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July 31, 2012, 09:56:53 PM |
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i didnt pay anyone but someone that was owed around $12 please dont junp to conclusions and please pm if you have any questions
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TheBitMan (OP)
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July 31, 2012, 10:01:59 PM |
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Sorry for the delay on updates I have been busy lately. I am talking to patrick now. I looked at every amount and tranactions and everything is good now. I will send patrick the list once he is ready.
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augustocroppo
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August 01, 2012, 08:33:36 PM |
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Since The Bitmint enterprise solely owner is showing good will to recover lost funds to pay his clients, I am also in good will to help the enterprise and cover up part of his debts. I have the total amount of US$ 55.00 in two Paypal accounts, which I could try to send to any of his clients.
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Shadow383
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August 01, 2012, 08:38:02 PM |
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Since The Bitmint enterprise solely owner is showing good will to recover lost funds to pay his clients, I am also in good will to help the enterprise and cover up part of his debts. I have the total amount of US$ 55.00 in two Paypal accounts, which I could try to send to any of his clients.
What? Why should you? I thought he established above that he has the funds? |
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augustocroppo
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August 01, 2012, 08:49:00 PM |
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Since The Bitmint enterprise solely owner is showing good will to recover lost funds to pay his clients, I am also in good will to help the enterprise and cover up part of his debts. I have the total amount of US$ 55.00 in two Paypal accounts, which I could try to send to any of his clients.
What? Why should you? I thought he established above that he has the funds? Because I should donate to enterprises with good ethical responses regarding the clients funds. |
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RandomQ
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August 01, 2012, 09:53:38 PM |
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Since The Bitmint enterprise solely owner is showing good will to recover lost funds to pay his clients, I am also in good will to help the enterprise and cover up part of his debts. I have the total amount of US$ 55.00 in two Paypal accounts, which I could try to send to any of his clients.
What? Why should you? I thought he established above that he has the funds? Because I should donate to enterprises with good ethical responses regarding the clients funds. You could always send the Money to TangibleCryptography They are handling the Payback via BTC |
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TangibleCryptography
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August 01, 2012, 09:55:15 PM |
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You could always send the Money to TangibleCryptography They are handling the Payback via BTC
Maybe not. If TheBitMan secures a loan then my understanding is the payback would be directly from the lender to TheBitMan's creditors. If TheBitMan is unwilling or unable to secure a BTC loan and needs our services converting USD to BTC we would be happy to help but that seems less and less likely. |
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PatrickHarnett
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August 01, 2012, 10:03:54 PM |
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For information, I have decided against funding a loan to support the payback of the creditors here. I believed that it would have been useful for the community to have this mess cleaned up, but my assessment of the risk to my funds (based on information released and not provided) would be too high.
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augustocroppo
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August 01, 2012, 10:09:08 PM |
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For information, I have decided against funding a loan to support the payback of the creditors here. I believed that it would have been useful for the community to have this mess cleaned up, but my assessment of the risk to my funds (based on information released and not provided) would be too high.
How much debt The Bitmint enterprise hold for his clients? |
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Tittiez
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August 01, 2012, 10:24:14 PM |
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For information, I have decided against funding a loan to support the payback of the creditors here. I believed that it would have been useful for the community to have this mess cleaned up, but my assessment of the risk to my funds (based on information released and not provided) would be too high.
Ouch that is bad news. I still hope that everything can be cleared up, I myself never used his service but he seems to be cleaning this up to the best of his ability, so I would be sad to see it taken to small claims. |
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Raoul Duke
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August 01, 2012, 10:43:37 PM |
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Since The Bitmint enterprise solely owner is showing good will to recover lost funds to pay his clients, I am also in good will to help the enterprise and cover up part of his debts. I have the total amount of US$ 55.00 in two Paypal accounts, which I could try to send to any of his clients.
What? Why should you? I thought he established above that he has the funds? hmmm... $55 in 2 Paypal accounts... |
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August 01, 2012, 11:50:06 PM |
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For information, I have decided against funding a loan to support the payback of the creditors here. I believed that it would have been useful for the community to have this mess cleaned up, but my assessment of the risk to my funds (based on information released and not provided) would be too high.
If he gave you the information would you give him a loan? BitMan why not give the information you get the money in 180 days |
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PatrickHarnett
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August 02, 2012, 12:00:54 AM |
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For information, I have decided against funding a loan to support the payback of the creditors here. I believed that it would have been useful for the community to have this mess cleaned up, but my assessment of the risk to my funds (based on information released and not provided) would be too high.
If he gave you the information would you give him a loan? BitMan why not give the information you get the money in 180 days It was not as simple as that (would be nice if it was). He offered various verbal guarantees and provided some information about some of the resources he could use to back that up. I don't understand why he isn't using those (and as it was provided via pm, it is not my place to comment on those here). I also asked about having a parental acknowledgement and/or guarantee because, as is noted above, the guy is 17 which is currently the only thing I know about him. The parent involvement was consistently a blank for whatever reason, and I understand that is his choice. My choice was to step away from this because if I can't get these simple things sorted out easily, I don't need to be worrying about $4k for the next six months. |
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TheBitMan (OP)
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August 02, 2012, 12:05:20 AM |
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I am talking to others about a loan.
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TheBitMan (OP)
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August 02, 2012, 12:07:11 AM |
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The backup money I have now is not enough to pay everyone back right now. It would take all my life savings to pay back about 40% of what I owe. A loan would be the best option right now.
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augustocroppo
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August 02, 2012, 12:07:56 AM |
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For information, I have decided against funding a loan to support the payback of the creditors here. I believed that it would have been useful for the community to have this mess cleaned up, but my assessment of the risk to my funds (based on information released and not provided) would be too high.
If he gave you the information would you give him a loan? BitMan why not give the information you get the money in 180 days It was not as simple as that (would be nice if it was). He offered various verbal guarantees and provided some information about some of the resources he could use to back that up. I don't understand why he isn't using those (and as it was provided via pm, it is not my place to comment on those here). I also asked about having a parental acknowledgement and/or guarantee because, as is noted above, the guy is 17 which is currently the only thing I know about him. The parent involvement was consistently a blank for whatever reason, and I understand that is his choice. My choice was to step away from this because if I can't get these simple things sorted out easily, I don't need to be worrying about $4k for the next six months. US$ 4,000.00 !  I think he owned less than that... Poor him. Did he proved to be 17 years old? |
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augustocroppo
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August 02, 2012, 12:11:10 AM |
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hmmm... $55 in 2 Paypal accounts...
Yeah, stuck there, I just do not know what to do with that money at the moment... |
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TheBitMan (OP)
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August 02, 2012, 11:25:56 AM |
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I started donating to him through here 1C8UGJXLJhmovSzLMUvCUvqJTZgxA6D7vF
all funds go straight to the amount owed if I get a loan I will return the amounts. |
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TheBitMan (OP)
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August 02, 2012, 11:29:03 AM |
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The backup money I have now is not enough to pay everyone back right now. It would take all my life savings to pay back about 40% of what I owe. A loan would be the best option right now.
Well lenders might appreciate some transparency. How about that hashed list of creditors refund addresses and amounts? I can do that but I don't quite understand how it works. I hashed one address and I get a hash. But if someone goes to enter there address later on they get a different hash, I tried. So how would they find it out? I'm surely missing something, sorry if it's suppose to be easy i'm a little confused. |
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TangibleCryptography
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August 02, 2012, 01:04:26 PM
Last edit: August 02, 2012, 01:37:04 PM by TangibleCryptography |
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Hashes are always the same. Period. No exceptions. It is that easy. The SHA-256 hash of "12EjJz6qdJrvSMMpkhyzao8Z8owNcFVtfK" (without quotes in ASCII encoding) will always be: 3e4c7fca9f732aa34000374d7cb6a0c733d2cd108571ab879ff796079259ec58 Now be careful and watch your whitespace. The SHA-256 hash of "12EjJz6qdJrvSMMpkhyzao8Z8owNcFVtfK " (note the space at the end) will always be: 62143a1c7cc5618b7929d0da6b499d8e1f995e62db9ec45aa40bce89b1a890c5 The SHA-256 hash of " 12EjJz6qdJrvSMMpkhyzao8Z8owNcFVtfK" (note the space at the beginning) will always be: d4e4045f848797fd4194ef082c36440f3ba652092ba4beaed4839bc6be7a8764 The SHA-256 hash of "12EjJz6qdJrvSMMpkhyzao8Z8owNcFVtfK<CR/LF> " (has a carriage return and line feed) will always be: 8b4c58b765ac3832a6329dd14cf8c29526152fc5eb45aa61707672be379754fa |
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