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September 06, 2013, 01:50:10 PM |
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Can you calm down?
In am very calmly telling you that your highlighting in red the headline is only aggravating the situation. If no money was stolen why is it that you are listing our site under this calomnious thread title ? If there was "mass panic" acccording to you, why would you add to the panic by listing us under the thread ? Anyway your thread is bliss for our competitors (by that I mean mostly banksters). This is purely an informational thread.
No. This is truncated information amounting to libel. As an amateur journalist, you should check the "press" thread to read more professionnel versions of the same shit.
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September 06, 2013, 07:35:58 PM |
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Can you calm down?
In am very calmly telling you that your highlighting in red the headline is only aggravating the situation. If no money was stolen why is it that you are listing our site under this calomnious thread title ? If there was "mass panic" acccording to you, why would you add to the panic by listing us under the thread ? Anyway your thread is bliss for our competitors (by that I mean mostly banksters). This is purely an informational thread.
No. This is truncated information amounting to libel. As an amateur journalist, you should check the "press" thread to read more professionnel versions of the same shit. Where is this red headline? Oh, look, not in the OP. The OP is the only thing you must read. All else is discussion about the OP. You are not talking about the OP. Therefore, your post is off-topic.
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September 06, 2013, 10:05:57 PM |
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Wow, the amount of coins lost to scams is unbelievable
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October 08, 2013, 10:08:15 PM |
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Here's a tough one: the Ross Ulbricht seizure. It doesn't fit any of the words in the title, but it seems similar enough in that it was a forced transaction to which the sender did not consent. I'm thinking of listing in on the list and making a note that the seizure was authorized by US law. Does this make sense to everyone?
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October 08, 2013, 10:19:28 PM |
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Here's a tough one: the Ross Ulbricht seizure. It doesn't fit any of the words in the title, but it seems similar enough in that it was a forced transaction to which the sender did not consent. I'm thinking of listing in on the list and making a note that the seizure was authorized by US law. Does this make sense to everyone?
As you said: it doesn't fit any of the words! But it might be interesting to start a new thread: List of Major Bitcoin seizures/confiscations by LEAsThat would be interesting, it won't be the last one.. Why don't you? I would not have the time to keep it updated, but you seem good in that! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Cheers!
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October 08, 2013, 10:25:38 PM |
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I think you can safely add this to this thread. Some of the transactions that were occuring on SR were legitimate in the eyes of law (even if they were a minority).
There is also the word "Losses" in the topic title, so yeah, I think it's a great loss (>$3M) to people who stored their BTC there.
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October 09, 2013, 01:35:14 PM |
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I agree too, Ross lost a huge pile of Bitcoins. Sure, we can still watch them in the blockchain, and there are people with access to them - but it's not that much different to the other cases at all. Well, of course the 27k seized Bitcoins aren't strictly and solely Ross'. Still worth an entry. You might even count the 111k somewhere in the list. Just because Ross might never be able to practically access them, and with such a huge number that is of interest. It still teaches readers a lot about security, backups and inheriting.
All this is too crazy to not put on the list, somewhere! :-)
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October 09, 2013, 05:35:36 PM |
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I think you can safely add this to this thread. Some of the transactions that were occuring on SR were legitimate in the eyes of law (even if they were a minority). Yes I'd also include DPR's 26k into this listing. There is also the word "Losses" in the topic title, so yeah, I think it's a great loss (>$3M) to people who stored their BTC there.
However I'd remove the losses from this thread. There's another thread for that and the fact that coins are permanently lost is different from all the other cases here.
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October 12, 2013, 12:29:26 AM |
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I added Silk Road. There will be some tweaking to the list in the near future. Right now, the "severity" lists are terrible because of how volatile the BTC price is. Consequently, I will likely be adjusting the lists to order by June 2013 BTC (which seems to have stuck as a good baseline, because price was similar to today in June and in addition price was particularly stable).
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October 24, 2013, 10:19:14 PM |
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You guys are missing the bitcoinrain/mercadobitcoin 10~15k btc theft. bitcoinrain was basically a ponzi and mercadobitcoin(one exchange donator to bitcoin foundation) used adulterated fiat balance to gather coins. The operator of both sites excuse was this: he put all coins of bitcoirain in one account of his exchange www.mercadobitcoin.com.br because he though it was safer this way so he could go in a trip but unfortunatelly the website was hacked in his absence. guess what, the "hacking" event occurred during the bubble. withdrawals from his ponzi(bitcoinrain) were already halted many days prior the hacking event. After the heist of his exchange account that also held his ponzi coins no addresses were made public and since we is a known person and already threatened by government he tries to keep this as silent as possible, thus he aims at trying to keep everyone that had coins with him under control. His is promissing one payment plan pricing the coins at 180 brazilians real, about 80USD. He also held hostage any fiat balance people had on his exchange for more than 3 months after bubble popped, which is the reason I say he used to manipulate the sellings. profile of the suspect: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=10275Every coin sent to bitcoin rain accounts would first go to this address: https://blockchain.info/address/1FuiZdyNvJPy5pPdJMSNSoUhme3D6FmPppI just found this thread and will compile a more detailed version of the facts later.
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October 25, 2013, 06:20:40 AM |
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Also missing aethero defaulting on his Ziggap loan from BTCjam, currently has about 900BTC outstanding and also he stole some cash from someone that was supposed to be trading for BTC?
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October 25, 2013, 06:06:24 PM |
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FBI seized 144336.39449470 BTC from Ulbricht's wallet, over $28M at the time of the seizure:
Should be: FBI stole 144336.39449470 BTC from Ulbricht's wallet, over $28M at the time of the theft:
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October 25, 2013, 06:08:35 PM |
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FBI seized 144336.39449470 BTC from Ulbricht's wallet, over $28M at the time of the seizure:
Should be: FBI stole 144336.39449470 BTC from Ulbricht's wallet, over $28M at the time of the theft: I was hesitating how to word it exactly but I decided to stay a bit more neutral this time ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) To you and me this is considered a theft but to most people it's a seizure or confiscation (because FBI was operating within the law).
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October 25, 2013, 06:57:52 PM |
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I was hesitating how to word it exactly but I decided to stay a bit more neutral this time ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) To you and me this is considered a theft but to most people it's a seizure or confiscation (because FBI was operating within the law). Ya, keep the term 'seized'. The body of work is interesting enough to be discovered and evaluated, and it's in the community's interest that 99% of the general public does not see the community as consisting of foaming idiots.
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October 25, 2013, 07:04:24 PM |
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I was hesitating how to word it exactly but I decided to stay a bit more neutral this time ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) To you and me this is considered a theft but to most people it's a seizure or confiscation (because FBI was operating within the law). Ya, keep the term 'seized'. The body of work is interesting enough to be discovered and evaluated, and it's in the community's interest that 99% of the general public does not see the community as consisting of foaming idiots. agreed. i personally don't consider confiscation of a high tech drug dealer's bitcoin to be a theft, i consider it a lawful seizure of money gained through illicit and prohibited behavior.
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October 25, 2013, 09:55:15 PM |
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Yep, there's a lot. I will go through the new ones and add them once I have the time (which will be this weekend I hope). Keep the reports coming!
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October 30, 2013, 09:44:12 PM |
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You guys are missing the bitcoinrain/mercadobitcoin 10~15k btc theft. bitcoinrain was basically a ponzi and mercadobitcoin(one exchange donator to bitcoin foundation) used adulterated fiat balance to gather coins. The operator of both sites excuse was this: he put all coins of bitcoirain in one account of his exchange www.mercadobitcoin.com.br because he though it was safer this way so he could go in a trip but unfortunatelly the website was hacked in his absence. guess what, the "hacking" event occurred during the bubble. withdrawals from his ponzi(bitcoinrain) were already halted many days prior the hacking event. After the heist of his exchange account that also held his ponzi coins no addresses were made public and since we is a known person and already threatened by government he tries to keep this as silent as possible, thus he aims at trying to keep everyone that had coins with him under control. His is promissing one payment plan pricing the coins at 180 brazilians real, about 80USD. He also held hostage any fiat balance people had on his exchange for more than 3 months after bubble popped, which is the reason I say he used to manipulate the sellings. profile of the suspect: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=10275Every coin sent to bitcoin rain accounts would first go to this address: https://blockchain.info/address/1FuiZdyNvJPy5pPdJMSNSoUhme3D6FmPppI just found this thread and will compile a more detailed version of the facts later. Has been added. Others coming soon.
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November 06, 2013, 06:46:09 PM |
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judging from this list, does anyone have suggestions for whats currently most secure online wallet?
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