Esoteric Investments, LLC (up to 1% earnings)

[Puppet]

Genius trader that found secret way to grow capital nearly  10x faster than Bernie Madoff.
Lives in moms basement and hesitant to shell out $200 for cloudflare

[sunny1]

Website is down... Did they pull the plug already?

Performing server upgrades. We aren't out yet.

Bad communication!!!

Can't you post a message a bit earlier, if there are any issues, like server upgrades, mitigating DDoS attacks etc.

[rammy2k2]

Genius trader that found secret way to grow capital nearly  10x faster than Bernie Madoff.
Lives in moms basement and hesitant to shell out $200 for cloudflare

ROFL

[rammy2k2]

Website is down... Did they pull the plug already?

Performing server upgrades. We aren't out yet.

notice the "YET"

[Illutian]

lawl, is this why my Oct. 27th withdraw still hasn't been credited to my wallet? 

((Good thing I only put in 0.25 BTC))

[rammy2k2]

lawl, is this why my Oct. 27th withdraw still hasn't been credited to my wallet? 

((Good thing I only put in 0.25 BTC))

only ? why would u send money to some scammers ? if u get burned i wont feel sorry for u

[Digicoinz]

The site will be back in full swing!

Glenn informed me today:

"we are setting up a private server for our current clients atm
this will allow us to operate the login section of the site independantly from the main site
our primary focus is to get a system in place for our current active members and continue daily operations (trading)
we discussed last night and concluded there is not going to be a simple bandaid fix short of investing in upgrades to the infastructure of the front end heavily which at this time we decided to hold off on. For this purpose we are setting up a private server that will only be accessible to current active members. We shall continue to post results on this private server until a public solution is in place.
as such the affiliate section shall also be placed offline until the public solution is in place."

[Phantom Trader]

lawl, is this why my Oct. 27th withdraw still hasn't been credited to my wallet? 

((Good thing I only put in 0.25 BTC))

Private message me the wallet you used for this withdrawal along with your username or account name if you can so we can look at our records. Our withdrawals should all be up to date unless they happened after Friday when the site was experiencing problems from the attacks. So I need to see if you or us had put in a wrong wallet address or some other error may have occurred.

And yes that is the direction we are going in. We will be going to a private undisclosed non public server. If you are a current client with any sort of bitcoin deposit you will be given access, those with no bitcoin in their accounts have no need for the site and will not be given access. Also at this point new clients and further bitcoin deposits will not be accepted.

[Illutian]

lawl, is this why my Oct. 27th withdraw still hasn't been credited to my wallet? 

((Good thing I only put in 0.25 BTC))

only ? why would u send money to some scammers ? if u get burned i wont feel sorry for u

Oh, no no, I put .25 BTC to test things out because why not; it's under $100.

My goal is to get in and get out before the project closes down. 

[1RuneKing]

lawl, is this why my Oct. 27th withdraw still hasn't been credited to my wallet? 

((Good thing I only put in 0.25 BTC))

only ? why would u send money to some scammers ? if u get burned i wont feel sorry for u

Oh, no no, I put .25 BTC to test things out because why not; it's under $100.

My goal is to get in and get out before the project closes down. 

Not a project, and won't close down.
I put in .22 when it started (was about $100) and been happy. All in all these are good guys and have found a way to help people that works.
Pity they are being attacked the way they are.

[pinnchen]

lawl, is this why my Oct. 27th withdraw still hasn't been credited to my wallet? 

((Good thing I only put in 0.25 BTC))

only ? why would u send money to some scammers ? if u get burned i wont feel sorry for u

Oh, no no, I put .25 BTC to test things out because why not; it's under $100.

My goal is to get in and get out before the project closes down. 

Not a project, and won't close down.
I put in .22 when it started (was about $100) and been happy. All in all these are good guys and have found a way to help people that works.
Pity they are being attacked the way they are.

rofl ... nice try

[1RuneKing]

lawl, is this why my Oct. 27th withdraw still hasn't been credited to my wallet? 

((Good thing I only put in 0.25 BTC))

only ? why would u send money to some scammers ? if u get burned i wont feel sorry for u

Oh, no no, I put .25 BTC to test things out because why not; it's under $100.

My goal is to get in and get out before the project closes down. 

Not a project, and won't close down.
I put in .22 when it started (was about $100) and been happy. All in all these are good guys and have found a way to help people that works.
Pity they are being attacked the way they are.

rofl ... nice try

Whatever, don't believe me, just means I'll get to enjoy the returns and you won't

[nutildah]

lawl, is this why my Oct. 27th withdraw still hasn't been credited to my wallet? 

((Good thing I only put in 0.25 BTC))

You don't deserve to have any money if you spent it on these fools.

[Phantom Trader]

We'll start sending out emails to clients with how to get to the private server tomorrow in the evening. We will not send out emails to every client all at once. We may choose to do it over the course of the week.

Thank you in advance for your patience.

[roparker2014]

So this one didn't last very long then? Site seems to be down already.

Always seemed like it existed purely to mop up the hardcore believers, hanging on after the death of Bitcoin-trader.biz, those who are certain that it MUST be possible to get rich quick through HYIPs, if only they can find the right one...

[1RuneKing]

So this one didn't last very long then? Site seems to be down already.

Always seemed like it existed purely to mop up the hardcore believers, hanging on after the death of Bitcoin-trader.biz, those who are certain that it MUST be possible to get rich quick through HYIPs, if only they can find the right one...

Did you not read this?

We'll start sending out emails to clients with how to get to the private server tomorrow in the evening. We will not send out emails to every client all at once. We may choose to do it over the course of the week.

Thank you in advance for your patience.

Or these?

The site will be back in full swing!

Glenn informed me today:

"we are setting up a private server for our current clients atm
this will allow us to operate the login section of the site independantly from the main site
our primary focus is to get a system in place for our current active members and continue daily operations (trading)
we discussed last night and concluded there is not going to be a simple bandaid fix short of investing in upgrades to the infastructure of the front end heavily which at this time we decided to hold off on. For this purpose we are setting up a private server that will only be accessible to current active members. We shall continue to post results on this private server until a public solution is in place.
as such the affiliate section shall also be placed offline until the public solution is in place."

And yes that is the direction we are going in. We will be going to a private undisclosed non public server. If you are a current client with any sort of bitcoin deposit you will be given access, those with no bitcoin in their accounts have no need for the site and will not be given access. Also at this point new clients and further bitcoin deposits will not be accepted.

Time for round 2.

We are experiencing attacks from a known ddos group called dd4bc they attacked nitrogen sports a bitcoin sports betting site in the past.  http://www.bitcoingg.com/nitrogen-sports-remains-resilient-amid-attacks-due-to-blackmails-extortions/  

As nitrogen sports has gotten past their attacks we shall as well.

Take this message as a warning the site may go down several times for the next few days while defenses are put in place to mitigate all of their attacks. All personal information is safe and secured they haven't made any attempts to hack us. Just shut down our servers.

However if a hack is attempted successfully we will send out emails to members to make them aware of what data, if any, of theirs may have been taken. Most personal data like passwords is hashed and salted so this shouldn't become a major issue even if a hack is successfully performed.

They're being targeted and DDos'd and are trying to get around it.

[1RuneKing]

You'd have to be an idiot to spend any money on these fucking god awful liars. What the fuck's wrong with you morons?

You clearly have way too much money on your hands if you are even entertaining giving these frauds your BTC.

*sigh*


I have no problem with you insulting me.... But don't you dare insult Glenn and Dan.

You do not insult people whom I consider friends, and you do not insult their hardwork. DO I MAKE MYSELF CLEAR?

But seriously, things need to calm to frack down... If you don;t want to invest money with Eso that's fine. But we are still on the same team. Who is our real enemy? The governments who are trying to pin down Bitcoin and crypto and kill it so that it's not a competitor to their fiat currencies.

Fiat currency is the real culprit, the real ponzi. Look up Mike Maloney's "The Biggest Scam in History" on YouTube, he explains ti nicely. Fiat currencies steal our wealth, Bitcoin doesn't.

[Puppet]

[roparker2014]

You'd have to be an idiot to spend any money on these fucking god awful liars. What the fuck's wrong with you morons?

You clearly have way too much money on your hands if you are even entertaining giving these frauds your BTC.

*sigh*


I have no problem with you insulting me.... But don't you dare insult Glenn and Dan.

You do not insult people whom I consider friends, and you do not insult their hardwork. DO I MAKE MYSELF CLEAR?

But seriously, things need to calm to frack down... If you don;t want to invest money with Eso that's fine. But we are still on the same team. Who is our real enemy? The governments who are trying to pin down Bitcoin and crypto and kill it so that it's not a competitor to their fiat currencies.

Fiat currency is the real culprit, the real ponzi. Look up Mike Maloney's "The Biggest Scam in History" on YouTube, he explains ti nicely. Fiat currencies steal our wealth, Bitcoin doesn't.

But no one here is saying that Bitcoin is going to steal our wealth - they are saying that esoteric investments is (if we are silly enough to give it to them).

Every one of these schemes gets defended by people saying "There's no evidence it's a scam." Of course there isn't, until they run off with the money.
If you get lucky you can make a bit of money, if you get in and out quick. New scams like this appear every day - this one just got our attention because they take Bitcoin. Most of them disappear after a few days or a few weeks. Bitcoin-trader lasted an exceptionally long time, due to the confidence they built up in the Bitcoin community with their marketing activities. Esoteric is clearly hoping enough of that confidence is left (there still seems to be some, amazingly, judging by the talk in the bitcoin-trader thread). The thing to remember is there is nothing to suggest esoteric will last anything like as long as bitcoin-trader did though, because most of that "confidence" has clearly evaporated.

[Illutian]

You'd have to be an idiot to spend any money on these fucking god awful liars. What the fuck's wrong with you morons?

You clearly have way too much money on your hands if you are even entertaining giving these frauds your BTC.

*sigh*


I have no problem with you insulting me.... But don't you dare insult Glenn and Dan.

You do not insult people whom I consider friends, and you do not insult their hardwork. DO I MAKE MYSELF CLEAR?

But seriously, things need to calm to frack down... If you don;t want to invest money with Eso that's fine. But we are still on the same team. Who is our real enemy? The governments who are trying to pin down Bitcoin and crypto and kill it so that it's not a competitor to their fiat currencies.

Fiat currency is the real culprit, the real ponzi. Look up Mike Maloney's "The Biggest Scam in History" on YouTube, he explains ti nicely. Fiat currencies steal our wealth, Bitcoin doesn't.

But no one here is saying that Bitcoin is going to steal our wealth - they are saying that esoteric investments is (if we are silly enough to give it to them).

Every one of these schemes gets defended by people saying "There's no evidence it's a scam." Of course there isn't, until they run off with the money.
If you get lucky you can make a bit of money, if you get in and out quick. New scams like this appear every day - this one just got our attention because they take Bitcoin. Most of them disappear after a few days or a few weeks. Bitcoin-trader lasted an exceptionally long time, due to the confidence they built up in the Bitcoin community with their marketing activities. Esoteric is clearly hoping enough of that confidence is left (there still seems to be some, amazingly, judging by the talk in the bitcoin-trader thread). The thing to remember is there is nothing to suggest esoteric will last anything like as long as bitcoin-trader did though, because most of that "confidence" has clearly evaporated.

What are you talking about!? I still fully believe I will make money on my 0.25BTC