Bitcoin Forum
June 19, 2024, 05:08:44 PM *
News: Voting for pizza day contest
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: [1] 2 3 4 »  All
  Print  
Author Topic: Is there any hope for bitcoin? Possible solutions?  (Read 4694 times)
jsmit332 (OP)
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 792
Merit: 1001


Video editing • Animated GIFs • Graphic Design


View Profile
October 31, 2014, 07:01:21 PM
Last edit: October 31, 2014, 07:43:10 PM by jsmit332
 #1

Does anyone think the price of bitcoin will ever go back up to a respectable price? I just think that the bitcoin community are fighting a downward slope on a graph. To be honest it's a no-brainer there is too much sell pressure rather than buy pressure.

Think of it this way, if you were looking to buy something why would you use bitcoin when you can just use your card? That also only applies to the small amount of sites that actually accept bit coin. However is adoption a good thing? When dell started to accept bitcoin the value went down. This is probably because they were selling their bitcoin so that they can spend it. I mean in late 2013 the reason most people brought bitcoin is to buy mining rigs to "generate" "free money" that can then sold to the fiat equivalent. Now mining is becoming less profitable there is now virtually no buy pressure except for people who buy bitcoin as an investment like gold.

In my eyes for the value to increase we need to increase buy pressure. To do this we need to have HUGE levels of adoption in close succession as small amounts of adoption spread out is actually detrimental to the bitcoin value. There are rumours of E bay and Pay Pal accepting bitcoin this could go either way I think it could create another BOOM or kill bitcoin. This is even if these rumors are true.

And then we have the whole thing with regulation. Most agree that this will be very bad for the value but some people think this might be good as it might attract the more sceptical people.

All i'm doing is thinking out loud. Do any of you have any opinions on the bitcoin value, short and long term. Do any of you have any idea as to what might make the future of bitcoin better? I'd love to hear them.
MrBig
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 369
Merit: 250



View Profile
October 31, 2014, 07:51:20 PM
 #2

I think it comes down to a matter of supply and demand. The average person who is interested in possibly getting into btc will ask themselves 'why do I need this thing?' Earlier, when many new users were adopting btc, the answer for many was because 'woah, maybe I can get rich off of this new thing!' Now it's sort of 'Meh, this thing lost 70% of it's value in 10 months. Too risky for me.'

There are of course many other reasons that people got into btc that I didn't list and don't care to get into. The main thing is that for the price to recover, there has to be increased demand for btc, and for that to happen, newcomers have to see something in btc that would make them want it. The people here can crow all day about how btc is the greatest thing since sliced cheese but that doesn't matter, as these people have already adopted btc. We need fresh demand for btc if it is to continue to grow.
jsmit332 (OP)
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 792
Merit: 1001


Video editing • Animated GIFs • Graphic Design


View Profile
October 31, 2014, 08:03:35 PM
 #3

I think it comes down to a matter of supply and demand. The average person who is interested in possibly getting into btc will ask themselves 'why do I need this thing?' Earlier, when many new users were adopting btc, the answer for many was because 'woah, maybe I can get rich off of this new thing!' Now it's sort of 'Meh, this thing lost 70% of it's value in 10 months. Too risky for me.'

There are of course many other reasons that people got into btc that I didn't list and don't care to get into. The main thing is that for the price to recover, there has to be increased demand for btc, and for that to happen, newcomers have to see something in btc that would make them want it. The people here can crow all day about how btc is the greatest thing since sliced cheese but that doesn't matter, as these people have already adopted btc. We need fresh demand for btc if it is to continue to grow.

Exactly. I think bitcoin could do with more exposure and have more people accepting them. If big companies like steam and such start accepting them much more people would adopt bitcoin.
Wilhelm
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1652
Merit: 1265



View Profile
October 31, 2014, 09:43:56 PM
 #4

OP why don't you start thinking for yourself. What is Bitcoin worth to you?

In my opinion Bitcoin is like mobile phones. It will take some years to develop the infrastructure and get people to use it.

We are here


And the potential is

Bitcoin is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get !!
markj113
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2254
Merit: 1043



View Profile
October 31, 2014, 09:46:37 PM
 #5

I hope bitcoin doesn't end up all locked down and controlled like apple products  Grin
jsmit332 (OP)
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 792
Merit: 1001


Video editing • Animated GIFs • Graphic Design


View Profile
October 31, 2014, 10:27:21 PM
 #6

OP why don't you start thinking for yourself. What is Bitcoin worth to you?

In my opinion Bitcoin is like mobile phones. It will take some years to develop the infrastructure and get people to use it.

We are here


And the potential is


I am thinking for myself, I just wondered what other people think.
inca
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1176
Merit: 1000


View Profile
October 31, 2014, 10:47:22 PM
 #7

I am thinking for myself, I just wondered what other people think.

Bitcoin is either great value and imminently about to moon. Or it could go to zero. Place your bets accordingly!
Wilhelm
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1652
Merit: 1265



View Profile
October 31, 2014, 10:51:31 PM
 #8

I hope bitcoin doesn't end up all locked down and controlled like apple products  Grin

LOL!!!  Cheesy

Bitcoin is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get !!
Wilhelm
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1652
Merit: 1265



View Profile
October 31, 2014, 10:53:38 PM
 #9


I am thinking for myself, I just wondered what other people think.

I believe in Bitcoin and that's why I'm holding some.
I never got round to using it on a daily basis due to the fact that I believe I will regret using it for pizza Smiley

Bitcoin is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get !!
november85
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3
Merit: 0


View Profile
October 31, 2014, 11:21:31 PM
 #10

Bitcoin is dead. Apple came in with a competing product.

I was banking on people's stupidity to buy into this pyramid. It turns out people aren't as stupid as I thought and aren't buying into this pyramid like I thought they would.

Cryptocurrency is an amazing invention with a ton of potential. But just only using bitcoin is crazy, it's a pyramid. The power of cryptocurrency comes from buying in a basket.
exocytosis
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 476
Merit: 250


View Profile
October 31, 2014, 11:25:33 PM
 #11

Does anyone think the price of bitcoin will ever go back up to a respectable price?


Currently, Bitcoin is ridiculously overvalued. A respectable price would be somewhere in the single digit range, and that's the price Bitcoin is going back to. It'll be a slow and painful decline with a lot of bulltraps along the way. It might take months or years to get there, but we'll get there eventually. Together.


exocytosis
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 476
Merit: 250


View Profile
October 31, 2014, 11:33:23 PM
 #12

OP why don't you start thinking for yourself. What is Bitcoin worth to you?

In my opinion Bitcoin is like mobile phones. It will take some years to develop the infrastructure and get people to use it.

We are here




No. That's a Nokia 3310, and the mobile market was already enormous by the time that model was launched. Hundreds of millions of people owned mobile phones back then. Bitcoin is a whopping six years old now, and has only managed to attract a couple of hundred thousand people -- mostly nerds, libertarians, cultists, bulltards, scammers and criminals. The Average Joe immediately saw utility in mobile phones, and those same Joes have rejected Bitcoin, since Bitcoin has zero utility compared to things like fiat, gold and credit cards.
Bitcoin adoption is falling, a fact proven by the steadily declining price. It's just a simple matter of supply and demand. Nothing more.

november85
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3
Merit: 0


View Profile
October 31, 2014, 11:40:11 PM
 #13

OP why don't you start thinking for yourself. What is Bitcoin worth to you?

In my opinion Bitcoin is like mobile phones. It will take some years to develop the infrastructure and get people to use it.

We are here
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fa/Nokia_3310.jpg/266px-Nokia_3310.jpg



No. That's a Nokia 3310, and the mobile market was already enormous by the time that model was launched. Hundreds of millions of people owned mobile phones back then. Bitcoin is a whopping six years old now, and has only managed to attract a couple of hundred thousand people -- mostly nerds, libertarians, cultists, bulltards, scammers and criminals. The Average Joe immediately saw utility in mobile phones, and those same Joes have rejected Bitcoin, since Bitcoin has zero utility compared to things like fiat, gold and credit cards.
Bitcoin adoption is falling, a fact proven by the steadily declining price. It's just a simple matter of supply and demand. Nothing more.



This is true. Mostly nerds, libertarians, cultists, bulltards, scammers and criminals are the only ones that have utility for this now, but eventually all will find utility. Their utility will come not from bitcoin, but from a basket of crypto or whatever currency is viable then. It's simply crazy and illogical to concentrate so much value in just one currency, especially bitcoin which is so drastically concentrated. The utility is there, but in a basket of these, not bitcoin in particular.
kresu
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 326
Merit: 250


View Profile
October 31, 2014, 11:58:34 PM
 #14

OP why don't you start thinking for yourself. What is Bitcoin worth to you?

In my opinion Bitcoin is like mobile phones. It will take some years to develop the infrastructure and get people to use it.

We are here


And the potential is


Good parallel!

But I think we are still somewhere about here:
MrBig
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 369
Merit: 250



View Profile
November 01, 2014, 01:38:31 AM
 #15

No. That's a Nokia 3310, and the mobile market was already enormous by the time that model was launched. Hundreds of millions of people owned mobile phones back then. Bitcoin is a whopping six years old now, and has only managed to attract a couple of hundred thousand people -- mostly nerds, libertarians, cultists, bulltards, scammers and criminals. The Average Joe immediately saw utility in mobile phones, and those same Joes have rejected Bitcoin, since Bitcoin has zero utility compared to things like fiat, gold and credit cards.
Bitcoin adoption is falling, a fact proven by the steadily declining price. It's just a simple matter of supply and demand. Nothing more.



I wonder which one of those categories I fall under, as I still own a few btc  Cheesy
tss
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 742
Merit: 500


View Profile
November 01, 2014, 02:08:53 AM
 #16

bitcoin is already at a very respectable price
thereason2009
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1
Merit: 0


View Profile
November 01, 2014, 02:24:29 AM
 #17

No. That's a Nokia 3310, and the mobile market was already enormous by the time that model was launched. Hundreds of millions of people owned mobile phones back then. Bitcoin is a whopping six years old now, and has only managed to attract a couple of hundred thousand people -- mostly nerds, libertarians, cultists, bulltards, scammers and criminals. The Average Joe immediately saw utility in mobile phones, and those same Joes have rejected Bitcoin, since Bitcoin has zero utility compared to things like fiat, gold and credit cards.
Bitcoin adoption is falling, a fact proven by the steadily declining price. It's just a simple matter of supply and demand. Nothing more.

http://cdn.meme.li/instances/300x300/55839924.jpg

I wonder which one of those categories I fall under, as I still own a few btc  Cheesy

You must be a nerd since you sound too boring to be a criminal
Room101
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 541
Merit: 362


Rules not Rulers


View Profile
November 01, 2014, 02:28:41 AM
 #18

I see very little reason for people in USA to buy bitcoin to use as a currency. For the rest of us though, it makes a lot of sense. Paypal makes on 2 -5 % on currency conversion, which is a lot when buying laptops etc. Once more and more companies accept it on world wide sales, it will grow strongly, simply cause it is both a pain in the ass and expensive to buy stuff from the USA when you dont live there. I have american address and credit card purely for amazon etc buying, it's a pain. Will be interesting to see what happens when Dell lets everyone use bitcoin, i think they will see a lot more sales than they do now, because it makes so much more sense for bitcoin purchases in the rest of the world.

Bitcoin is the greatest form of protest there is. Vote in the only way that really counts: with your money.
cbeast
Donator
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1736
Merit: 1006

Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.


View Profile
November 01, 2014, 02:49:55 AM
 #19

Does anyone think the price of bitcoin will ever go back up to a respectable price?


Currently, Bitcoin is ridiculously overvalued. A respectable price would be somewhere in the single digit range, and that's the price Bitcoin is going back to. It'll be a slow and painful decline with a lot of bulltraps along the way. It might take months or years to get there, but we'll get there eventually. Together.



Can't you fantasize about sex like normal people?

Any significantly advanced cryptocurrency is indistinguishable from Ponzi Tulips.
JimboToronto
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 4046
Merit: 4589


You're never too old to think young.


View Profile
November 01, 2014, 03:02:20 AM
 #20

Does anyone think the price of bitcoin will ever go back up to a respectable price?


Currently, Bitcoin is ridiculously overvalued. A respectable price would be somewhere in the single digit range, and that's the price Bitcoin is going back to. It'll be a slow and painful decline with a lot of bulltraps along the way. It might take months or years to get there, but we'll get there eventually. Together.



Can't you fantasize about sex like normal people?

LOL

Do you really expect the bears to give up their wishful-thinking fantasy world of blue and pink ponies, single-digit bitcoins and rainbow unicorns?

No wonder so many are Bronies. Together.

 Grin
Pages: [1] 2 3 4 »  All
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!