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[1RuneKing]

Hey guys, for those of you interested in Bitcoin, and wanna make a little money from it, I have a solution.
Sign-up at https://www.esotericinvestments.com?refid=3 and let Esoteric Investments trade your BTC for you.

 All you do is submit a minimum of .01 BTC (about $3.50 at this date) and you start earning! They promise about of 5% a month. And they've been getting that in about a week at the time being.

------SPECIAL OFFER! Sign-up at that URL and get a free lotto entry for every .05 you deposit! No other URL will give you this!------

Their main trader holds at this time being over $20k in different cryptocurrencies, and has been with BTC since almost the very start

Your money is safe.
Encrypted wallet stored on a dedicated computer that is isolated from trading and the server
When you make a deposit the address you are sending to was generated by me in the past
The server has no way to talk to the wallet thus why withdrawls are manual

Before you ask, no it is not a ponzi. They have just started and are growing every day. They won't be going away anytime soon.

If you do not believe me, take a look at their site and see the %'s, here's the trading results for the past several days https://www.esotericinvestments.com/results.php
Those who held shares got payouts each of those days. The money you originally invest to buy shares cannot be withdrawn for 90 days, but the money you get from daily payouts can be withdrawn at any time.

Also they will be adding games over the time period. We currently have a lottery and will soon add in a multiplayer Yahtzee among others. This allows for an easy and fair way for you to increase your BTC holdings.

Press Release: https://www.esotericinvestments.com/pr/oct-22-2014.php
Terms & Conditions: https://www.esotericinvestments.com/terms.php



Risks to investors
Esoteric Investments, LLC does not guarantee any sort of results of any kind as we are speculating the markets. Speculating is never certain and comes with its own risks including but not limited to that of market exposure, exchange performance, and security.

Included risks are:

Security of online exchanges: Our trading is done just like any individual person’s trading, using online exchanges which are constant targets for hackers, hidden scams, or suffer unexpected shutdowns. For this reason, we use trusted exchanges like Cryptsy and Bittrex for our trading.

Whenever able to, we spread funds across several exchanges that have the coin(s) we are looking to trade to minimize the risks of any one given exchange’s failures in security or function.

Our systems security: We take every measure for security within our means. Currently, this includes any Bitcoin not being used for trading being kept in offline wallets. These funds include but are not limited to new investors’ deposits, investor credits, and the payout reserve pool. We utilize modern encryption at all times and every page is SSL secured to safeguard your personal information within our system.

We research and take every possible precaution possible to make the best investment choices we can, but no market, no matter how reputable, is ever certain. Although unlikely these types of losses are possible and at times can be completely out of our control.

www.esotericinvestments.com
Esoteric Investments LLC
3104 River Road
Point Pleasant, NJ 08742
(732) 903-8379
Entity ID: 0400647595

We are here to stay!

*Note: I am not an employee of Esoteric Investments LLC, merely a friend and investor

[1RuneKing]

I have money invested into the company, and here are my personal payouts.
https://i.imgur.com/wNctnsg.png


You'll get an email each day with the % of the day and the amount you made.

[rammy2k2]

oh, another BT clone ? ... i mean .. another SCAM ? gtfo promoting these crappy sites !

[1RuneKing]

oh, another BT clone ? ... i mean .. another SCAM ? gtfo promoting these crappy sites !

BT? What's that? I'm not being sarcastic I am legitmately asking.

Also this is not a scam, this is a trading pool.. If you don't believe me, look up Esoteric Investments, it's registered in NJ, so if they commit fraud they can be sued.

[1RuneKing]

oh, another BT clone ? ... i mean .. another SCAM ? gtfo promoting these crappy sites !

BT? What's that? I'm not being sarcastic I am legitmately asking.

Also this is not a scam, this is a trading pool.. If you don't believe me, look up Esoteric Investments, it's registered in NJ, so if they commit fraud they can be sued.

Verify it for yourself, Esoteric Investments is a legitimate and registered company in the United States

Also I checked, and I realize your dismay... But they are not Bit Trader. Also they were not registered in the US, EI is.

[1RuneKing]

Esoteric Investments has no problem answering your questions or concerns. If you wish to speak with them directly fill out a ticket on their site, or use the chat.

I am here to help where I can.

I do not appreciate the unfounded FUD. No one has been ripped off, and it is not a scam.

[Vod]

This is a ponzi.

ESOTERIC INVESTMENTS LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY

Once the ponzi collapses, the owner walks away consequence free with the coins.  

[CoinCidental]

Bernie Madoff only paid 12% a year and those rates were proven to be  impossible

You are offering 5% a month

If you dont get banned something is wrong with this place .......

[Vod]

If you dont get banned something is wrong with this place .......

Moderators do NOT remove likely scams.  They leave it up to the community to self police.  The OP has a negative trust rating, and that should scare off most newbies.

[1RuneKing]

This is a ponzi.

ESOTERIC INVESTMENTS LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY

Once the ponzi collapses, the owner walks away consequence free with the coins.  

Since they are registered in the US they are bound by US law. Which means if they shutdown and steal coins, they are subject to lawsuit.
You don't see ponzis and scams registered and based in the US.

Bernie Madoff only paid 12% a year and those rates were proven to be  impossible

You are offering 5% a month

If you dont get banned something is wrong with this place .......

They strive for 5% a month, there is no guaruntee that 5% is what will be returned. Look in the press release, I have a piece of it in the OP:

Press Release: https://www.esotericinvestments.com/pr/oct-22-2014.php
Terms & Conditions: https://www.esotericinvestments.com/terms.php



Risks to investors
Esoteric Investments, LLC does not guarantee any sort of results of any kind as we are speculating the markets. Speculating is never certain and comes with its own risks including but not limited to that of market exposure, exchange performance, and security.

Included risks are:

Security of online exchanges: Our trading is done just like any individual person’s trading, using online exchanges which are constant targets for hackers, hidden scams, or suffer unexpected shutdowns. For this reason, we use trusted exchanges like Cryptsy and Bittrex for our trading.

Whenever able to, we spread funds across several exchanges that have the coin(s) we are looking to trade to minimize the risks of any one given exchange’s failures in security or function.

Our systems security: We take every measure for security within our means. Currently, this includes any Bitcoin not being used for trading being kept in offline wallets. These funds include but are not limited to new investors’ deposits, investor credits, and the payout reserve pool. We utilize modern encryption at all times and every page is SSL secured to safeguard your personal information within our system.

We research and take every possible precaution possible to make the best investment choices we can, but no market, no matter how reputable, is ever certain. Although unlikely these types of losses are possible and at times can be completely out of our control.

There is no promise that you will get 5%, merely this is what they will aim for. Also this will get harder to return as more people invest and the pool grows. (Unless Glenn gets more traders)

If you dont get banned something is wrong with this place .......

Moderators do NOT remove likely scams.  They leave it up to the community to self police.  The OP has a negative trust rating, and that should scare off most newbies.

There is only one negative trust and that is from Vod... Anyone can post negative trust, and it is unfounded and untrue. If you were to invest money yourself, you would see that it is not a scam and perfectly safe...
If you don't wish to invest then don't, but don't spread unfounded FUD and lies. No one has been ripped off or scammed, and no one will.

[Vod]

Since they are registered in the US they are bound by US law. Which means if they shutdown and steal coins, they are subject to lawsuit.

They strive for 5% a month, there is no guaruntee that 5% is what will be returned. Look in the terms and conditions

There ya go.

No guarantee of payment.  Once they hit their ponzi peak they shutdown and post apologies, saying they made bad trades and lost all the coin.

Nothing illegal about that - owner gets to walk away with all the stolen coins and nothing is done to him.

BTW - why did you make TWO threads about this so we have to post everything twice?

[1RuneKing]

Since they are registered in the US they are bound by US law. Which means if they shutdown and steal coins, they are subject to lawsuit.

They strive for 5% a month, there is no guaruntee that 5% is what will be returned. Look in the terms and conditions

There ya go.

No guarantee of payment.  Once they hit their ponzi peak they shutdown and post apologies, saying they made bad trades and lost all the coin.

Nothing illegal about that - owner gets to walk away with all the stolen coins and nothing is done to him.

BTW - why did you make TWO threads about this so we have to post everything twice?

They can still be sued personally.

Also I had the other thread in a different area, someone moved it to this part of the forum where I already had this one.

They are getting a liscense to take USD investments.
How can they prove to you that they are a legitimate company and aren't trying to scam you?

[Vod]

They can still be sued personally.

You are lying.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=835573.msg9341616#msg9341616

[1RuneKing]

They can still be sued personally.

You are lying.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=835573.msg9341616#msg9341616

I AM NOT LYING!
Your lies are unfounded, and I am tired of the FUD!
Speak with the owners if you wish but I am done.

LLC is basically what any company starts off as. Once it grows it is no longer an LLC.

Main thread----> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=829885.0

Do not reply to this thread.

[Vod]

LLC is basically what any company starts off as. Once it grows it is no longer an LLC.

You are lying again.  You obviously have no idea what a LLC is - stop using the term and stop promoting a ponzi.

[CoinCidental]

If you dont get banned something is wrong with this place .......

Moderators do NOT remove likely scams.  They leave it up to the community to self police.  The OP has a negative trust rating, and that should scare off most newbies.

That's precisely  the issue, btc people ARE stupid  enough to send Coins  to these "high interest rate" scams  as has been proven
countless times in the past.

Maybe we should just call it the stupidity tax and let everyone get fleeced at least once or maybe more depending on their level of greed

The only problem I have with it is negative impact on btc as a whole,  mainstream news barely notices  when some investment company does something positive like investing a pile of money into development of  btc but when there's a scam it seems to get more publicity.... I can easily remember every major scam since about 2010-2011 but can't remember the names of venture capitalists who invested billions last year

Not many people spend their time reading the forums like regular users so is for that reason and that reason alone I will post on obvious scam threads when I see them.......

[Vod]

Now the lying OP is deleting his posts and claiming he didn't post them!   

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=829885.msg9341939#msg9341939

[rammy2k2]

Now the lying OP is deleting his posts and claiming he didn't post them!   

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=829885.msg9341939#msg9341939

LOL ... just ignore him ... we all know its a lame scam...

[Puppet]

So you deposited 0.22 BTC ? And you spend countless hours and spread numerous lies hoping to lure in other victims of this scam, just so you can make a few satoshi's? ROFL! You're pathetic. And a moron, you can probably kiss those crumbs goodbye, as its unlikely this ponzi will still be around when your shares expire. Your odds of making a profit are far better on any bitcoin gambling site.