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May 27, 2012, 03:15:25 PM
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Nice chart!

I will link to it from http://lovebitcoins.org/getStarted.html

my table is really meant to get people started quickly with mobile wallets. But the desktop wallets are important too.

Nice chart too!

Personally, I would move Spinner to beginner along with Bitcoin client.  I would move Bitcoin wallet to intermediate.  Blockchaininfo should be removed

its a really intimidating chart otherwise.  But its also truly how I feel.
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May 27, 2012, 03:49:37 PM
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Nice chart!

I will link to it from http://lovebitcoins.org/getStarted.html

my table is really meant to get people started quickly with mobile wallets. But the desktop wallets are important too.

Thanks, glad that you like it!

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May 28, 2012, 07:20:20 AM
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Nice chart. How about adding Operating System to it? Also, how about a row for mobile support too.

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May 28, 2012, 11:03:55 AM
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How about adding Operating System to it?

+1 That would be nice.
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May 28, 2012, 11:26:47 AM
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Nice chart. How about adding Operating System to it? Also, how about a row for mobile support too.

Actually, I'm hesitant to add a row for OS support because I'm trying to focus on key differentiators, and as far as I can tell, the 4 clients in the chart do support all major OSes (Windows, MacOSX, Linux) - someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

Regarding mobile support: Perhaps a separate chart for mobile clients would work best - I'll think about making one too, as time permits...

I would like this table to stay focused on desktop clients and remain as uncluttered as possible so it can be easy and quick to read for new users.

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May 28, 2012, 11:46:53 AM
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Armory and Electrum are Windows / Linux only AFAIK.
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May 28, 2012, 01:58:28 PM
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Armory and Electrum are Windows / Linux only AFAIK.

+1...

An OS row is needed IMHO...
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May 28, 2012, 02:24:04 PM
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Armory and Electrum are Windows / Linux only AFAIK.

Armory is also Mac


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May 28, 2012, 03:31:58 PM
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Armory and Electrum are Windows / Linux only AFAIK.

Armory is also Mac


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Actually Mac support appears to be quite shaky and there are no official binaries available yet.

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May 28, 2012, 03:33:36 PM
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Armory and Electrum are Windows / Linux only AFAIK.

+1...

An OS row is needed IMHO...

OK, due to popular demand, I've just added such a row. Smiley

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May 28, 2012, 03:37:43 PM
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Regarding the "local blockchain validation", there are acually three levels:
  • Do all validation on a trusted server ("lightweight mode"): Electrum
  • Trust the longest chain, but do not validate it ("SPV mode"): MultiBit
  • Fully validate the chain ("full mode"): Satoshi (and indirectly, Armory)

This may be too detailed for the audience you aim at, but it's not entirely correct to claim that MultiBit does local chain validation.

Also, key import/export in the Satoshi code probably needs a +/-, as you need the command-line instead of Bitcoin-Qt for this.

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May 28, 2012, 04:27:16 PM
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Regarding the "local blockchain validation", there are acually three levels:
  • Do all validation on a trusted server ("lightweight mode"): Electrum
  • Trust the longest chain, but do not validate it ("SPV mode"): MultiBit
  • Fully validate the chain ("full mode"): Satoshi (and indirectly, Armory)

This may be too detailed for the audience you aim at, but it's not entirely correct to claim that MultiBit does local chain validation.

Also, key import/export in the Satoshi code probably needs a +/-, as you need the command-line instead of Bitcoin-Qt for this.

Indeed, I wouldn't want this chart to get too technical, but I have updated it based on your feedback.
Thanks!

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May 28, 2012, 07:06:01 PM
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I like the convention of the 'ying and yang' circles where the user has to drop to the command line or be more techie to do it.

If it is on the UI with explanations and buttons and everything it is a tick.
The moment the user has to read a FAQ and enter some command line options: you just lost 90% of people.

In automotive speak the command line is the equivalent of saying:
"Just remove the HT leads, take out the spark plugs and check the spark gap with a feeler gauge".

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May 28, 2012, 07:08:14 PM
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Neat chart. What do the represent?
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May 28, 2012, 07:21:28 PM
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in your table, change "Portable" to "Portable-run from USB stick".
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May 29, 2012, 11:41:53 AM
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Neat chart. What do the represent?

Thanks! In the chart, this symbol simply means 'feature supported, but...' . Hover the mouse pointer over it to show some brief additional information.

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May 31, 2012, 06:31:28 PM
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Slightly updated the chart CSS layout to fix a display issue with older IE versions.

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June 01, 2012, 11:53:28 AM
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Which of these clients provides the fastest startup and catch up with the blocks?  For example, I use Bitcoin-Qt I go on vacation for two weeks, come home and it takes the client hours to catch up downloading the block info.
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June 01, 2012, 12:45:10 PM
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The fastest will be Electrum, as the blockchain is stored on the server and not stored locally.

Next fastest is MultiBit as it downloads all the block data but filters out all the none wallet-related transactions and only stores the block headers.

Bitcoin-Qt and Armory take the same time. Armory currently relies on Bitcoin-Qt for the blockchain data.

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June 01, 2012, 12:54:33 PM
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Next fastest is MultiBit as it downloads all the block data but filters out all the none wallet-related transactions and only stores the block headers.

TY for that... I always felt like I was missing something about these 'medium weight' clients. The way you worded it, and perhaps my current frame of mind, made it click just right.

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