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May 16, 2011, 12:21:50 AM
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I would defend your daughter, but again, not because I felt responsibility to do so, but because I'm sensitive to child abuse so I would feel like shit for a long time if I didn't do anything. On the other hand, if I saw a beggar getting stabbed by 5 guys I would probably not defend him because the risk of getting owned myself is high and so it wouldn't be worthwhile saving someone I don't really care about.

I would defend others not because I felt a responsibility to do so, but because I respect life.

Anyway, thanks for the conversation. I think we agree in many places and have a few key differences.
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May 16, 2011, 12:23:24 AM
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We human beings create morals, rights, and ethic. Our morals and conception of ethic originated from our evolutionary origin and evolve through culture. There's a reason we evolved this way, but sometime moral concepts become obsolete in our current environment.

Indeed, we should try to "trim the fat" as often as possible.  Smiley
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May 23, 2014, 06:20:09 AM
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Is it perfect? No. No system is perfect. It's better than the current system, where we inflict evil on each other in the hopes of stopping other evil. Even though there will be problems, we can take comfort in knowing that we are living in a more just society.

yes it is true no system is perfect but think give a very good understanding of anarchy
http://libcom.org/library/what-is-anarchism-alexander-berkman-21

There is a song of Rabibdranath Tagore "Amra sobai raja amader rajar rajotte"  means we r all kings in our kingdom

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May 24, 2014, 01:30:16 PM
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I liked the Op care in trying to justify every coercive measure, but:
He is admitting that recalcitrant criminals would have to be locked up.
Court sentences (of reparation or imprisonment) would have to be enforced.
It would have to exist a repressive system of courts, police enforcers and prisons. I don't see much difference, beside the endorsement of proposals of privatization of those systems and making people pay for security and justice when they needed them, like the ones from Nozick, with the goal of abolishing taxes.
Besides, if the criminal didn't have money to pay for his judgement and incarceration (most don't), the system would work at a deficit or we would end at a system of vendetta, with all their escalating consequences and abusive self-decisions on the merits of our own cause (we excel at that). That is precisely the system it took thousand of years to overcome. In archaic roman times, the creditor could lock up the debtor on his own private jail until he or his family paid the debt.
Or it would be necessary to support this repressive system on taxes and have him controlled by the community and we would end up just where we are Smiley

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