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October 21, 2014, 11:11:04 AM
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They probably have good intentions.  If they wanted to make a quick buck they would just sell the domain
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October 21, 2014, 11:21:53 AM
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They probably have good intentions.  If they wanted to make a quick buck they would just sell the domain

If you ask me they bought the domain to make some slow buck.

as i see this, any info on bitcoin is positive if it is true. People will use websites where they wil gain whatever they search. If one website plan to scam people will not last that long. Yes there will be some victims, but there wil not be endless victims.

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October 21, 2014, 11:32:07 AM
Last edit: October 21, 2014, 11:46:07 AM by franky1
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i think the point is that anything uploaded to bitcoin.org has atleast been tried and tested to not be scamware.

EG id only trust to get bitcoin-core.exe updates from there, and not dodgycopywebsites.com/fulloftrojans

Nothing is uploaded to Bitcoin.org.  They provide links to various wallet services and there is no standard testing method or standard method of accepting/rejecting something.  It is decided by a small group and since I can't see how the decisions are made I don't always trust the decisions.

NOTHING?HuhHuh

https://bitcoin.org/bin/0.9.3/bitcoin-0.9.3-win64-setup.exe

hmmmmm..........
i guess you can get the official bitcoin-core exe FROM THE SITE

also note that bitcoin.org is NOT the bitcoin foundation. bitcoin.org existed far before the bitcoin foundation, it is managed by gavin andressen and the community of developers. and yes gavin and a few others are are paid by the bitcoin foundation but also remember that gavin and the developers are smart enough to have his own mind and care more about bitcoin, than the bad acts of those fiat loving, tax dodgers of the foundation.

so dont confuse bitcoin.org with the foundation

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October 21, 2014, 12:45:11 PM
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i think the point is that anything uploaded to bitcoin.org has atleast been tried and tested to not be scamware.

EG id only trust to get bitcoin-core.exe updates from there, and not dodgycopywebsites.com/fulloftrojans

Nothing is uploaded to Bitcoin.org.  They provide links to various wallet services and there is no standard testing method or standard method of accepting/rejecting something.  It is decided by a small group and since I can't see how the decisions are made I don't always trust the decisions.

NOTHING?HuhHuh

https://bitcoin.org/bin/0.9.3/bitcoin-0.9.3-win64-setup.exe

hmmmmm..........
i guess you can get the official bitcoin-core exe FROM THE SITE

also note that bitcoin.org is NOT the bitcoin foundation. bitcoin.org existed far before the bitcoin foundation, it is managed by gavin andressen and the community of developers. and yes gavin and a few others are are paid by the bitcoin foundation but also remember that gavin and the developers are smart enough to have his own mind and care more about bitcoin, than the bad acts of those fiat loving, tax dodgers of the foundation.

so dont confuse bitcoin.org with the foundation

They do not offer downloads of third party wallet programs at bitcoin.org like you claimed.  If what you say is true then the site is both managed and supported by a Bitcoin Foundation employee and they dictate the content.  "community of developers" is another one of those meaningless terms people like to say when they are trying to hide or misrepresent the actual process.  The site is run by a few insiders who attack people who complain.  I saw what they did to andreas Antonopoulos on there and he eventually left the Foundation. 

As for your statement:  "remember that gavin and the developers are smart enough to have his own mind and care more about bitcoin, than the bad acts of those fiat loving, tax dodgers of the foundation."  That is just another meaningless fanboy comment.  if they are so smart then they should be smart enough to distance themselves from people like Vessenes and they should not have supported things like Mt. Gox and Inputs.io.  The other point that you miss is that theymos is also involved in bitcoin.org.  He is known for running a site with scam after scam after scam right here.

Face facts, you treat Bitcoin like a religion and you can't see reality.   That fact is used to rip people off.  I remember when I started complaining about Mt. Gox.  In early 2013 I started saying that Mt. Gox did not know what they were doing and I used to complain to the Foundation.  My complaints were disregarded and the fanboys said how much Mt. Gox was doing for Bitcoin and I was  "troll."  In early 2013 I said that in 18 months that all the major players in the Foundation would be gone like Mt. Gox, Coinlab, and Bitinstant.  I was wrong in that I thought Theymos would be prosecuted by now.  if Gavin was so smart why didn't he work to remove the Bitcoin Foundation logos from Mt. Gox and Inputs.io?

You confuse being able to develop software with running a Foundation or a business.  Those are completely different things and just because someone writes some code does not mean they know anything else.  Look at Vitalik Buterin.  He can code but he also claims that 90% of the people in the world do no work and that in the future that number will rise to 99% so almost no one will have to work.  I guess he got that from watching that movie "Time Machine" but I am certainly am not going to listen that nonsense just because he can write code.

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October 21, 2014, 01:20:11 PM
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The only official site is created by the main developer or satoshi nakamoto  Grin
But, some people don't care about official bitcoin site

But i think people need good webiste about bitcoin (bitcoin.org / bitcoin.com / bitcointalk.org) where there are lot people together  Grin

They probably have good intentions.  If they wanted to make a quick buck they would just sell the domain

So, they claimed to be official site & sell the domain for some fiat

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October 21, 2014, 01:30:29 PM
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Most people won't care. We know that it's not official and is nor representative of us.

Most people won't know.  Not sure what you mean by "us" since Bitcoin is open source and decentralized anyone can use it.

The site decides which wallets and services get listed.  the site is directed at new users who don't know about Bitcoin.  
Yes,Maybe someone don't know bitcoin well now,but it 's not a problem in a few years,by that time ,bitcoin will be very porpular and it's not a question for them.like that we all know "internet" is not a company.

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October 21, 2014, 01:44:55 PM
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Official or not, it is the only place I trust to download the Bitcoin core new versions. I think the lead Bitcoin developers updating the Bitcoin.org, thus official could be appropriate
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October 21, 2014, 02:14:59 PM
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Official or not, it is the only place I trust to download the Bitcoin core new versions. I think the lead Bitcoin developers updating the Bitcoin.org, thus official could be appropriate

yes, that was the old DMOZ description which is what the site used to be before is started being morphed:

Bitcoin-QT - The official bitcoin client

http://www.dmoz.org/search?q=bitcoin.org

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October 21, 2014, 02:47:30 PM
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So, they claimed to be official site & sell the domain for some fiat

Not cool. That is another problem about bitcoin. There is no governing body that determines who is the official this and the official that.
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October 21, 2014, 03:08:20 PM
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The website is definitelyone of the best, if not the best, if you have no idea what a Bitcoin is, and you are just getting started. I don't really think it matters if people are referring to it as the official website. It doesn't have anything that is harmful to Bitcoin or the community
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October 21, 2014, 03:17:35 PM
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The only official site is created by the main developer or satoshi nakamoto  Grin
But, some people don't care about official bitcoin site

But i think people need good webiste about bitcoin (bitcoin.org / bitcoin.com / bitcointalk.org) where there are lot people together  Grin

They probably have good intentions.  If they wanted to make a quick buck they would just sell the domain

So, they claimed to be official site & sell the domain for some fiat

What happens when the owners die and their heirs get control?

In any case the issue is resolved and the new description is on Google:

"Bitcoin is an innovative payment network and a new kind of money. Find all you need to know and get started with Bitcoin on bitcoin.org." 

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October 21, 2014, 03:24:50 PM
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Really ? so Bitcoin.org isn't official ? we can't trust anything there  Shocked
I thought that website + this forum was made by Satoshi him self  Angry
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October 21, 2014, 03:29:16 PM
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Really ? so Bitcoin.org isn't official ? we can't trust anything there  Shocked
I thought that website + this forum was made by Satoshi him self  Angry

Do you automatically trust people you don't know because they write code? 

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October 21, 2014, 03:44:36 PM
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Really ? so Bitcoin.org isn't official ? we can't trust anything there  Shocked
I thought that website + this forum was made by Satoshi him self  Angry

Do you automatically trust people you don't know because they write code? 

Well no , of course not. but I thought it was made by Satochi ... so Yeah I would automatically trust him (if it was him)  Embarrassed
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October 21, 2014, 03:53:27 PM
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I think the core developers sorted the issue with their replies on the reddit post.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2js78h/bitcoinorg_now_claiming_to_be_the_official_site/

A couple Foundation employees played tag team to try to smooth things over in reddit.  Prior to this the education committee claimed their content was developed in a "decentralized" manner which they also agreed to change once I complained.  Plus there were those times when they claimed they represent all Bitcoin users and they said they would change their tune and state they only represent their users. 

In any case the latest claim here is that the info came from Google.  They updated the site description but it is not changed in Google yet so it is not yet resolved even though they closed the issue.

Squeaking wheel gets the grease, way to go girl.  Wink

But in fact Bitcoin is run by a small group of people IMO, that decide things like how the blockchain works.  Of course they will claim it's a democracy but in fact it is not, nor should it be.  The people who put the hard work in coding get to call the shots as to how bitcoin will work.  Most of them post here so unofficially this is the official site.  Offtopic:  I am looking forward to making bitcoin more anonymous, possibly with 'automatic mixing' of coins along the lines suggested by darkcoin.  I think the Powers That Be are also onto this.

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October 21, 2014, 04:46:03 PM
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But in fact Bitcoin is run by a small group of people IMO, that decide things like how the blockchain works.  Of course they will claim it's a democracy but in fact it is not, nor should it be.  The people who put the hard work in coding get to call the shots as to how bitcoin will work.  Most of them post here so unofficially this is the official site. 

Yes, but if they want their holding to be more valuable they are forced to allow others in.  What good is a developer's coin if nobody uses it?  I think most of the people involved have worked on software projects in small groups and dealing with large numbers of people/ideas is out of the normal things they do.  You can tell when they try to shoehorn everything into Github and IRC chat.

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October 22, 2014, 01:17:42 AM
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I think there is no need making a official site for Bitcoin.
It's nonsense!
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