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June 11, 2011, 07:40:13 AM
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Well I think whatever does the trick. Elegance is for stuff that can wait. Difficulty doesn't lolx. I thought it might do the trick Smiley Although I'm not big a programmer. Hasn't really tried any of these whileidle yet though. still trying to migrate SSH Ubuntu and stuff from LinuxCoin which keeps loggin out for no apparent reason -.-

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June 20, 2011, 03:09:09 PM
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What do the flags "-g no" "-v" "-a 60" mean? Is there a list somewhere for all the possible flags that I can/should input?
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June 21, 2011, 08:44:39 PM
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-bump- anyone?  Huh
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June 24, 2011, 06:56:09 AM
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Hi,

I am really a fan of this program i have it running on the family machines and it does the job.

On some machines (note some, not all) I have an issue where once the user moves the mouse, a random open application will crash. This is most easily replicated with microsoft outlook, but sometimes its explorer.exe or firefox.exe. The issue also does not seem specific to any one flavor of windows, I have an XP machine doing it with outlook 2007 and a windows 7 x64 machine doing it with Outlook 2010.

I'm wondering if WhileIdle is inadvertently targeting and killing other processes that it shouldn't?

Anyone else using this experiencing this weird behavior?

Thanks,

Jim
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June 24, 2011, 07:09:32 AM
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What do the flags "-g no" "-v" "-a 60" mean? Is there a list somewhere for all the possible flags that I can/should input?

I think that is just an example he used. The flags line (line2) is there to manipulate the command line executable of the program you specify in line one. I don't think it does anything to change the behavior of WhileIdle.

Depending on what Video card you are using check this chart to see what other people are doing to get your optimum speed. (Older Radeons don't like vectors, "-v", newer cards can handle larger worksize, etc.)

Mining Hardware Chart:
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison

Poclbm Flags
http://forum.bitcoin.org/?topic=4122.0;wap2

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http://forum.bitcoin.org/?topic=2444.0

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June 24, 2011, 10:30:08 AM
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I'm using WhileIdle on two machines.

You should consider changing three changes:

  • WhileIdle is visible if you switch between programs with ALT+TAB, it should be hidden
  • There should be an option to hide WhileIdle from the task list (this is possible, I've done this years ago)
  • Alternatively make WhileIdle installable as a service, I used "Servify This" but it didn't work for some reasons
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June 25, 2011, 01:01:58 AM
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I'm using WhileIdle on two machines.

You should consider changing three changes:

  • WhileIdle is visible if you switch between programs with ALT+TAB, it should be hidden
  • There should be an option to hide WhileIdle from the task list (this is possible, I've done this years ago)
  • Alternatively make WhileIdle installable as a service, I used "Servify This" but it didn't work for some reasons

I also attempted to have WhileIdle run as a serivice to see if I could have it kick in if no users were logged in. (E.g. Windows updates @ 3am auto restarting the machine)
I was able to have it run as a serivice and activate poclbm, but it kicked in instantly (didnt want the 10 mins) and it was using the CPU as the openCL Device instead of the ATI card. It also did not seem responsive to mouse movements, it kept running instead of killing the process.

My dream would be a hidden, run as a service, remote reporting & managable bitcoin client that also had extra goodies built in like automatic memory clock frequency changing, thermal limits, fan speed controls, time of day settings, etc.
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June 25, 2011, 10:17:38 AM
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Above^^

Agree!!! That would be the future! Plus built in super protected wallet ect! One day soon!


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June 27, 2011, 12:09:21 AM
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why is this thing 10 mb big?

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June 27, 2011, 12:33:04 AM
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I also attempted to have WhileIdle run as a serivice to see if I could have it kick in if no users were logged in. (E.g. Windows updates @ 3am auto restarting the machine)
I was able to have it run as a serivice and activate poclbm, but it kicked in instantly (didnt want the 10 mins) and it was using the CPU as the openCL Device instead of the ATI card. It also did not seem responsive to mouse movements, it kept running instead of killing the process.

My dream would be a hidden, run as a service, remote reporting & managable bitcoin client that also had extra goodies built in like automatic memory clock frequency changing, thermal limits, fan speed controls, time of day settings, etc.

Running as a service is one thing, but a miner won't be able to work on Windows unless someone is physically logged in. Windows does not allocate the video card drivers until someone does. This is why miners only see the CPU available. The same is true if you RDP into a machine and try to mine as well.

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June 28, 2011, 01:37:05 AM
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Running as a service is one thing, but a miner won't be able to work on Windows unless someone is physically logged in. Windows does not allocate the video card drivers until someone does. This is why miners only see the CPU available. The same is true if you RDP into a machine and try to mine as well.

Yes, that is very annoying.

How would one fake a physical user login, and trick the Windows into initializing OpenCL?

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June 28, 2011, 02:46:17 AM
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I'm very new to this and I was wondering if anyone could help me. The 2nd line doesn't seem to work as the this app will start guiminer for me but not activate mining.
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June 29, 2011, 10:19:39 PM
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I don't understand why this is not working right.  Sure, it runs guiminer, but guiminer just sits there doing nothing.  Normally the task manager tells me the CPU is at 100% when a miner is running.  But the CPU just idles after guiminer starts.  Nothing happens.  How do I set guiminer to automatically start a miner?
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June 30, 2011, 12:23:43 AM
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I don't understand why this is not working right.  Sure, it runs guiminer, but guiminer just sits there doing nothing.  Normally the task manager tells me the CPU is at 100% when a miner is running.  But the CPU just idles after guiminer starts.  Nothing happens.  How do I set guiminer to automatically start a miner?

I have the exact same issue although I'm trying to run the GPU instead.
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June 30, 2011, 06:23:41 PM
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I don't understand why this is not working right.  Sure, it runs guiminer, but guiminer just sits there doing nothing.  Normally the task manager tells me the CPU is at 100% when a miner is running.  But the CPU just idles after guiminer starts.  Nothing happens.  How do I set guiminer to automatically start a miner?

I have the exact same issue although I'm trying to run the GPU instead.

Yah, I can't use my GPU, because even though I finally managed to get OpenCL installed, none of the OpenCL miners actually say I have an OpenCL capable GPU, so they just use the CPU anyway, might as well not have OpenCL. Sad

I just figured out how to make guiminer automatically start a miner, I had forgotten about something I saw back when I first started using guiminer.  Run guiminer manually, then click on View menu, and Show Summary, which shows you all your miners in one window... along with Auto Start checkboxes for them.  Click which ever ones you want to auto start as soon as guiminer starts, and there you go.  And now I'm wondering why whileidle always shuts itself off when the system stops being idle, I thought it would only shut off the guiminer, which it does brilliantly by the way.  So since whileidle shuts off every time, I can't count on it to always be running, so, I'm going to try using the built in Scheduled Tasks system for windows.  I've used it before, it always works great.  I've set it up just now to run guiminer Only when Idle, and to shut off guiminer when the computer is no longer idle.  Plus, it has a great feature of never running this CPU intensive process on battery power. Smiley

Ok, System Scheduler is great at shutting down guiminer when the system isn't idle anymore, but does not shut down the miners that guiminer is running, so, I changed it to run whileidle.exe instead, and that is working out great.  One problem with whileidle I forgot to mention, in the settings file for it, when I switch it to not hide the program it's running, well, it still hides it.  The guiminer icon appears in the system taskbar, but no window pops up so I can see the khash/s. Sad
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August 16, 2011, 01:36:10 AM
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I just want to contact a member called "SleepMachine". he has a thread about an app he created called "whileidle" which I need to ask a question about.

Basically, when i run the app with the hidden mode enabled, when the computer comes back from idle it closes which ever program has focus. its a bug that i wanted to know if he could fix.

Post reply here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=37352.0
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August 18, 2011, 10:57:19 PM
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Yes you are experiencing the same issue that I was. You can get the gui miner to come up in a command prompt if you first create a bat file

start cmd /c c:\yourpath\guiminer.exe

and then call that bat file from whileidle which works great up until the time that the system becomes un-idle. that is when whenidle errors off and the process dies.


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January 08, 2014, 10:25:04 PM
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Where can I find this file. A lot of people use my desktop machine and they keep closing cgminer this will work nicely as my machines always on

Many thanks in advance
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February 18, 2014, 11:24:24 AM
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I will see if i can find it on my old computer and repost the link

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February 21, 2014, 09:05:58 AM
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nice idea! I might give this a try on the weekends when I use my main mining rig for games.
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