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October 28, 2014, 03:53:46 AM |
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Mainly due to the unbelievable stupidity of the average human. I previously worked as a security expert and you wouldn't believe the number of website owners that don't properly salt and store their users' passwords and the number of users that use a "banana69" type password which is easily crackable with a dictionary attack, of course the same user will be registered with his email and the email password will conveniently be set to "banana69" with both the Blockchain.info Identifier and Password saved in drafts.
Bitch and moan about Bitcoin not being secure enough after that will ya? Have you ever used the same password for multiple websites? Have you ever stored your private keys or private key entropy on a machine connected to the internet? I will begin seperating the sheep from the wolves and slapping you across the face with a wet fish bitches.
Bitcoin will never take off without centraliziation whereas a set number of intellectuals will look after the BTC of the stupid masses. Your inferior brains are the achilles heel of Bitcoin security wise, not SHA256, not RIPEMD-160 and not the ECDSA which the NSA may build a billion dollar computer to record all the sounds that your processor makes while generating and crack.
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October 28, 2014, 04:43:33 AM |
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Who uses banana69 as a password. That is both insulting to banana and 69. Come one.
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October 28, 2014, 04:45:27 AM |
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Mine is secure. I don't know about yours.
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October 28, 2014, 04:56:51 AM |
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Obviously it's not secure for those who use same passwords at multiple site and a 'banana69' type.
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October 28, 2014, 10:35:21 AM |
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how about Password1... ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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October 28, 2014, 10:56:51 AM |
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Mainly due to the unbelievable stupidity of the average human. Many people will choose unhealthy food, which leads to widespread weight and health problems. So to protect them from their own stupidity, society should control what people are allowed to eat.
See the similarity?
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October 28, 2014, 10:57:22 AM |
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Your argument is invalid. People who sign up for bitcoin related sites will be warned about proper security protocols as people who are security conscious will not use such sites if they do not tell users who are not security conscious proper security procedures.
Also most/many people who are involved in bitcoin are more computer literate, and these people tend to know to use different passwords between different applications.
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October 28, 2014, 11:53:40 AM |
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After purchasing your BTC, the total security option depends entirely upon your decisions, such as where to store, how to store, where to spend, etc.
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October 28, 2014, 12:00:55 PM |
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Every security, even the best one, can fall because of human factor. If you will not protect your passwords or give your security details to others, or make weak password, or will not instal good anti virus protection, you can't blame others if something happened, only yourself. All this examples are also valid for bitcoin users.
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October 28, 2014, 12:14:29 PM |
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Bitcoin will never take off without centraliziation whereas a set number of intellectuals will look after the BTC of the stupid masses. Your inferior brains are the achilles heel of Bitcoin security wise, not SHA256, not RIPEMD-160 and not the ECDSA which the NSA may build a billion dollar computer to record all the sounds that your processor makes while generating and crack.
Centraliziation already exists, blockchain.info, conjar.com, cointree.com.au etc.
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October 28, 2014, 12:53:27 PM |
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Your argument is invalid. People who sign up for bitcoin related sites will be warned about proper security protocols as people who are security conscious will not use such sites if they do not tell users who are not security conscious proper security procedures.
Also most/many people who are involved in bitcoin are more computer literate, and these people tend to know to use different passwords between different applications.
OP is completely right. People is stupid, at least most. Accidents happen all the time. Without a centralized place of profesionals whom the mass can blame to in case something goes wrong, there will be a lot of critique about Bitcoin because people don't want to be taken accountable for their mistakes. Only education can fix this but accidents will continue happening.
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October 28, 2014, 12:56:49 PM |
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So your argument is Bitcoin is not secure because people use small simple passwords and they use them for multiple sites?
This has nothing to do with Bitcoin at all, anyone who uses passwords like that are not secure obviously...
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October 28, 2014, 01:10:33 PM |
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OP is completely right. People is stupid, at least most. Accidents happen all the time. Without a centralized place of profesionals whom the mass can blame to in case something goes wrong, there will be a lot of critique about Bitcoin because people don't want to be taken accountable for their mistakes. Only education can fix this but accidents will continue happening.
You're right, in that a lot of people tend to both depend on, and blame their governments. The job market is blamed on the government. The economy is blamed on the government. The crime is blamed on the government. Everything is blamed on the government. It's no surprise, that a lot of otherwise smart people will want to blame the lack of security in bitcoin on the government. Lock your own doors. Buy your own fire extinguishers. Be self reliant. Those types of people are the ones who will adopt bitcoin and not complain.
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October 28, 2014, 10:11:49 PM |
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OP is completely right. People is stupid, at least most. Accidents happen all the time. Without a centralized place of profesionals whom the mass can blame to in case something goes wrong, there will be a lot of critique about Bitcoin because people don't want to be taken accountable for their mistakes. Only education can fix this but accidents will continue happening.
You're right, in that a lot of people tend to both depend on, and blame their governments. The job market is blamed on the government. The economy is blamed on the government. The crime is blamed on the government. Everything is blamed on the government. It's no surprise, that a lot of otherwise smart people will want to blame the lack of security in bitcoin on the government. Lock your own doors. Buy your own fire extinguishers. Be self reliant. Those types of people are the ones who will adopt bitcoin and not complain. The job market, economy and crime rates are influenced heavily by the government. It is not realistic to say that someone is at fault because there are no jobs available that match a workers skill set (at least a worker is not 100% at fault as they could have previously acquired a broader skill set). The same is even more true regarding the crime rate. Just because you lock your doors does not mean that you will be safe from a robbery - someone could break a window, or kick down your door, or knock and come in when when you open the door for them
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October 28, 2014, 10:15:28 PM |
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Bitcoin will never take off without centraliziation whereas a set number of intellectuals will look after the BTC of the stupid masses. Your inferior brains are the achilles heel of Bitcoin security wise, not SHA256, not RIPEMD-160 and not the ECDSA which the NSA may build a billion dollar computer to record all the sounds that your processor makes while generating and crack.
This or really easy and simple device (maybe like trezor not sure yet coz i don't use trezor), to make safe transactions without risk.
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October 28, 2014, 10:18:58 PM |
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Bitcoin will never take off without centraliziation whereas a set number of intellectuals will look after the BTC of the stupid masses. Your inferior brains are the achilles heel of Bitcoin security wise, not SHA256, not RIPEMD-160 and not the ECDSA which the NSA may build a billion dollar computer to record all the sounds that your processor makes while generating and crack.
This or really easy and simple device (maybe like trezor not sure yet coz i don't use trezor), to make safe transactions without risk. It would have to be more heavily consumerised and dumbed down for the masses, perhaps even the name changed and offer new "state of the art animations" and sounds that go DINGDINGDING once you've sent or received a payment. Very similar to iPhones.
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October 29, 2014, 01:19:45 AM |
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OP, please explain to me how this makes Bitcoin less secure than every online bank account on the planet? If BTC passwords are weak, so are fiat bank passwords. So please explain how this is a problem for Bitcoin more so than alternatives? (Except maybe hiding gold in your mattress.)
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October 29, 2014, 03:12:32 AM |
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Mine is secure. I don't know about yours.
for now it is, but who knows in the future, better remove your wallet from the platform.
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October 29, 2014, 03:22:02 AM |
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bitcoin is secure.. this topic is not even talking about bitcoin..
this topic is talking about third party services.. so please change the title to atleast be correct.
bitcoin is a protocol not a website!!!!
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October 29, 2014, 03:51:54 AM |
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As long as one has half of a brain, their btc will be secure.
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