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October 20, 2014, 06:39:40 AM |
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All I hear on here is how awesome Qora is and how it's the best crypto and now will be first coin to get Turing complete which is a major advance in crypto etc blah blah blah.. So I think about investing in it and dropping a few BTC assuming it's already exploded in price and has massive vol but it trades like a shit coin, it's below mona coin in marketcap!
So is the Qora hype just hype or should I invest? I'm tired of coins that promise and don't deliver, is this one of those?
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October 20, 2014, 07:39:41 AM |
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Qora promised Voting System and it was delivered. Qora promised Arbitrary Transactions and it was delivered. Qora promised wallet upgrades and it was delivered. Qora promised Asset Exchange and it was delivered. Now Turing Complete and new GUI is promised, so I would expect delivery ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Why the volume is low? I don't know.
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October 20, 2014, 07:47:21 AM |
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All I hear on here is how awesome Qora is and how it's the best crypto and now will be first coin to get Turing complete which is a major advance in crypto etc blah blah blah..
Really? That's funny, I never hear anybody say any of that stuff about Qora. I would go with "just hype" if I was you. Coins are meaningless if you can't get people to use them. We're already having a hard enough time getting people to use BTC.
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October 20, 2014, 08:00:26 AM |
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All I hear on here is how awesome Qora is and how it's the best crypto and now will be first coin to get Turing complete which is a major advance in crypto etc blah blah blah..
Really? That's funny, I never hear anybody say any of that stuff about Qora. I would go with "just hype" if I was you. Coins are meaningless if you can't get people to use them. We're already having a hard enough time getting people to use BTC. Bitcoin is only 500K-2M users. Not sure how we get more people to use Bitcoin as clearly something is not clicking with mainstreet. Bitcoin has been in the financial section of many newspapers and I see it on television a bit and yet the userbase expansion just isn't happening. It's so far off to even compare BTC at the moment to something like Yahoo (which had more users in 1995) or Myspace which had 100 million accounts by 2006 (3 years after its' inception). Until I see code I think Qora is a reskinned NXT (aka Qora is a $hitcoin and has a $hitcoin capitalization as a result). Qora also just doesn't have the community. Look at Doge - almost no innovation and yet its worth more than most coins due to the community.
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October 20, 2014, 08:07:24 AM |
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Qora promised Voting System and it was delivered.Qora promised Arbitrary Transactions and it was delivered.Qora promised wallet upgrades and it was delivered. Qora promised Asset Exchange and it was delivered.Now Turing Complete and new GUI is promised, so I would expect delivery ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Why the volume is low? I don't know. This looks suspicious. All these features were in Nxt source code (even Voting System which simply lacked client support in NRS and hence wasn't considered as "released") and Qora didn't offer any unique feature. It looks like Qora is really Nxt but with its own client part. We could solve this riddle easily in such the manner: 1. Someone sends me complete source code of Qora. 2. I check if it can be a modified Nxt. 3. I don't share the source code and delete it after the analysis without any copies kept. Do you want to stop the FUD about Qora being a clone of Nxt?
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October 20, 2014, 08:13:53 AM |
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All I hear on here is how awesome Qora is and how it's the best crypto and now will be first coin to get Turing complete which is a major advance in crypto etc blah blah blah..
Really? That's funny, I never hear anybody say any of that stuff about Qora. I would go with "just hype" if I was you. Coins are meaningless if you can't get people to use them. We're already having a hard enough time getting people to use BTC. Bitcoin is only 500K-2M users. Not sure how we get more people to use Bitcoin as clearly something is not clicking with mainstreet. Bitcoin has been in the financial section of many newspapers and I see it on television a bit and yet the userbase expansion just isn't happening. It's so far off to even compare BTC at the moment to something like Yahoo (which had more users in 1995) or Myspace which had 100 million accounts by 2006 (3 years after its' inception). Until I see code I think Qora is a reskinned NXT (aka Qora is a $hitcoin and has a $hitcoin capitalization as a result). Qora also just doesn't have the community. Look at Doge - almost no innovation and yet its worth more than most coins due to the community. exact community is 90% of the value of the currency see BTC there are already other best coins but still BTC will reign for a long time
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October 20, 2014, 08:18:29 AM |
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Qora promised Voting System and it was delivered.Qora promised Arbitrary Transactions and it was delivered.Qora promised wallet upgrades and it was delivered. Qora promised Asset Exchange and it was delivered.Now Turing Complete and new GUI is promised, so I would expect delivery ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Why the volume is low? I don't know. This looks suspicious. All these features were in Nxt source code (even Voting System which simply lacked client support in NRS and hence wasn't considered as "released") and Qora didn't offer any unique feature. It looks like Qora is really Nxt but with its own client part. We could solve this riddle easily in such the manner: 1. Someone sends me complete source code of Qora. 2. I check if it can be a modified Nxt. 3. I don't share the source code and delete it after the analysis without any copies kept. Do you want to stop the FUD about Qora being a clone of Nxt? It will be great, if you can inspect the code. It will finish the endless speculation. I am contacting Qora about your offer. Btw. Qora had naming service with an exchange on launch and AE offers asset/asset trading. Nxt did not have this features that time.
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October 20, 2014, 08:21:26 AM |
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Qora promised Voting System and it was delivered.Qora promised Arbitrary Transactions and it was delivered.Qora promised wallet upgrades and it was delivered. Qora promised Asset Exchange and it was delivered.Now Turing Complete and new GUI is promised, so I would expect delivery ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Why the volume is low? I don't know. This looks suspicious. All these features were in Nxt source code (even Voting System which simply lacked client support in NRS and hence wasn't considered as "released") and Qora didn't offer any unique feature. It looks like Qora is really Nxt but with its own client part. We could solve this riddle easily in such the manner: 1. Someone sends me complete source code of Qora. 2. I check if it can be a modified Nxt. 3. I don't share the source code and delete it after the analysis without any copies kept. Do you want to stop the FUD about Qora being a clone of Nxt? AT Devs should have a peak at the code so they could verify. Also Qora dev has indicated he will open source soon enough either way so need to assume...
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October 20, 2014, 08:23:09 AM |
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Qora promised Voting System and it was delivered.Qora promised Arbitrary Transactions and it was delivered.Qora promised wallet upgrades and it was delivered. Qora promised Asset Exchange and it was delivered.Now Turing Complete and new GUI is promised, so I would expect delivery ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Why the volume is low? I don't know. This looks suspicious. All these features were in Nxt source code (even Voting System which simply lacked client support in NRS and hence wasn't considered as "released") and Qora didn't offer any unique feature. It looks like Qora is really Nxt but with its own client part. We could solve this riddle easily in such the manner: 1. Someone sends me complete source code of Qora. 2. I check if it can be a modified Nxt. 3. I don't share the source code and delete it after the analysis without any copies kept. Do you want to stop the FUD about Qora being a clone of Nxt? this is the reason ? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=579858.0
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October 20, 2014, 08:23:30 AM |
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Qora promised Voting System and it was delivered.Qora promised Arbitrary Transactions and it was delivered.Qora promised wallet upgrades and it was delivered. Qora promised Asset Exchange and it was delivered.Now Turing Complete and new GUI is promised, so I would expect delivery ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Why the volume is low? I don't know. This looks suspicious. All these features were in Nxt source code (even Voting System which simply lacked client support in NRS and hence wasn't considered as "released") and Qora didn't offer any unique feature. It looks like Qora is really Nxt but with its own client part. We could solve this riddle easily in such the manner: 1. Someone sends me complete source code of Qora. 2. I check if it can be a modified Nxt. 3. I don't share the source code and delete it after the analysis without any copies kept. Do you want to stop the FUD about Qora being a clone of Nxt? AT Devs should have a peak at the code so they could verify. Also Qora dev has indicated he will open source soon enough either way so need to assume... An all clear from CfB would be a PR gamechanger far more than any AT developer.
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October 20, 2014, 08:25:46 AM |
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Qora promised Voting System and it was delivered.Qora promised Arbitrary Transactions and it was delivered.Qora promised wallet upgrades and it was delivered. Qora promised Asset Exchange and it was delivered.Now Turing Complete and new GUI is promised, so I would expect delivery ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Why the volume is low? I don't know. This looks suspicious. All these features were in Nxt source code (even Voting System which simply lacked client support in NRS and hence wasn't considered as "released") and Qora didn't offer any unique feature. It looks like Qora is really Nxt but with its own client part. We could solve this riddle easily in such the manner: 1. Someone sends me complete source code of Qora. 2. I check if it can be a modified Nxt. 3. I don't share the source code and delete it after the analysis without any copies kept. Do you want to stop the FUD about Qora being a clone of Nxt? I have trust in qora and believe that it is not a clone. I also believe that its volume and marketcap should be among the top 3 coins and it will get there in time. That is for a lot of reasons, eg check my post here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=522102.msg9207780#msg9207780But I'd also like all rumors saying it is a NXT clone are to put an end. That will come in time, after the wallet GUI embellishment and new website is done (from what the dev said in the main qora chatroom). There is no rush. Community can vote again for going OS, or just a quick review from CfB. I would vote yes for you CfB.. Maybe the community can vote for giving the 1st version of qora's code for a check to CfB. Now or sometime in the future.
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October 20, 2014, 08:25:59 AM |
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Btw. Qora had naming service with an exchange on launch and AE offers asset/asset trading. Nxt did not have this features that time.
Naming service aka Alias System? Asset/asset trading is not difficult to add if you have asset/NXT one. Nxt didn't do it because this would lower price of 1 NXT significantly.
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October 20, 2014, 08:28:04 AM |
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Is this sudden interest related to you (and a few others) trying your best to overshadow AT? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) No. It would be great if you stopped trolling, your claims are based on pure speculation and doesn't make you look good.
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October 20, 2014, 08:28:41 AM |
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Qora promised Voting System and it was delivered.Qora promised Arbitrary Transactions and it was delivered.Qora promised wallet upgrades and it was delivered. Qora promised Asset Exchange and it was delivered.Now Turing Complete and new GUI is promised, so I would expect delivery ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Why the volume is low? I don't know. This looks suspicious. All these features were in Nxt source code (even Voting System which simply lacked client support in NRS and hence wasn't considered as "released") and Qora didn't offer any unique feature. It looks like Qora is really Nxt but with its own client part. We could solve this riddle easily in such the manner: 1. Someone sends me complete source code of Qora. 2. I check if it can be a modified Nxt. 3. I don't share the source code and delete it after the analysis without any copies kept. Do you want to stop the FUD about Qora being a clone of Nxt? AT Devs should have a peak at the code so they could verify. Also Qora dev has indicated he will open source soon enough either way so need to assume... The best person to look at the code is CfB, but if CIYAM is going to look at the code I think he could tell for sure too. Regardless, somebody familiar with both systems that is reputable needs to look it over. Both CIYAM and CfB can be trusted to look at the code and not leak it.
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October 20, 2014, 08:29:57 AM |
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October 20, 2014, 08:30:33 AM |
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Btw. Qora had naming service with an exchange on launch and AE offers asset/asset trading. Nxt did not have this features that time.
Naming service aka Alias System? Asset/asset trading is not difficult to add if you have asset/NXT one. Nxt didn't do it because this would lower price of 1 NXT significantly. Just suspended your disbelief for one second and answer this theoretical question. Just say Qora WAS BCNext. Wouldn't his next project have hallmarks of NXT? *Qora has never denied being BCNext but he has said he knows almost nothing about NXT, my point is rumors of this have been community created. This shit needs to be sorted out once and for all.
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October 20, 2014, 08:32:16 AM |
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Qora promised Voting System and it was delivered.Qora promised Arbitrary Transactions and it was delivered.Qora promised wallet upgrades and it was delivered. Qora promised Asset Exchange and it was delivered.Now Turing Complete and new GUI is promised, so I would expect delivery ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Why the volume is low? I don't know. This looks suspicious. All these features were in Nxt source code (even Voting System which simply lacked client support in NRS and hence wasn't considered as "released") and Qora didn't offer any unique feature. It looks like Qora is really Nxt but with its own client part. We could solve this riddle easily in such the manner: 1. Someone sends me complete source code of Qora. 2. I check if it can be a modified Nxt. 3. I don't share the source code and delete it after the analysis without any copies kept. Do you want to stop the FUD about Qora being a clone of Nxt? AT Devs should have a peak at the code so they could verify. Also Qora dev has indicated he will open source soon enough either way so need to assume... The best person to look at the code is CfB, but if CIYAM is going to look at the code I think he could tell for sure too. Regardless, somebody familiar with both systems that is reputable needs to look it over. Both CIYAM and CfB can be trusted to look at the code and not leak it. He would have some bias, plus who knows NXT code better than CfB? Thing is CfB has kind of laid down a gauntlet here. He has questioned Qora as a scam and also given us a way to prove it isn't. Are we chicken?
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October 20, 2014, 08:34:00 AM |
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Hey guys,
I will gain access to a private qora repository this week, and i can easily verify if it is or not nxt based. From the talks we had with qora about the intergration of the AT , i got the feeling that has some basic fundamendal at least difference from nxt. Now if some parts or ideas were borrowed from the nxt platform, i dont see why that is a problem.
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October 20, 2014, 08:34:23 AM |
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But I'd also like all rumors saying it is a NXT clone are to put an end.
I see no problem with Qora being a clone of Nxt if this is stated honestly. Nxt and any other coin are just clones of Bitcoin. But trolls like TaunSew ruin reputation of Qora more than it deserves. I offer a solution that could get rid of taunsews.
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October 20, 2014, 08:35:26 AM |
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Why is it when I look for images and videos of Qora on Google, it redirects me to Doge? Even the search engine knows it's a $hitcoin. ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) Google artificial intelligence is smart enough to advise people to go for a better coin. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) I've been waiting for independent code before I even consider buying something like Qora.
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There ain't no Revolution like a NEMolution. The only solution is Bitcoin's dissolution! NEM!
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