would like to know that! So, please stop talking out of your ASS about how they are just trying to what did you say ? I have to scroll up...... oh, " artificially inflate price of the failed product"   HAHAHA! That is such an absurd statement.

Just like Andreas always says...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0ClAuzjRZlw#t=2757




You people sometimes.... I don't even....

[Platonicgap]

Ya'll will love this:

"Ethereum has vast potential, whereas Bitcoin won't ever do anything well beyond implementing a currency," programmer Nick Szabo, another early Bitcoin proponent who's recently begun tweeting after an extended absence from the internet, told us in an email several weeks ago.

http://www.businessinsider.com/ethereum-launches-ether-2014-7

"early Bitcoin proponent"

I'd say. Thrown off yet?

He does speak the truth in the context of his essays on smart contracts. He is all about that. A well implemented Ethereum would be closer to his final vision than Bitcoin. Even if Bitcoin/gold was his initial vision. There is nothing controversial about this, it's just a matter of reading the essays.

[Billbags]

@slaveforanunnak1

Great write up and definitely the right attitude. Bitcoin was always meant to be the launching platform for smart contracts. It was designed that way. Launch quickly, make adjustments once you get under way. That sounds familiar?...Just like 2009.

This link below was Nicks first mention of implementing his smart contracts into anonymous decentralized currency::

http://cypherpunks.venona.com/date/1995/09/msg01303.html

This second link below was who's email he was answering(you mentioned a smoking gun):

http://cypherpunks.venona.com/date/1995/09/msg00964.html


 Szabo “came up” with the technology that will become ethereum including smart contracts which was solely contingent on Satoshi’s work that Szabo never knew would be produced?

http://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/548/469

Smart contracts come about because Bitcoin is the beginning of the completion of a “Kula Ring”, a unifying solution that bridges among other things, game theory, encryption, economics, finance, programming, and law… there are not multiple random people capable of this…

[UnicornFarts]

slaveforanunnak1

I agree 1000%.  It's absolutely hilarious that most of the people in altcoins accuse ethereum of being a scam.

If you read their blog posts you can see how much work and excitement is going into the project.  Regardless of if you agree \ disagree with their funding method it HAS put turbo boosters on their vision and they are moving at a rapid rate.  They already have MUCH more technology available in their downloadable programmable client \ blockchain than any other "web 3.0 alts" and they haven't released the genesis block yet.

I can't believe you heard about it thru Nick Szabo - that is pretty hilarious though.  

http://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/2jk637/gav_i_have_a_question_nick_szabo/  - I think the question will eventually be answered here.  Many of the people excited about Ethereum think bitcoin is a bit stupid.  It was before things really got rolling - but you can find one of their core C+ devs saying as much if you look back far enough.  What they are trying to accomplish is impressive.

Looking forward to what happens with it in spring of 2015.

[slaveforanunnak1]

slaveforanunnak1

I agree 1000%.  It's absolutely hilarious that most of the people in altcoins accuse ethereum of being a scam.

If you read their blog posts you can see how much work and excitement is going into the project.  Regardless of if you agree \ disagree with their funding method it HAS put turbo boosters on their vision and they are moving at a rapid rate.  They already have MUCH more technology available in their downloadable programmable client \ blockchain than any other "web 3.0 alts" and they haven't released the genesis block yet.

I can't believe you heard about it thru Nick Szabo - that is pretty hilarious though.  

http://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/2jk637/gav_i_have_a_question_nick_szabo/  - I think the question will eventually be answered here.  Many of the people excited about Ethereum think bitcoin is a bit stupid.  It was before things really got rolling - but you can find one of their core C+ devs saying as much if you look back far enough.  What they are trying to accomplish is impressive.

Looking forward to what happens with it in spring of 2015.

I'm a network guy, routing , switch and such. I don't do a lot of programing but Ethereum and SDN are making me start learning python.

[UnicornFarts]

I'm a network guy, routing , switch and such. I don't do a lot of programing but Ethereum and SDN are making me start learning python.

I might if a project calls for it.  I know they  are already (some guy in the forums) working on a webthin client that will work with a rasberri pi.  Rasberri Pi + Ethereum + Doorlock + Reputation System + DAPP = AirBNB.  The applications are much MUCH greater for this project than most people just wanting to talk some noobs into giving up their BTC

[slaveforanunnak1]

I'm a network guy, routing , switch and such. I don't do a lot of programing but Ethereum and SDN are making me start learning python.

I might if a project calls for it.  I know they  are already (some guy in the forums) working on a webthin client that will work with a rasberri pi.  Rasberri Pi + Ethereum + Doorlock + Reputation System + DAPP = AirBNB.  The applications are much MUCH greater for this project than most people just wanting to talk some noobs into giving up their BTC

Its funny to watch actually

[Platonicgap]

@slaveforanunnak1

I've noticed the same phenomenon with my brother who is an embedded systems developer. Not very eager to learn about the internal plumbing and coding for Bitcoin, never could get him to attend a Bitcoin meetup, but he gets excited about Ethereum because it potentially gives him more power to build (decentralized apps).  Makes me wonder how universal of a phenomenon this is, with the developer excitement.

[Spoetnik]

INB4 Nick Szabo is Satoshi theories.

in before your endless whacked out lunatic theories you spammed about in the other forum sections then you got banned over LOL

i should go collect them up and post them so everyone can see your uhhhhhhhh "theories"

so why did you hide for so long anyway ?

research teams at universities posted Nick Szabo is Satoshi theories with tangible facts and points that can be verified..
ref = http://www.coindesk.com/linguistic-researchers-name-nick-szabo-author-bitcoin-whitepaper/
YOU posted crazy NSA made Bitcoin type of theories LOL

[UnicornFarts]

I spoke with him a couple of times, including in person. He was looking into our software and liked its smart contracting potential, but we had a few conversations where he direly warned us not to go down the path if Xanadu and try to make absolutely everything right and get sidelined by a worse-but-good-enough competitor like the World Wide Web in the process.

[slapper]

Nick is Satoshi is a conspiracy fact. I also have little doubt he was bored and created the whole gmx email hack drama last month. Incredible discipline to not cash out any part of the early mined BTCs. When Charles H was part of the Ethereum team you would have heard a lot of times how he referenced the missing TC language and smart contracts speak in Bitcoin whitepaper.

It is incredible that Nick is a proponent of Ethereum and even more amazing that Vitalik made an effort to meet him in person. This is serious.

[slaveforanunnak1]

Nick is Satoshi is a conspiracy fact. I also have little doubt he was bored and created the whole gmx email hack drama last month. Incredible discipline to not cash out any part of the early mined BTCs. When Charles H was part of the Ethereum team you would have heard a lot of times how he referenced the missing TC language and smart contracts speak in Bitcoin whitepaper.

It is incredible that Nick is a proponent of Ethereum and even more amazing that Vitalik made an effort to meet him in person. This is serious.

Serious is correct! I for one can NOT wait for 1.0

[abs350]

Ethereum has all the hallmarks of vaporware.

Whilst I won't go so far as to predict the outcome of the project - especially since their funding has been phenomenal - I recommend you to read this lengthy account of a similar well-known vaporware project.

http://archive.wired.com/wired/archive/3.06/xanadu_pr.html

My judgement - given the team working on ethereum - is that it's similar to Xanadu. It seems like they are trying to reinvent crypto-currency and the bitcoin blockchain, except they don't really know what they are inventing.

I can't see any practical use for Ethereum except for creating another currency.

I'd steer clear of getting involved with this project in any of its forms. It looks like it's very cleverly marketed - the "yellowpaper" certainly reads impressively - however, until they actually have a product that appeals to anyone other than speculators, I'd stay well clear.

[jabo38]

I spoke with him a couple of times, including in person. He was looking into our software and liked its smart contracting potential, but we had a few conversations where he direly warned us not to go down the path if Xanadu and try to make absolutely everything right and get sidelined by a worse-but-good-enough competitor like the World Wide Web in the process.

I was pretty shocked by this statement so I tracked it back to here. https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/2jk637/gav_i_have_a_question_nick_szabo/

My thoughts.  Vitalik is a true believer and in it for the love of the tech and possibilities.  He may or may not deliver, but he is definitely not a crypto pumper just out to get rich.  Those that have set themselves up around him definitely are sly, manipulative and playing a game, but that isn't Vitalik. 

I thought Nick was just another pseudonym (and I still do believe it is as he admits to having others) and that he wouldn't ever surface.  This is the first credible sighting I have ever heard of Nick actually being put in a room talking with somebody else. 

But since Vitalik said it himself, I believe it.  I long ago read Nick's blog and saw his Ethereum tweet.  Sounded like he was trying to prod Ethereum into action and I can definitely believe he stepped it up a level in intensity and even paid Vitalik a surprise visit. 

We all know that Vitalik is a wild card.  Ethereum very well might turn into vaporware or it is very possible Vitalik might have a eureka moment.  I am sure Nick knows this and that is why he is supporting him and pushing him in the direction Vitalik mentioned.  There is hardly a truer believer than Nick.  His work predates "Satoshi".  I think he would take a liking to a 2nd generation faithful like Vitalik.  There aren't many people like him around that are actually capable of building on what Nick did in a unique and interesting way. 

For both Nick and Vitalik, it is not about the money, it is about changing the future.  To that extent I believe this report.