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October 28, 2014, 04:31:06 PM
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PBMining sends their payments as a single transaction to all of it's customers. As their customer base grows, this transaction and it's list of receivers grows.

I use the android wallet, and because of this type of transaction, it is slowing down wallets to the point of being unusable.

I know pools payout this way as well, but they atleast group the receivers into groups of 200 or 300 and send out multiple transactions. PBMining does not.

Here is the 10/19/2014 payout with ~1500 recipients
https://blockchain.info/tx/78d0abbc8dab58f78fb88686596e890a2bee71535bf3c34e50750b92f9528fe4

Here is the 10/26/2014 payout with ~2000 recipients
https://blockchain.info/tx/c752c063b9b5b6328844c2eaaf83ddcddc9d535f2279a25bc7c19b72ca0b68a8

I'm currently not able to use my wallet AT ALL. I continue to get the "Bitcoin isn't responding. Do you want to close it?" error message. This has been getting progressively worse and worse the last month to the point that now, my wallet is essentially locked and unusable. I'm not even able to back it up to take the priv keys to another wallet.

Can anyone do something about this? Anyone have a good relationship with the owner to convince him to put a bit more effort into his payouts and make multiple transactions?

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October 28, 2014, 04:56:44 PM
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Is it possibly an issue with your wallet or computer? I was getting a similar error with a hobo nickels wallet that turned out to be corrupted. 

I get payments each week myself and have had no issues. Of course my transaction volume is really low so I could be off base here.

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October 28, 2014, 05:00:01 PM
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I doubt it's the wallet, as a few friends use the android wallet as well with no issues. Only difference is, I'm getting PBMining payments and they are not.

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October 28, 2014, 05:01:22 PM
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Now that you mention it though, I'm going to check the setting of the wallet, and maybe there is some transaction advanced settings that might be causing it to "inspect" a little too much? or something of the like?

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October 28, 2014, 05:04:06 PM
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No such options Sad

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October 29, 2014, 05:16:12 AM
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No such options Sad

Sorry to hear that. I wish I could be more help. It might be worthwhile to try having them send payments to a paper wallet for a few weeks and see if your wallet works better in the mean time. If it does then you know those payments are the issue.

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October 29, 2014, 08:31:23 AM
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I doubt it's the wallet, as a few friends use the android wallet as well with no issues. Only difference is, I'm getting PBMining payments and they are not.

I can tell you this is a real problem and it is a known problem with the bitcoin wallet on android.
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October 30, 2014, 06:25:09 AM
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They are probably doing this to save on TX fees and to manage their unspent inputs.

You can get around this by using a third party online wallet service (like coinbase) to receive your payouts and then to withdraw your payout to your local wallet once the TX has enough confirmations for the service to allow for withdrawals.

The argument that you should always have possession of your private keys does not apply in this situation because you are already trusting pbmining with your mining power

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December 04, 2014, 01:36:35 AM
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I simply backed up the wallet, uninstalled the wallet app and reinstalled. Figured I could come back in a year or two Smiley

Wallet works fine now

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December 05, 2014, 01:46:03 AM
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I simply backed up the wallet, uninstalled the wallet app and reinstalled. Figured I could come back in a year or two Smiley

Wallet works fine now


i would just do what was described, try backing up and reinstalling it. thats the best bet unless you cant back up the balance then thats a different story..
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December 06, 2014, 01:34:40 PM
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Looks like you are not able to use the wallet without slowing down
You better copy wallet.dat / private key & use another wallet

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