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October 21, 2014, 11:11:00 PM
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Howdy,

Felt the need to introduce myself to the Marketplace since a lot of identity issues are in crypto.
Bittrex has built its membership to a well recognized level and adding a new member can be scary.
Name is Matthew Williams and I live in Texas., I say howdy a lot and I can't stop it.

I am the guy to come to if you want to confirm legitimacy of an altcoin and/or want to conduct meetings on why your coin has potential.
I will be investigating among the alt-coin community and so expect me to be prominent in different areas of crypto.

This thread will be moderated and is intended for people to ask questions about who I am and to better define my job description publicly.

If this gets out of hand, (crosses fingers) then it will be shut down without warning. Please understand why that might be.


Thank you for your time and I hope to see growth for all of crypto during my stay at Bittrex!

Here's my twitter : https://twitter.com/EsthiemDota

And my Email : bittrex-matthew@outlook.com



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October 21, 2014, 11:15:31 PM
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Howdy,

Felt the need to introduce myself to the Marketplace since a lot of identity issues are in crypto.
Bittrex has built its membership to a well recognized level and adding a new member can be scary.
Name is Matthew Williams and I live in Texas., I say howdy a lot and I can't stop it.

I am the guy to come to if you want to confirm legitimacy of an altcoin and/or want to conduct meetings on why your coin has potential.
I will be investigating among the alt-coin community and so expect me to be prominent in different areas of crypto.

This thread will be moderated and is intended for people to ask questions about who I am and to better define my job description publicly.

If this gets out of hand, (crosses fingers) then it will be shut down without warning. Please understand why that might be.


Thank you for your time and I hope to see growth for all of crypto during my stay at Bittrex!

Here's my twitter : https://twitter.com/EsthiemDota

And my Email : bittrex-matthew@outlook.com
Please publicly post a link of this thread from your Twitter account to ensure you are what you say you are, and post the link of the tweet in this thread.
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October 21, 2014, 11:19:17 PM
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Please publicly post a link of this thread from your Twitter account to ensure you are what you say you are, and post the link of the tweet in this thread.

Proof:
https://twitter.com/EsthiemDota/status/524701323589996544

https://twitter.com/EsthiemDota/status/524387324423979008
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October 22, 2014, 10:00:34 AM
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Howdy,

Felt the need to introduce myself to the Marketplace since a lot of identity issues are in crypto.
Bittrex has built its membership to a well recognized level and adding a new member can be scary.
Name is Matthew Williams and I live in Texas., I say howdy a lot and I can't stop it.

(1) I am the guy to come to if you want to confirm legitimacy of an altcoin and/or (2) want to conduct meetings on why your coin has potential.
(3) I will be investigating among the alt-coin community and so expect me to be prominent in different areas of crypto.

(4) This thread will be moderated and (5) is intended for people to ask questions about who I am and to better define my job description publicly.

If this gets out of hand, (crosses fingers) then it will be shut down without warning. Please understand why that might be.


Thank you for your time and I hope to see growth for all of crypto during my stay at Bittrex!

Here's my twitter : https://twitter.com/EsthiemDota

And my Email : bittrex-matthew@outlook.com





1. What do you mean by "to confirm legitimacy of an altcoin"? What level of due diligence will you be performing? Will it be limited to the technical side, or will your efforts encompass the entire spectrum from developers to commercial claims. What are the fees? Is it a community service?

2. Does everyone need to hold meeting/s with you prior to publicly stating that their coin has 'potential'?

3. What will be the focus of your investigation, if you don't mind me asking?

4. This thread is, unfortunately, not moderated.

5. Will you share a little bit more about yourself, Mr. Williams, especially your prior experience in cryptocurrency?

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October 22, 2014, 05:19:11 PM
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1. Whether it be the case of combing the github to make sure the network does what it says it does, or going out to Phoenix, AZ to check out the CANN dev's operation. I won't believe just words on a forum post. It is a community service Bittrex will provide.

2. Bittrex has and will continue to step up the process to add coins, if you have a presentation to an under represented market, I would love to hear about it.

3. A multitude of things that Bittrex finds relevant to boost the crypto economy as a whole.

4. Moderated in a sense of me surveying it carefully. I am sorry for the confusion.

5. I've been in Crypto longer than most people that lurk in IRC or forums. My first trade was buying ~2000 BTC for $250 then I sold them for a $150 profit. I never want to make that mistake again even though at the time that was good profit. I mined on my laptop when CPU mining was the only available option and made about 10BTC which I lost the private keys to. Started just interested in the idea, but grew to a trust when I realized Crypto could be a global infrastructure for trade. Been trading alts since December 2013 and I enjoyed that ride, but now its time to buckle down and give my part to help Crypto rather than sit on the sidelines.
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October 22, 2014, 05:21:28 PM
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I am the guy to come to if you want to confirm legitimacy of an altcoin

Sadly, the act of making that particular hollow claim effectively disqualifies you from the role. The claim is hollow for two reasons - firstly, confirmation is impractical because there is no widely-agreed definition of “legitimate” and secondly, confirmation is impractical because you have no special powers that confer authority upon your assessment.

Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, welcome to bitcointalk Smiley

Cheers

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October 22, 2014, 05:34:30 PM
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I am the guy to come to if you want to confirm legitimacy of an altcoin

Sadly, the act of making that particular hollow claim effectively disqualifies you from the role. The claim is hollow for two reasons - firstly, confirmation is impractical because there is no widely-agreed definition of “legitimate” and secondly, confirmation is impractical because you have no special powers that confer authority upon your assessment.

Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, welcome to bitcointalk Smiley

Cheers

Graham


The goal is to give the public notice that we are trying to narrow down the coins we see as successful and maintain a tighter library of altcoins on our exchange.
Legitimate is defined as "real, accepted, or official".
We aim to make sure the altcoin does its job as advertised and not just smoke and mirrors.
I am sorry you felt as if I was trying to be a all powerful authority figure.
You must know Bittrex has no intention to be extremists in any fashion.

This is just the beginning of BCT I assume.
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October 23, 2014, 10:43:57 AM
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Matthew,

The goal is to give the public notice that we are trying to narrow down the coins we see as successful and maintain a tighter library of altcoins on our exchange.

Many companies employ staff to effect public relations on their behalf - for exactly the commercial reasons you reference above. It's generous of you to share your information with the community but I think we should be quite clear that it is Bittrex who is the primary beneficiary of this activity, not “the public”.

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Legitimate is defined as "real, accepted, or official".

That's very much a step in the wrong direction, we've now got three more nebulous concepts to disagree about.

I wasn't clear enough in the first place - my point is that you don't have an operational definition of legitimacy which would give you reliable, consistent and objective criteria to apply. Without reliability, consistency and objectivity, all you can do is argue for things the way you see them personally, subjectively and arbitrarily. If you can't state in advance who will get a visit and who won't, how can a coin dev team arrange matters so that Bittrex standards are met? The $64k question is will Bittrex be publishing the details of its standards? (I can't seem to find any information on the website about the current process, so any movement at all there would be welcome.)

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We aim to make sure the altcoin does its job as advertised and not just smoke and mirrors.

As a candidate standard: “its job as advertised” is fatally flawed, infeasible to operationalise. You'll need to re-think that one. Advertised where and by whom? What counts as a statement of fact vs a statement of belief? Does your definition of “advertising” include individuals' posts on Bitcointalk? Cryptocointalk? Reddit? FB? HN? In a medium where pseudonyms are the rule rather than the exception, how do you intend to be able to canonically distinguish between a party who has authority to make promissory or factual assertions about the coin and one who has not? Is Bittrex now going to insist that in order for a coin to be listed on their exchange, the devs/dev teams must be personally and individually identifiable to Bittrex staff?

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I am sorry you felt as if I was trying to be a all powerful authority figure.

I simply went by what you wrote: “I am the guy to come to if you want to confirm legitimacy of an altcoin ...  I will be investigating among the alt-coin community”. If it walks like a duck, swims like a duck, etc. But, I acknowledge that I made no allowance for you being a Texan and sounding like a newly-appointed sheriff might just be a cultural thing. I'd have preferred to have read something along the lines of “We want to help community members make more informed assessments of the risks so I intend to provide more detailed and more extensive information, including information gained from our own efforts after diligence.”

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You must know Bittrex has no intention to be extremists in any fashion.
wat? Where'd you get that from? I'm trying to alert you to the fact that you've got the job of cleaning the Augean stables and all you've got by way of equipment is one of those little packs of face wipes. Without a sharp tool, you'll struggle to make any sort of an impact.

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This is just the beginning of BCT I assume.

Just another manifestation of the free market. I am trying to be constructive but I've found that if I don't make my points forcefully, they get drowned in the noise and I end up wasting my efforts.

Cheers

Graham
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October 25, 2014, 02:41:43 AM
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Initially it felt as if you were just pointing out the obvious, but now I understand the constructive criticism.

I try not to be ambiguous by definition of legitimate or anything of the sort. The goal is to cut the fat in the altcoin community. Providing an environment for trade improves the lives for all, we want to set the bar for others to follow.

Thank you for noticing about the astronomical task at hand I have on my plate.

Sorry for the verbal confusion.
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