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October 25, 2014, 09:35:23 AM
Last edit: October 25, 2014, 09:47:18 AM by firewire2013
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Thankyou all for replying

Ok, it looks like there is some debate on what better, server PSU or ATX PSU. I can’t find any Watt readings at the wall for server PSU on YouTube, just ATX PSU so I don’t really have much to go from in form of statistics.
 
In the UK electric is no cheap and even though an AXT PSU costs £70-80 more, over the duration of its use, I’m thinking the usage will be lower.

What about a pair of 1000W EVGA SuperNova G2 Full-Modular 80 PLUS Gold ATX-PSU. Looking at the picture it has 8 slots for power.

Am I correct in saying, use the VGA and CPU slots Huh do they provide the same power output

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I have 2 of these psu-s running 4 S3 overclocked with no problem.

They can handle 5 for sure. I wasn't able to connect 5 because I've used them for S2-s and didn't soldered enough cables on them.
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I have 2 of these psu-s running 4 S3 overclocked with no problem.

They can handle 5 for sure. I wasn't able to connect 5 because I've used them for S2-s and didn't soldered enough cables on them.


So you have 4200Watts running 4x S3 units?

or 8 units 4 on each one?

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I have 2 of these psu-s running 4 S3 overclocked with no problem.

They can handle 5 for sure. I wasn't able to connect 5 because I've used them for S2-s and didn't soldered enough cables on them.


So you have 4200Watts running 4x S3 units?

or 8 units 4 on each one?


4 on each one.
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October 25, 2014, 10:19:07 AM
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I have 2 of these psu-s running 4 S3 overclocked with no problem.

They can handle 5 for sure. I wasn't able to connect 5 because I've used them for S2-s and didn't soldered enough cables on them.


So you have 4200Watts running 4x S3 units?

or 8 units 4 on each one?


4 on each one.

Please provide watt usage at the wall and a picture of setup, would really help

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I have 2 of these psu-s running 4 S3 overclocked with no problem.

They can handle 5 for sure. I wasn't able to connect 5 because I've used them for S2-s and didn't soldered enough cables on them.


So you have 4200Watts running 4x S3 units?

or 8 units 4 on each one?


4 on each one.

Please provide watt usage at the wall and a picture of setup, would really help

I'm not running them at home. They are built in at my mining place.

I can take some photos but only when I clean them in the near future.
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October 25, 2014, 10:37:39 AM
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Hello

So I have 4 x S3 miners coming next week and I’m just about to buy the power supplies. I was thinking two Corsair HX850 (850Watts), only snag is they have 6xPCI-E 6 connecters and the miners take four each. Would like to over clock them abit and concerned the wire will heat up to much.
http://www.corsair.com/en-gb/psus/hx-series

I know they can run on 2, I’m wondering if I could connect three to each miner or will it only work in arrangements of 2 or 4?

Looked at this guide which is great but isnt that detailed.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=702653.0


Cheers  Grin

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=671189.msg8227268#msg8227268
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=671189.msg8471571#msg8471571


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October 25, 2014, 12:32:52 PM
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Hello

So I have 4 x S3 miners coming next week and I’m just about to buy the power supplies. I was thinking two Corsair HX850 (850Watts), only snag is they have 6xPCI-E 6 connecters and the miners take four each. Would like to over clock them abit and concerned the wire will heat up to much.
http://www.corsair.com/en-gb/psus/hx-series

I know they can run on 2, I’m wondering if I could connect three to each miner or will it only work in arrangements of 2 or 4?

Looked at this guide which is great but isnt that detailed.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=702653.0


Cheers  Grin

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=671189.msg8227268#msg8227268
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=671189.msg8471571#msg8471571




Thanks for this, but im not sure its the best way to go only using two cables pair one device.

Cant wait now to get my gear, going to take loads of pictures and watt readings then post on here.

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I have 2 of these psu-s running 4 S3 overclocked with no problem.

They can handle 5 for sure. I wasn't able to connect 5 because I've used them for S2-s and didn't soldered enough cables on them.


So you have 4200Watts running 4x S3 units?

or 8 units 4 on each one?


4 on each one.

Please provide watt usage at the wall and a picture of setup, would really help

I'm not running them at home. They are built in at my mining place.

I can take some photos but only when I clean them in the near future.


Not sure what to make of your comments, no factual figures or pictures.... im not convinced you even have a setup. Anyone who is carrying out an install of 8 units is surely to have recoreded some testing or taken pictures of the modifcations etc.

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October 25, 2014, 01:17:05 PM
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I have 2 of these psu-s running 4 S3 overclocked with no problem.

They can handle 5 for sure. I wasn't able to connect 5 because I've used them for S2-s and didn't soldered enough cables on them.


So you have 4200Watts running 4x S3 units?

or 8 units 4 on each one?


4 on each one.

Please provide watt usage at the wall and a picture of setup, would really help

I'm not running them at home. They are built in at my mining place.

I can take some photos but only when I clean them in the near future.


Not sure what to make of your comments, no factual figures or pictures.... im not convinced you even have a setup. Anyone who is carrying out an install of 8 units is surely to have recoreded some testing or taken pictures of the modifcations etc.

Maaannnn..... Please.....

Check my sig and my old account. I have 70+Th running. Do you think I make a picture about every cable what I make...Huh Grin

I've tried to help you out buddy but now I think you're just an other stupid wannabe clever guy... Sorry for that....
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October 25, 2014, 01:38:45 PM
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I have 2 of these psu-s running 4 S3 overclocked with no problem.

They can handle 5 for sure. I wasn't able to connect 5 because I've used them for S2-s and didn't soldered enough cables on them.


So you have 4200Watts running 4x S3 units?

or 8 units 4 on each one?


4 on each one.

Please provide watt usage at the wall and a picture of setup, would really help

I'm not running them at home. They are built in at my mining place.

I can take some photos but only when I clean them in the near future.


Not sure what to make of your comments, no factual figures or pictures.... im not convinced you even have a setup. Anyone who is carrying out an install of 8 units is surely to have recoreded some testing or taken pictures of the modifcations etc.

Maaannnn..... Please.....

Check my sig and my old account. I have 70+Th running. Do you think I make a picture about every cable what I make...Huh Grin

I've tried to help you out buddy but now I think you're just an other stupid wannabe clever guy... Sorry for that....


Not stupid, certainly not a wanna be...a just new hobby

So your telling me you have 70TH and you dont have one stat or picture....come one dude!!

I just dont see the point in someone posting '' Yeah I have two of those PSU's running 4 units no problem'' wheres the science in that. All of these questions I'm asking will be answered, then once my setup is up and running I will post back here with the facts. Not just ''Yeah I have two of those PSU's running 4 units no problem'' ... Sorry for that....

But hey thanks for your help

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October 25, 2014, 01:42:56 PM
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Hello

So I have 4 x S3 miners coming next week and I’m just about to buy the power supplies. I was thinking two Corsair HX850 (850Watts), only snag is they have 6xPCI-E 6 connecters and the miners take four each. Would like to over clock them abit and concerned the wire will heat up to much.
http://www.corsair.com/en-gb/psus/hx-series

I know they can run on 2, I’m wondering if I could connect three to each miner or will it only work in arrangements of 2 or 4?

Looked at this guide which is great but isnt that detailed.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=702653.0


Cheers  Grin

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=671189.msg8227268#msg8227268
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=671189.msg8471571#msg8471571




Thanks for this, but im not sure its the best way to go only using two cables pair one device.

Cant wait now to get my gear, going to take loads of pictures and watt readings then post on here.

What do you mean "not the best way to go"?  I just gave you proof that you don't need no stinkin' four PCIe power connections to run an overclocked S3 and you don't need an overpriced/overkill PSU either.  I'm not sure why you started a separate thread on this subject in spite of it being discussed till kingdom come on the "ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread" when you seem to already know what you are doing and what you want.

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October 25, 2014, 01:52:24 PM
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Hello

So I have 4 x S3 miners coming next week and I’m just about to buy the power supplies. I was thinking two Corsair HX850 (850Watts), only snag is they have 6xPCI-E 6 connecters and the miners take four each. Would like to over clock them abit and concerned the wire will heat up to much.
http://www.corsair.com/en-gb/psus/hx-series

I know they can run on 2, I’m wondering if I could connect three to each miner or will it only work in arrangements of 2 or 4?

Looked at this guide which is great but isnt that detailed.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=702653.0


Cheers  Grin

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=671189.msg8227268#msg8227268
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=671189.msg8471571#msg8471571




Thanks for this, but im not sure its the best way to go only using two cables pair one device.

Cant wait now to get my gear, going to take loads of pictures and watt readings then post on here.

What do you mean "not the best way to go"?  I just gave you proof that you don't neet no stinkin' four PCIe power connections to run an overclocked S3 and you don't need an overpriced/overkill PSU either.  I'm not sure why you started a separate thread on this subject in spite of it being discussed till kingdom come on the "ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread" when you seem to already know what you are doing and what you want.




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October 25, 2014, 02:06:40 PM
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Hello

So I have 4 x S3 miners coming next week and I’m just about to buy the power supplies. I was thinking two Corsair HX850 (850Watts), only snag is they have 6xPCI-E 6 connecters and the miners take four each. Would like to over clock them abit and concerned the wire will heat up to much.
http://www.corsair.com/en-gb/psus/hx-series

I know they can run on 2, I’m wondering if I could connect three to each miner or will it only work in arrangements of 2 or 4?

Looked at this guide which is great but isnt that detailed.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=702653.0


Cheers  Grin

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=671189.msg8227268#msg8227268
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=671189.msg8471571#msg8471571




Thanks for this, but im not sure its the best way to go only using two cables pair one device.

Cant wait now to get my gear, going to take loads of pictures and watt readings then post on here.

What do you mean "not the best way to go"?  I just gave you proof that you don't neet no stinkin' four PCIe power connections to run an overclocked S3 and you don't need an overpriced/overkill PSU either.  I'm not sure why you started a separate thread on this subject in spite of it being discussed till kingdom come on the "ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread" when you seem to already know what you are doing and what you want.




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Good luck with your HX850 (with a max output of 840W on its +12V rail) running two OC'd S3s.

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Not stupid, certainly not a wanna be...a just new hobby

So your telling me you have 70TH and you dont have one stat or picture....come one dude!!

I just dont see the point in someone posting '' Yeah I have two of those PSU's running 4 units no problem'' wheres the science in that. All of these questions I'm asking will be answered, then once my setup is up and running I will post back here with the facts. Not just ''Yeah I have two of those PSU's running 4 units no problem'' ... Sorry for that....

But hey thanks for your help


I have over 40TH/s running and only  pictures i have from "home made" open air 6 nodules KNC Neptunes.

 however,I have
5x  KNC Neptune
37 x  Antminer S3 and S3+
last 2 Antminer S2
The first and last S4, running with EVGA G2 1300W (downclocked) and wait for PSU
and I do not have any pictures of them.  Did I really should have a picture of my miners ?


Good luck with your HX850 (with a max output of 840W on its +12V rail) running two OC'd S3s.

I have Corsair TX750 running two S3+
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I have over 40TH/s running and only  pictures i have from "home made" open air 6 nodules KNC Neptunes.

 however,I have
5x  KNC Neptune
37 x  Antminer S3 and S3+
last 2 Antminer S2
The first and last S4, running with EVGA G2 1300W (downclocked) and wait for PSU
and I do not have any pictures of them.  Did I really should have a picture of my miners ?


Maybe its just me who take pictures of his own hardware  Grin


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Good luck with your HX850 (with a max output of 840W on its +12V rail) running two OC'd S3s.

Think i'm going to get two of the G2-1000-XR EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 G2

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I have 2 of these psu-s running 4 S3 overclocked with no problem.

They can handle 5 for sure. I wasn't able to connect 5 because I've used them for S2-s and didn't soldered enough cables on them.


So you have 4200Watts running 4x S3 units?

or 8 units 4 on each one?


4 on each one.

Please provide watt usage at the wall and a picture of setup, would really help

I'm not running them at home. They are built in at my mining place.

I can take some photos but only when I clean them in the near future.


Not sure what to make of your comments, no factual figures or pictures.... im not convinced you even have a setup. Anyone who is carrying out an install of 8 units is surely to have recoreded some testing or taken pictures of the modifcations etc.

Maaannnn..... Please.....

Check my sig and my old account. I have 70+Th running. Do you think I make a picture about every cable what I make...Huh Grin

I've tried to help you out buddy but now I think you're just an other stupid wannabe clever guy... Sorry for that....


Not stupid, certainly not a wanna be...a just new hobby

So your telling me you have 70TH and you dont have one stat or picture....come one dude!!

I just dont see the point in someone posting '' Yeah I have two of those PSU's running 4 units no problem'' wheres the science in that. All of these questions I'm asking will be answered, then once my setup is up and running I will post back here with the facts. Not just ''Yeah I have two of those PSU's running 4 units no problem'' ... Sorry for that....

But hey thanks for your help

Please search for the account ElGabo. (This was my account before it got hacked.)

Serch for the posts.

You'll find pictures how I made some server PSU-s and you can find a few pictures how I modified 2 S2-s with this 2100W server psu-s.

But only if you have some time for it.....

After my old account hacked I promised myself I won't post too much pictures... I think you undertand why.

Please do your research and get back to me after.

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Here's a simple guide that you may consider if you want to stay in specs of the power supply (EVGA seems to be the big name in mining power supplies), look for a single +12v line:  Keep in mind that the closer you are to the 50% power rating, the more efficient the power supply will run (so if you can afford it, get a higher rated power supply over a power supply closer to the peak load, or if there are 2 power supplies in the same price range you'll probably want to get the higher rated power supply, so a 1,300w power supply would be better than a 850w one barring the price factor).

1 S3 if you want to OverClock then you'll want to get a 500-800w power supply.
2 S3's if you want to OverClock then you'll want to get a 850-1600w power supply.
3 S3's if you want to OverClock then you'll want to get a 1,300-1,600w power supply.
4 S3's non-Overclocked then you'll need a 1,600w power supply (and a pair of splitters, better from the 8-pin line).

(and here will come the posters that will chime in how their power supply is working fine out of specs.)


Here's what each S3+ will roughly draw at the power supply (add another approx. 25watts at the wall on 120v line if you want to know the power consumption for cost of electricity evaluation) at given speed.  BitMain's specs. seem to be after the power supply (even though they state at the wall), my testing was done at approx. 91% efficiency on a 1,200w Gold power supply using a pair of S3+'s and then divided by 1/2.

175M will use about 265w
193M will use about 296w
200M will use about 306w
212.5M will use about 330w
218.75M (default S3) will use about 342w
225M (default S3+) will use about 362w
237.5M will use about 385w
250M will use about 410w


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Not stupid, certainly not a wanna be...a just new hobby

So your telling me you have 70TH and you dont have one stat or picture....come one dude!!

I just dont see the point in someone posting '' Yeah I have two of those PSU's running 4 units no problem'' wheres the science in that. All of these questions I'm asking will be answered, then once my setup is up and running I will post back here with the facts. Not just ''Yeah I have two of those PSU's running 4 units no problem'' ... Sorry for that....

But hey thanks for your help


I have over 40TH/s running and only  pictures i have from "home made" open air 6 nodules KNC Neptunes.

 however,I have
5x  KNC Neptune
37 x  Antminer S3 and S3+
last 2 Antminer S2
The first and last S4, running with EVGA G2 1300W (downclocked) and wait for PSU
and I do not have any pictures of them.  Did I really should have a picture of my miners ?


Good luck with your HX850 (with a max output of 840W on its +12V rail) running two OC'd S3s.

I have Corsair TX750 running two S3+


OC'd?

At stock clock (225M), 2x S3+ exerts around 85% load on a TX750 at approximately 29C ambient temp; 95% load if OC'd to 243.75M.  If you're comfy with such loading in a continuous, unattended 24/7 operation, then I guess it's fine.

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I have Corsair TX750 running two S3+


OC'd?

At stock clock (225M), 2x S3+ exerts around 85% load on a TX750; 95% load if OC'd to 243.75M.  If you're comfy with such loading in a continuous, unattended 24/7 operation, then I guess it's fine.



Not OC and 220V
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