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October 30, 2014, 06:46:10 PM
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WASHINGTON—The White House is considering two central requirements in deciding which of the nation’s 11 million illegal immigrants would gain protections through an expected executive action: a minimum length of time in the U.S., and a person’s family ties to others in the country, said people familiar with the administration’s thinking.

Those requirements, depending on how broadly they are drawn, could offer protection to between one million and four million people in the country illegally.

The deliberations follow President Barack Obama ’s promise to act to change the immigration system, after legislation overhauling immigration law died in Congress.

More...http://online.wsj.com/articles/obama-may-cut-deportations-1414626089

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October 30, 2014, 06:57:18 PM
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Sessions: 'The World Has Turned Upside Down'


Senator Jeff Sessions will soon release this statement in response to a report in the Wall Street Journal that details President Obama's plans to unilaterally implement amnesty.

"The Wall Street Journal confirmed today that the President is planning to issue a massive unilateral executive amnesty after the election.

"In its report, the WSJ certifies that this executive amnesty would provide work permits for illegal immigrants—taking jobs directly from struggling Americans.

"Based on the USCIS contract bid and statements from USCIS employees, we know this executive immigration order is likely to be broader in scope than anyone has imagined.

"Earlier this week, President Obama’s former head of Homeland Security revealed that she overrode resistance from administration lawyers and law enforcement agents in implementing the President’s earlier unlawful amnesty and work authorization program for illegal immigrants 30 and under. This was an open admission by one of the most senior people in government of violating one’s oath of office in order to accomplish a nakedly political aim.

"The President is assuming for himself the sole and absolute power to decide who can enter, work, live, and claim benefits in the United States. He has exempted virtually every group in the world from America’s immigration laws: people who enter before a certain age, people related to people who enter before a certain age, adults traveling with minors, minors traveling with adults, illegal immigrants who are not convicted of serious crimes, illegal workers who are convicted of serious crimes but not enough serious crimes, almost anyone who shows up the border and demands asylum, the millions who overstay their visas, and, as was recently exposed, illegal immigrants with serious criminal histories. The list continues to grow.

"A nation creates borders and laws to protect its own citizens. What about their needs?

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/sessions-world-has-turned-upside-down_817731.html


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October 30, 2014, 08:05:01 PM
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Sessions: 'The World Has Turned Upside Down'


Senator Jeff Sessions will soon release this statement in response to a report in the Wall Street Journal that details President Obama's plans to unilaterally implement amnesty.

"The Wall Street Journal confirmed today that the President is planning to issue a massive unilateral executive amnesty after the election.

"In its report, the WSJ certifies that this executive amnesty would provide work permits for illegal immigrants—taking jobs directly from struggling Americans.

"Based on the USCIS contract bid and statements from USCIS employees, we know this executive immigration order is likely to be broader in scope than anyone has imagined.

"Earlier this week, President Obama’s former head of Homeland Security revealed that she overrode resistance from administration lawyers and law enforcement agents in implementing the President’s earlier unlawful amnesty and work authorization program for illegal immigrants 30 and under. This was an open admission by one of the most senior people in government of violating one’s oath of office in order to accomplish a nakedly political aim.

"The President is assuming for himself the sole and absolute power to decide who can enter, work, live, and claim benefits in the United States. He has exempted virtually every group in the world from America’s immigration laws: people who enter before a certain age, people related to people who enter before a certain age, adults traveling with minors, minors traveling with adults, illegal immigrants who are not convicted of serious crimes, illegal workers who are convicted of serious crimes but not enough serious crimes, almost anyone who shows up the border and demands asylum, the millions who overstay their visas, and, as was recently exposed, illegal immigrants with serious criminal histories. The list continues to grow.

"A nation creates borders and laws to protect its own citizens. What about their needs?

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/sessions-world-has-turned-upside-down_817731.html



At some point there has to be pushback against these executive orders, or we have de facto fascism.
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October 30, 2014, 08:23:27 PM
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Sessions: 'The World Has Turned Upside Down'


Senator Jeff Sessions will soon release this statement in response to a report in the Wall Street Journal that details President Obama's plans to unilaterally implement amnesty.

"The Wall Street Journal confirmed today that the President is planning to issue a massive unilateral executive amnesty after the election.

"In its report, the WSJ certifies that this executive amnesty would provide work permits for illegal immigrants—taking jobs directly from struggling Americans.

"Based on the USCIS contract bid and statements from USCIS employees, we know this executive immigration order is likely to be broader in scope than anyone has imagined.

"Earlier this week, President Obama’s former head of Homeland Security revealed that she overrode resistance from administration lawyers and law enforcement agents in implementing the President’s earlier unlawful amnesty and work authorization program for illegal immigrants 30 and under. This was an open admission by one of the most senior people in government of violating one’s oath of office in order to accomplish a nakedly political aim.

"The President is assuming for himself the sole and absolute power to decide who can enter, work, live, and claim benefits in the United States. He has exempted virtually every group in the world from America’s immigration laws: people who enter before a certain age, people related to people who enter before a certain age, adults traveling with minors, minors traveling with adults, illegal immigrants who are not convicted of serious crimes, illegal workers who are convicted of serious crimes but not enough serious crimes, almost anyone who shows up the border and demands asylum, the millions who overstay their visas, and, as was recently exposed, illegal immigrants with serious criminal histories. The list continues to grow.

"A nation creates borders and laws to protect its own citizens. What about their needs?

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/sessions-world-has-turned-upside-down_817731.html



At some point there has to be pushback against these executive orders, or we have de facto fascism.

... Or we already do.

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October 31, 2014, 01:58:27 AM
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The last 100 years have been a steady progression in the expansion of executive power. In terms of the history of this country, the idea that the president is expected to wield as much power as he does is relatively new. It was never intended to be this way, but as the progression has been gradual, we've been acclimated to it. When things are going wrong, the public wants one person to have the power to 'fix it,' and someone to blame when it's not. Basically, we want to elect our king and expect him not to be corruptible by the power he wields, but when in the history of the world has this ever been the case?
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October 31, 2014, 04:28:58 AM
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This stupid step will alter the American demography irreversibly, and in the long term will reduce the US to a third world nation. Less number of tax payers and an ever increasing number of social parasites can never be a good sign.
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October 31, 2014, 12:19:52 PM
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Cool! We might start spreading this information between the gypsies in central/eastern Europe. Perhaps with some hints about the generous US benefit system ...and we shall take our countries back Smiley.
BTW Obama and Co. keep bashing us about how badly we treating those poor souls, so it would be time to show us how to deal with them properly Smiley.
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October 31, 2014, 05:11:08 PM
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This stupid step will alter the American demography irreversibly, and in the long term will reduce the US to a third world nation. Less number of tax payers and an ever increasing number of social parasites can never be a good sign.

People have been warning about immigrants destroying America since there was an America. A little reality check is in order.
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October 31, 2014, 05:41:51 PM
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The Nobel Prize winner will fix it....
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November 01, 2014, 02:44:21 AM
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The Nobel Prize winner will fix it....
Obama's nobel prize was actually revoked.

Obama has shown a disregard for the law and the constitution, so I don't see why anyone would be surprised that he is willing to disregard the constitution in this situation. Liberals have always wanted more illegal immigrants in this country so when they do become citizens they can take advantage of social programs and legally vote democrat, and before they become citizens they can cast illegal votes for democrats (this is the main reason why liberals are against voter ID laws)
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November 04, 2014, 06:26:02 PM
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The Nobel Prize winner will fix it....
Obama's nobel prize was actually revoked.

Wth, no it wasn't.  Huh
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November 09, 2014, 07:55:52 AM
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I think Obama gives amnesty step is a step that is not bad, generous and willing to give a second chance for amnesty recipients is a generosity given by President Obama, in fact a lot of interest from the Obama of giving amnesty to immigrants, ahead of the next election Obama needs support sound, so this can be one way that Obama can win the next election ...  Cool

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November 11, 2014, 05:16:10 AM
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The Nobel Prize winner will fix it....
Obama's nobel prize was actually revoked.

Wth, no it wasn't.  Huh
Yes, the nobel committee asked for it back, essentially revoking it

http://www.thefinaledition.com/article/nobel-committee-asks-obama-nicely-to-return-peace-prize.html

This was the 2nd result (below wikipedia) when searching google for 'obama nobel peace prize'
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November 11, 2014, 07:35:49 AM
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I think Obama gives amnesty step is a step that is not bad, generous and willing to give a second chance for amnesty recipients is a generosity given by President Obama, in fact a lot of interest from the Obama of giving amnesty to immigrants, ahead of the next election Obama needs support sound, so this can be one way that Obama can win the next election ...  Cool

The administration knows hooking the people on as many government programs as possible is the way to their success.

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November 11, 2014, 01:52:59 PM
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I think Obama gives amnesty step is a step that is not bad, generous and willing to give a second chance for amnesty recipients is a generosity given by President Obama, in fact a lot of interest from the Obama of giving amnesty to immigrants, ahead of the next election Obama needs support sound, so this can be one way that Obama can win the next election ...  Cool

The administration knows hooking the people on as many government programs as possible is the way to their success.

This is further proof that Obama does NOT have the AMERICAN PEOPLES best interests in mind, only looking for a way to get people to bow down to his supreme power.  Allowing 11+ million ILLEGALS to stay here pretty much guarantees they will agree with everything his says no matter what, because they will see him as their "savior."  Its all just a ploy to boost his "support"
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I think Obama gives amnesty step is a step that is not bad, generous and willing to give a second chance for amnesty recipients is a generosity given by President Obama, in fact a lot of interest from the Obama of giving amnesty to immigrants, ahead of the next election Obama needs support sound, so this can be one way that Obama can win the next election ...  Cool

The administration knows hooking the people on as many government programs as possible is the way to their success.

This is further proof that Obama does NOT have the AMERICAN PEOPLES best interests in mind, only looking for a way to get people to bow down to his supreme power.  Allowing 11+ million ILLEGALS to stay here pretty much guarantees they will agree with everything his says no matter what, because they will see him as their "savior."  Its all just a ploy to boost his "support"
He wants more people to be in the country to vote so they can help elect his liberal allies
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November 12, 2014, 01:17:29 PM
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I think Obama gives amnesty step is a step that is not bad, generous and willing to give a second chance for amnesty recipients is a generosity given by President Obama, in fact a lot of interest from the Obama of giving amnesty to immigrants, ahead of the next election Obama needs support sound, so this can be one way that Obama can win the next election ...  Cool

The administration knows hooking the people on as many government programs as possible is the way to their success.

This is further proof that Obama does NOT have the AMERICAN PEOPLES best interests in mind, only looking for a way to get people to bow down to his supreme power.  Allowing 11+ million ILLEGALS to stay here pretty much guarantees they will agree with everything his says no matter what, because they will see him as their "savior."  Its all just a ploy to boost his "support"
He wants more people to be in the country to vote so they can help elect his liberal allies

Yup, they have lost the support of the American people as shown by the recent elections, so they are trying to basically buy the support of what should be "illegals" by allowing them to stay here and suck the middle class dry
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The last 100 years have been a steady progression in the expansion of executive power. In terms of the history of this country, the idea that the president is expected to wield as much power as he does is relatively new. It was never intended to be this way, but as the progression has been gradual, we've been acclimated to it. When things are going wrong, the public wants one person to have the power to 'fix it,' and someone to blame when it's not. Basically, we want to elect our king and expect him not to be corruptible by the power he wields, but when in the history of the world has this ever been the case?

No, we have not been acclimatized to it.  No, we don't want one person to fix it.  No, we don't want to elect our king.

The ABUSE of executive power by Obama is widely acknowledged and is completely unprecedented.
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November 12, 2014, 07:59:35 PM
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The Nobel Prize winner will fix it....
Obama's nobel prize was actually revoked.

Wth, no it wasn't.  Huh
Yes, the nobel committee asked for it back, essentially revoking it

http://www.thefinaledition.com/article/nobel-committee-asks-obama-nicely-to-return-peace-prize.html

This was the 2nd result (below wikipedia) when searching google for 'obama nobel peace prize'

Gosh, I hate to break this to you, but that's a satire site. This passage of the article gives it away:

But, he revealed the committee members were all “legless drunk” the day they voted, as it was the start of Norway’s annual aquavit-tasting festival. The “totally toasted” members listened over and over to replays of Obama’s Cairo speech, tearing up and drinking shots to the glorious future: a black man leading America and the world into a new era of peace, hope and goodwill. “For a few hours we were all 18 year-old students again at the beautiful, occasionally sunny University of Bergen! Oh, how we cried for joy!”

But in case you need explicit proof, see this: http://www.thefinaledition.com/page/why-we-are.html

Obama was not asked for his Nobel Prize back.
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November 12, 2014, 08:11:39 PM
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The last 100 years have been a steady progression in the expansion of executive power. In terms of the history of this country, the idea that the president is expected to wield as much power as he does is relatively new. It was never intended to be this way, but as the progression has been gradual, we've been acclimated to it. When things are going wrong, the public wants one person to have the power to 'fix it,' and someone to blame when it's not. Basically, we want to elect our king and expect him not to be corruptible by the power he wields, but when in the history of the world has this ever been the case?

No, we have not been acclimatized to it.  No, we don't want one person to fix it.  No, we don't want to elect our king.

The ABUSE of executive power by Obama is widely acknowledged and is completely unprecedented.

Except when Bush was treading on the Constitution by doing all the same things Obama has done. Except when Reagan was sending troops into conflict without authorization from Congress. Except when FDR created the New Deal and interfered with the Supreme Court in order to implement it. Except when Lincoln suspended habeas corpus. Except when Jackson enacted martial law or openly defied the Supreme Court.

Yeah, please tell me again how Obama's power grabs are "completely unprecedented."   Roll Eyes
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