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October 25, 2014, 03:38:42 AM
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Hello all,

I've been involved with the crypto space for over a year now, and while I'm not the most technical person out there, I do have an understanding of bitcoins and altcoins.

I'd like to start my own coin for my business with the sole purpose of having it serve as a loyalty based coin, where customers will receive a certain amount of this coin as part of a loyalty program. Obviously it could be mind as well and redeemed for a certain amount of services from my business.

I'm just wondering, how hard is it to launch a coin? What considerations need to be made?
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October 25, 2014, 07:33:51 AM
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Do it

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October 25, 2014, 11:33:41 AM
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Do it on Nxt, using either Nxt Asset Exchange or the (soon to be launched,hopefully) Nxt Monetary System . If it's purely intended as an internal loyalty token, then you can create the coin/token/asset within a few minutes, leaving you to concentrate on distribution to customers, redemption schemes, and the rest of the loyalty system.

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October 25, 2014, 11:37:49 AM
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Yes, on NXT.
The cost to issue an asset is ~$30, asset = currency for your purposes. Customers will need to install NXT client and then you send them as many of that asset (currency) as you want according to your business plans.
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October 25, 2014, 12:06:14 PM
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I'm familiar with nxt and even owned some for the past 6 months. I'm not sure I want to release on nxt. Most of these clients aren't involved in crypto in the first place so I'd like the system to consist of the least amount of friction possible with the loyalty program. Nxt is a little too technical.

I would also be looking for a fully branded coin around our business.

First off, is this is a stupid idea? Is a crypto even necessary?

What about something like CoinCreator to get started?

I also know little about hash rates and hashing power. If you launch a coin, what considerations need to be made there?

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October 25, 2014, 12:09:21 PM
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I'm familiar with nxt and even owned some for the past 6 months. I'm not sure I want to release on nxt. Most of these clients aren't involved in crypto in the first place so I'd like the system to consist of the least amount of friction possible with the loyalty program. Nxt is a little too technical.

I would also be looking for a fully branded coin around our business.

First off, is this is a stupid idea? Is a crypto even necessary?

What about something like CoinCreator to get started?

I also know little about hash rates and hashing power. If you launch a coin, what considerations need to be made there?



They don't need to do much, they can sign up at a site like https://trade.secureae.com  which is a front end for NXT AE, and you send them asset (currency) to their NXT address that https://trade.secureae.com provides them with. That's as frictionless as could be.

If you launch your own PoW coin, they'd need to deal with downloading and syncing the blockchain, which is much more effort than using the above solution.
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October 25, 2014, 12:20:00 PM
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If I were doing this I would not make it mineable. Since this coin is going to be an Air Miles for your business then I would want to control it.

Make it PoS and premine 100%, keep it all. Hand it out as they make purchases. 1% or whatever you deem fair. Set your own price on the coin. Since its only going to be used in your business you are going to want to have control of the price and how much is out there. It will never be traded on exchanges only redeemed in store.

Mobile wallets are a must.

low staking interest.

First ever reward program on block chain technology. You'll make the news simply because you did that.


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October 25, 2014, 03:11:45 PM
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If I were doing this I would not make it mineable. Since this coin is going to be an Air Miles for your business then I would want to control it.

Make it PoS and premine 100%, keep it all. Hand it out as they make purchases. 1% or whatever you deem fair. Set your own price on the coin. Since its only going to be used in your business you are going to want to have control of the price and how much is out there. It will never be traded on exchanges only redeemed in store.

Mobile wallets are a must.

low staking interest.

First ever reward program on block chain technology. You'll make the news simply because you did that.




i was thinking that, but what's the point of a 100% premine coin? what benefits are there with a 100% premine coin versus something that is not even a coin at all. I can just say that i have 1,000,000 loyalty points and not have a coin in the 1st place.

thoughts?
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October 25, 2014, 03:38:33 PM
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RibbitRewards is exactly what you are suggesting, check it out. www.ribbitrewards.me maybe you could use the progam they are already working on.

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October 25, 2014, 04:40:22 PM
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RibbitRewards is exactly what you are suggesting, check it out. www.ribbitrewards.me maybe you could use the progam they are already working on.

looks cool, but i don't think it's exactly what i'm describing (unless i'm misunderstanding).
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October 25, 2014, 05:32:57 PM
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RibbitRewards is exactly what you are suggesting, check it out. www.ribbitrewards.me maybe you could use the progam they are already working on.

looks cool, but i don't think it's exactly what i'm describing (unless i'm misunderstanding).

RibbitRewards is like a crypto version of Delta SkyMiles. RibbitRewards are created when people transact on the RibbitRewards Marketplace as an incentive to use the marketplace. So maybe not exactly like your idea, but very very close.

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October 25, 2014, 06:01:15 PM
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Don't do NXT

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October 25, 2014, 06:11:45 PM
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RibbitRewards is exactly what you are suggesting, check it out. www.ribbitrewards.me maybe you could use the progam they are already working on.

looks cool, but i don't think it's exactly what i'm describing (unless i'm misunderstanding).

RibbitRewards is like a crypto version of Delta SkyMiles. RibbitRewards are created when people transact on the RibbitRewards Marketplace as an incentive to use the marketplace. So maybe not exactly like your idea, but very very close.

Agreed. Although I would want it branded to our company.

Anyone have any opinions on the 100% premine?
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October 25, 2014, 10:20:13 PM
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If I were doing this I would not make it mineable. Since this coin is going to be an Air Miles for your business then I would want to control it.

Make it PoS and premine 100%, keep it all. Hand it out as they make purchases. 1% or whatever you deem fair. Set your own price on the coin. Since its only going to be used in your business you are going to want to have control of the price and how much is out there. It will never be traded on exchanges only redeemed in store.

Mobile wallets are a must.

low staking interest.

First ever reward program on block chain technology. You'll make the news simply because you did that.




i was thinking that, but what's the point of a 100% premine coin? what benefits are there with a 100% premine coin versus something that is not even a coin at all. I can just say that i have 1,000,000 loyalty points and not have a coin in the 1st place.

thoughts?

Well, it uses a blockchain so it gets all the benefits of a crypto. No one out there can forge/counterfeit your loyalty points.

It also prevents big miners from jumping on, mining themselves plenty of coin and the buying things at your store for relatively cheap.

Control and distribution. If its not traded on an exchange and they only way to get it is to spend fiat in your store then you'll know there is no one person hoarding them and buying all your inventory for cheap. Setting the value of each point to a fixed dollar amount with the control of the reward points will also prevent someone buying them cheap and then using them when they are worth more. If the market is not liquid enough you will not be able to sell them on the exchanges for fiat without affecting the price in a negative way.

Treating this like any other alt makes it a currency and not typical a rewards program like air miles or canadian tire money. So maybe you are making an alt coin that can be spent in your store then.
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October 26, 2014, 03:06:48 AM
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If I were doing this I would not make it mineable. Since this coin is going to be an Air Miles for your business then I would want to control it.

Make it PoS and premine 100%, keep it all. Hand it out as they make purchases. 1% or whatever you deem fair. Set your own price on the coin. Since its only going to be used in your business you are going to want to have control of the price and how much is out there. It will never be traded on exchanges only redeemed in store.

Mobile wallets are a must.

low staking interest.

First ever reward program on block chain technology. You'll make the news simply because you did that.




i was thinking that, but what's the point of a 100% premine coin? what benefits are there with a 100% premine coin versus something that is not even a coin at all. I can just say that i have 1,000,000 loyalty points and not have a coin in the 1st place.

thoughts?

Well, it uses a blockchain so it gets all the benefits of a crypto. No one out there can forge/counterfeit your loyalty points.

It also prevents big miners from jumping on, mining themselves plenty of coin and the buying things at your store for relatively cheap.

Control and distribution. If its not traded on an exchange and they only way to get it is to spend fiat in your store then you'll know there is no one person hoarding them and buying all your inventory for cheap. Setting the value of each point to a fixed dollar amount with the control of the reward points will also prevent someone buying them cheap and then using them when they are worth more. If the market is not liquid enough you will not be able to sell them on the exchanges for fiat without affecting the price in a negative way.

Treating this like any other alt makes it a currency and not typical a rewards program like air miles or canadian tire money. So maybe you are making an alt coin that can be spent in your store then.

You might be on to something with the PoS idea...

The issue I see if that our customers would need to  download a wallet/client of some sort in order to get these coins/points. I would like to distribute the points as I see fit, and in order to distribute, I would to have a client created?

We are in the service sector and project management is important to us. We relymon our clients to provide us what we need on a regular timely basis.  If they can, then our job is made easier and we want to reward them for this. longer term, I'm thinking that other businesses in our industry might have a use for this and as such a longer term goal would be for those businesses to implement this coin. At that point, if my long term goal was to have this coin apply to all those in our industry, then maybe a 100% premine isn't a great idea?

Just throwing ideas around.
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I don't think Nxt is idea for you since most of your custumer are not into bitcoin. A simple mobile wallet will be okay for this project.

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If you create your own coin and don't use some other coin's network, you'll have to maintain your own network. That's why NXT makes it easy not only to create a coin but also maintain it, it relies on 11 month track record of NXT network. Of course you can create your coin on top of Counterparty, but it relies on Bitcoin network and that one is slower. Counterparty is also an option, but 5x slower to process transactions on average than NXT.
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October 26, 2014, 12:51:44 PM
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If you create your own coin and don't use some other coin's network, you'll have to maintain your own network. That's why NXT makes it easy not only to create a coin but also maintain it, it relies on 11 month track record of NXT network. Of course you can create your coin on top of Counterparty, but it relies on Bitcoin network and that one is slower. Counterparty is also an option, but 5x slower to process transactions on average than NXT.

dogeparty is also an option if you want to go that route.

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If you create your own coin and don't use some other coin's network, you'll have to maintain your own network. That's why NXT makes it easy not only to create a coin but also maintain it, it relies on 11 month track record of NXT network. Of course you can create your coin on top of Counterparty, but it relies on Bitcoin network and that one is slower. Counterparty is also an option, but 5x slower to process transactions on average than NXT.

dogeparty is also an option if you want to go that route.

Right. But they haven't enabled trading yet. Not sure if the OP needs to trade their coin.
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October 26, 2014, 12:57:20 PM
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If you create your own coin and don't use some other coin's network, you'll have to maintain your own network. That's why NXT makes it easy not only to create a coin but also maintain it, it relies on 11 month track record of NXT network. Of course you can create your coin on top of Counterparty, but it relies on Bitcoin network and that one is slower. Counterparty is also an option, but 5x slower to process transactions on average than NXT.

dogeparty is also an option if you want to go that route.

Right. But they haven't enabled trading yet. Not sure if the OP needs to trade their coin.

ahh true ^_^

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