Sodom is Provoked, an Altcoin Tale; INSIDE NXT and jl777

[Daedelus]

Im not concerned about my reputation with liars and criminals, which is what you are.

Yes of course you are not, Joshua Zeidner aka bluemeanie1 sold his account in June. Now stop hiding behind a account and show your face Monero kids

Can you prove this? I have only seen this as an accusation, I like to see proof of claims.


If you only repeat accusations hoping they will stick without providing any proof then you join the ranks of Bluemeanie. Not a good place to be.

Basic logic is the proof of this if you can't see this, its not my problem. Its a fact that bluemeanie1 is moneroman88.. and if you wasn't around where he spammed the whole Altcoin forum then you need to do some research.

I saw the live post of Moneroman posting as Josh before he deleted it. I was in the thread and following at the time as he was doxxing the single mother, trying to get her fired, I referred to above.


You make claims and then push the burden of proof onto others to 'do more research'. Why not provide some evidence? Otherwise,


"Stealthcoin is a sockpuppet of bluemeanie, trying to deflect culpability for his actions. Basic logic is the proof, if you can't see this it's not my problem. It is a fact. Do some research."

  (that is a very BM thing to say btw...)


Why do you think the bluemeanie account was ever up for sale? Isn't it much more logical that Bluemeanie came first and created the moneroman sockpuppet later to troll all threads? This explanation doesn't require any sale of accounts and fits the facts we know about BM and Moneroman being linked.

This is much more logical, unless you have any other evidence to provide?

[Daedelus]

It is one of my strategic way to let Trolls/Shills waste time, once they do, then i'll know they could be legit people with no agenda.
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You will need to dig deeper to see this.

Why waste time and treat people differently, agenda or not? Good evidence speaks for itself. It makes more sense to lay your evidence out, point by point, and let everyone evaluate it in the open together. Stalling makes it look like you have none.

I agree the evidence shows Bluemeanie == Moneroman but it takes another huge leap to then say that Moneroman bought the BM account if there is no evidence. Until you present some, there is the same amount of evidence that the BM account was presented to Moneroman by benevolent aliens or won it in a lottery hosted by Miley Cyrus. Why should anyone believe these claims without evidence?



From the evidence we do have it is much more likely that BM and Moneroman are, and have always been, the same person > Joshua Zeidner

[EvilDave]

a quote:

Within hours jl777 had mobilized the entire NXT media machine against me- the phrase "bluemeanie stole 1 million nxt" is just one of many attempts and that was the one that stuck, because there was a corresponding transaction that would appear would implicate me in what they call a "theft", however no money was ever coerced from anyone.  As matter of fact I have never had any dealings with any of these people who are bringing charges up against me.  I have never sold them anything, never sold them assets, nothing.  This fairly sophisticated media machine is how NXT keeps their price afloat.  The project has no real talent or technical merit and most people know this, but their targets are the clueless and hapless.

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LOL......"fairly sophisticated media machine" ....you are utterly delusional, Joshua.

BTW: "Sodom is provoked"...you're really getting into that Biblical imagery, eh?

[EvilDave]

from reading your post

summary:
NXT is a scam, and not to throw valuable bitcoins or time at it.

well most know this already but thanks for explaining it to the uninformed.

You are a well-known bitcoin zealot but I warn you against cooperating with Joshua Zeidner aka BlueMeanie. He was kicked off Open Transactions, failed to deliver for Peerunity, was the only person banned on Ethereum forum and scammed Nxt community. Think twice if you really want to be associated with BlueMeanie even if he is an enemy of your enemy...

BM seems to be the enemy of everyone:
BlueMeanies Enemies list

and heres his story:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=103159

[Febo]

bluemeanie1 account was bought by Moneroman88 he is a front man of Monero to destroy coins reputation they done this with all like Darkcoin,Blackcoin and Cloakcoin.

Corruption is everywhere and it seems crypto doesn't help against this.

Who is frontman of Monero?
I suggest you to go check Monero thread OP.


Monero developers dont care much of any coins, nor Darkcoin, nor Blackcoin nor Cloak coin nor NXT.



But i see much difference from you. You try to find any post on this forum and try to FUD Monero in any post there is. Also in posts that Moneroman88 was trolling on this forum. Why you do it is total mystery to me.

To me is link you with Moneroman88 much easier then link bluemeanie1 with Moneroman88.  If i check post history of you two.


Now you explain a bit more detailed how you got to your conclusions please.

[Febo]

bluemeanie1 account was bought by Moneroman88 he is a front man of Monero to destroy coins reputation they done this with all like Darkcoin,Blackcoin and Cloakcoin.

Corruption is everywhere and it seems crypto doesn't help against this.

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To me is link you with Moneroman88 much easier then link bluemeanie1 with Moneroman88.  If i check post history of you two.

To bad that bluemeanie1 already made the mistake to tell that he was Moneroman88, but ask yourself why he tried to delete this so quickly.

I have nothing to hide i just research why the Altcoin section on "this" forum is the only one with huge amount of FUD and SHILLs

But he dont act at all like it. Moneroman88 was FUDing Monero everywhere he could make 5 new threads and get army of alts posting few seconds after him FUDing Monero even more. He forced fight with BCX ( or they were together and make it look like they fight). I never saw him talk against NXT.
Same as i dont see Bluemeanie1 ever talk against Monero.  So the point of why accounts was made, is missed here. Their actions dont link them. One of them could try to make some action to forum community think they are linked. But i see their actions shows us they dont.

[cassius69]

jl777 is one sketchy dude.

[bluemeanie1]

from reading your post

summary:
NXT is a scam, and not to throw valuable bitcoins or time at it.

well most know this already but thanks for explaining it to the uninformed.

You are a well-known bitcoin zealot but I warn you against cooperating with Joshua Zeidner aka BlueMeanie. He was kicked off Open Transactions, failed to deliver for Peerunity, was the only person banned on Ethereum forum and scammed Nxt community. Think twice if you really want to be associated with BlueMeanie even if he is an enemy of your enemy...

BM seems to be the enemy of everyone:

no I just have higher standards than most of the criminals who operate in this space such as yourself.

what are you doing here?  aren't you a motorcycle mechanic?

[rdnkjdi]

from reading your post

summary:
NXT is a scam, and not to throw valuable bitcoins or time at it.

well most know this already but thanks for explaining it to the uninformed.

You are a well-known bitcoin zealot but I warn you against cooperating with Joshua Zeidner aka BlueMeanie. He was kicked off Open Transactions, failed to deliver for Peerunity, was the only person banned on Ethereum forum and scammed Nxt community. Think twice if you really want to be associated with BlueMeanie even if he is an enemy of your enemy...

why was he banned from ethereum?

[cassius69]

from reading your post

summary:
NXT is a scam, and not to throw valuable bitcoins or time at it.

well most know this already but thanks for explaining it to the uninformed.

You are a well-known bitcoin zealot but I warn you against cooperating with Joshua Zeidner aka BlueMeanie. He was kicked off Open Transactions, failed to deliver for Peerunity, was the only person banned on Ethereum forum and scammed Nxt community. Think twice if you really want to be associated with BlueMeanie even if he is an enemy of your enemy...

only trolls talk like this ^^^^

[EvilDave]

no I just have higher standards than most of the criminals who operate in this space such as yourself.

what are you doing here?  aren't you a motorcycle mechanic?

Yep, I got more than a few skills. Though currently, I'm working on a restoration project for an E-type Jaguar, so not very bikery right now.

But, hey, back to you, Josh:
I chose the word 'delusional' very carefully, in relation to you.

Heres a fun-filled quote about me from your piece:

At this point I was to learn a lot about how some of these altcoin projects work.  Most of the participants are petty criminals, people who I never really even liked to read on the forums, didn't interact with at all, and had no relation to whatsoever suddenly were coming after me extorting me for money.  Dave Pearce of Amsterdam(Pearce Motorcycle Services) who goes by the name EvilDave is one such character.  It appears his job is to either pump up the coin(probably has a number of accounts) or extort people and do general dirty work for the project 'whales'(which jl777 is).  Once I began to identify him and expose his real world identity, his extortions seem to die down, unfortunately it continues on bitcointalk.org with anonymous accounts(who may be operated by EvilDave)."

I stopped counting the lies in the above after 8......could probably squeeze another 1 or 2 our of it.

BTW: The word you need is libellous, Joshua, not slanderous.

You've heard the slanderous accusations no doubt.

And, as usual, you are the one committing libel, not myself.
How's your lawyer coming on, btw ?





 

[cexylikepie]

from reading your post

summary:
NXT is a scam, and not to throw valuable bitcoins or time at it.

well most know this already but thanks for explaining it to the uninformed.

You are a well-known bitcoin zealot but I warn you against cooperating with Joshua Zeidner aka BlueMeanie. He was kicked off Open Transactions, failed to deliver for Peerunity, was the only person banned on Ethereum forum and scammed Nxt community. Think twice if you really want to be associated with BlueMeanie even if he is an enemy of your enemy...

BM seems to be the enemy of everyone:

no I just have higher standards than most of the criminals who operate in this space such as yourself.

what are you doing here?  aren't you a motorcycle mechanic?

what is the point of what you're doin? does it make you happy?

[nutildah]

from reading your post

summary:
NXT is a scam, and not to throw valuable bitcoins or time at it.

well most know this already but thanks for explaining it to the uninformed.

the irony is palpable.

To me is link you with Moneroman88 much easier then link bluemeanie1 with Moneroman88.  If i check post history of you two.

You're not trying nearly hard enough.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=809637

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=809466.msg9070742#msg9070742

[nutildah]

Would be stupid if he would use the same tactic with his other accounts. One think you need to consider is why Bitcointalk let him do this...

OK, I'm pretty certain this is also BlueMeanie now. Check this out:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=820195.msg9166910#msg9166910

[nutildah]

Would be stupid if he would use the same tactic with his other accounts. One think you need to consider is why Bitcointalk let him do this...

OK, I'm pretty certain this is also BlueMeanie now. Check this out:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=820195.msg9166910#msg9166910

don't tell me you didn't find this funny

I did, but in hindsight it makes it seem like there's a good chance you are BlueMeanie.

[nutildah]

Well, if you are smart you would check the writing and you will always see that my writing skills are epic and no one could copy them in any way. (I'm not english)

BlueMeanie is an American. Josh Zeidner who currently resides in Phoenix, AZ. Its really easy to pretend to be dumber than you actually are. That's what BM sock Moneroman88 was.

[nutildah]

Then you still think that you can hide behind a account without knowing who someone is.

Writing in different lines wont change how you write its almost as a handwriting, but i seems you never looked that deep into this.

So, he could just be pretending his English is bad or that he is mental.. no stretch of the imagination there.

[Come-from-Beyond]

Keep trolling i don't care anyway
I've seen the jobs XMR were doing and it was not pretty....

You don't get what he is saying.

@nutildah:
Type more slowly, Stealthcoin said he was not English, maybe he can't read that fast.

[NoNxt4me]

Seriously though.. everyone should read this article.. what idiots.. they sent you a million Nxt just so they could call you a thief.  In my opinion totally worth it..  ka-ching!!

You get em Josh!


I like to think of Mr Zeidner as the Paul Krugman of Nxt.. exposing them for what they really are
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/30/paul-krugman-bitcoin_n_4518979.html

[nutildah]

Seriously though.. everyone should read this article.. what idiots.. they sent you a million Nxt just so they could call you a thief.  In my opinion totally worth it..  ka-ching!!

You get em Josh!

Wow, yet another BlueMeanie sockpuppet.

You do realize that if you were somebody whose words meant anything, you would have posted this comment under your original account name, right?

We do.