BFL UNIT 832 DEVICES

[lightlord]

Hello on BFL site it clearly states Delivery: Units are shipped within four to six weeks from the date of purchase.
Meaning 28-42 Days.


Mine got shipped in 60 days. Does BFL offer any compensation for this?
For breaking their *are* which means *will*, isn't it breaking a promise?
I ordered 4 in total. They should either offer another BFL unit for free
for going past their date info. Which 4-6 weeks is clearly false.

It should of said it may be 4-6 or more. It just says 4-6 weeks.

I would like some compensation for mining loss times.
BFL would be nice to offer another BFL unit for free to ship as of this.

Best regards
Lightlord

[1714811994]

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[rjk]

Why are you asking us?

[lightlord]

Why are you asking us?

Because a lot of you have also gotten this?

BFL Mini-Rig "wait list" thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=76916.0

Moved the post from the other thread to this one for quicker access.

If you have found this list useful and are feeling generous, please tip to the address in my signature.  Any amount would be much appreciated.  Either way, I will continue to keep the list up to date even after I receive my own singles.

Wait time added ( 6 weeks is 42 days)

To be added to list, post your order date, quantity(optional) and when they come in your shipped date.

Date Ordered	Quantity	Received	Wait Time	User
11/4/2011	1	3/5/2012	122	rjk
11/16/2011	10	3/5/2012	110	jddebug
12/16/2011	1	3/9/2012	84	k.a.t
12/26/2011		3/16/2012	81	xDGDZEx
1/4/2012	1	4/10/2012	97	sysrun
1/6/2012	2	4/10/2012	95	p_shep
1/6/2012	1	4/10/2012	95	Inspector 2211
1/8/2012	1	4/12/2012	95	bitcowok
1/10/2012		4/12/2012	93	enquirer
1/13/2012	2	4/12/2012	90	btc-engineer
1/14/2012	4	4/11/2012	88	fefox
1/23/2012		4/12/2012	80	preperation
1/24/2012	1	4/17/2012	84	Inspector 2211
1/26/2012	1	4/14/2012	79	TheLittleDuke
1/27/2012	2	4/17/2012	81	Inspector 2211
1/30/2012	4	4/19/2012	80	fefox
1/30/2012	5	4/20/2012	81	zefir
1/31/2012	10	4/26/2012	86	antirack
2/1/2012	1	4/17/2012	76	JDBound
2/13/2012	1	4/28/2012	73	marks1976
2/14/2012		5/4/2012	80	nbtcminer
2/14/2012	3	4/23/2012	69	tarrant_01
2/14/2012	2			heavyb
2/15/2012	2			Drome
2/17/2012	2	4/30/2012	73	p_shep
2/20/2012	3	5/1/2012	71	phraust
2/22/2012		5/1/2012	69	abbeytim
2/22/2012	1	4/30/2012	68	ognasty
2/23/2012	2	5/1/2012	68	coblee
2/23/2012	3	5/1/2012	68	sysrun
2/23/2012	2	5/4/2012	71	marks1976
2/24/2012	1			silverbox
2/24/2012	2	5/3/2012	69	theotherguy
2/25/2012	2	5/2/2012	67	wknight
2/29/2012	1	5/9/2012	70	wogaut
2/29/2012	1	5/3/2012	64	askit2
3/2/2012	7	5/11/2012	70	phraust
3/2/2012	1	5/7/2012	66	kjilmo
3/2/2012	1	5/5/2012	64	tamerz
3/7/2012	1	~5/10/2012	64	kibblesnbits
3/7/2012	4	~5/10/2012	64	nedbert9
3/7/2012	1	5/18/2012	72	paul troon
3/8/2012	1	5/8/2012	61	fuuka
3/8/2012	6	5/17/2012	70	lightbox
3/9/2012	3			cablepair
3/9/2012	4	~5/10/2012	62	kibblesnbits
3/10/2012	4	~5/14/2012	65	jddebug
3/12/2012	2			heavyb
3/12/2012	1	5/14/2012	63	LivTru
3/13/2012	1	5/18/2012	66	despoiler
3/13/2012	10			scared
3/13/2012	10	5/14/2012	62	SgtSpike
3/14/2012	2	~5/21/2012	68	turbor
3/14/2012	2	5/18/2012	65	dropt
3/14/2012	2			PulsedMedia
3/15/2012	1	5/18/2012	64	NothinG
3/16/2012	2	5/17/2012	62	dave3
3/16/2012	1	5/18/2012	63	unacceptable
3/16/2012	2	5/17/2012	62	p_shep
3/17/2012	1	5/18/2012	62	abeaulieu
3/19/2012	1	5/18/2012	60	BitMinerN8
3/22/2012	1	5/19/2012	58	guruvan
3/22/2012	3	5/24/2012	63	kuma
3/22/2012	1	5/19/2012	58	e21
3/23/2012	4			cablepair
3/23/2012	1	~5/24/2012	62	lightlord
3/23/2012	3	5/21/2012	59	wknight
3/23/2012	6	~5/21/2012	59	bo2573
3/23/2012	4	5/21/2012	59	BitMinerN8
3/26/2012	4	5/21/2012	56	yjacket
3/26/2012	4	~5/23/2012	58	yjacket
3/26/2012	6	~5/21/2012	56	camolist
3/26/2012	4			camolist
3/27/2012	10			mrb
3/30/2012	6	5/23/2012	54	JWU42
4/1/2012	1	~5/23/2012	53	hausmarke
4/3/2012	1	~5/23/2012	50	colinrgodsey
4/3/2012	2			Drome
4/7/2012	1			Maidek
4/7/2012	1			FalscherGold
4/12/2012	1			DeathAndTaxes	Bet Shipped date: 5/24/2012
4/12/2012	3			lightlord
4/13/2012	4			freshzive
4/14/2012	3			Jaryu
4/16/2012	20			Jaryu
4/17/2012	10			Beaflag VonRathburg
4/17/2012	1			Blaztoize
4/19/2012	3			kjilmu
4/20/2012	1			Enmaku
4/21/2012	5			rkozola
4/21/2012	1			nibor
4/22/2012	2			Drome
4/26/2012	10			kitich
4/27/2012	4			fefox
4/27/2012	9			TheLittleDuke
4/27/2012	8			chicken patty
4/29/2012	4			Paladin69
4/30/2012	2			aseldon
5/1/2012	10			nedbert9
5/3/2012	5			kibblesnbits
5/8/2012	2			Morblias
5/9/2012	2			wknight
5/13/2012	2			uck
5/14/2012	1			LazyOtto
5/15/2012	3			aseldon
5/16/2012	1			xtral
5/21/2012	5			kjlimo
5/22/2012	2			OgNasty

[lightlord]

I protest compensation!

[SaltySpitoon]

So you want $600, because they were 18 days late?

[DeathAndTaxes]

You should have checked what the guarantee was.  The guarantee is that if they fail to meet the delivery deadline you can cancel your pre-order without penalty.  An option you didn't take advatage of.  They didn't guarantee anything beyond that. 

Given 100% of pre-orders to date have failed to meet the guaranteed window the odds BFL gives you a free $600 device is between slim and none.  Sorry that is too optimistic.  It is between none and none.

Your request is like going into a ferrari dealership which says satisfaction guaranteed, saying your aren't satisfied and asking for the key to a free car as compensation.

[lightlord]

Well everyone on the list should be given a free BFL unit not just me.
-Well properly 3+ BFL unit orders should be given this deal.
And lesser then 3 BFL units should be deposited $100-$300 cash back.

Thats only 60 free BFL units, properly only costs $300 to make, an guess.
$300*60=$18,000.

But they have made much more then that. I am sure they can compensate.
Besides if they do compensate, a lot more customers will join them, yielding
more then $18,000 for them being nice to do so.

[rjk]

Well everyone on the list should be given a free BFL unit not just me.

Thats only 60 free BFL units, properly only costs $300 to make, an guess.
$300*60=$18,000.

But they have made much more then that. I am sure they can compensate.
Besides if they do compensate, a lot more customers will join them, yielding
more then $18,000 for them being nice to do so.

I've completely lost your train of thought. Let me know when you are sober again.

[lightlord]

-Well properly 3+ BFL unit orders should be given this deal.
And lesser then 3 BFL units should be deposited $100-$300 cash back.

A free BFL unit to everyone is a little over the top, but I added this above.

[SaltySpitoon]

No offense, but you are an idiot, you are pulling numbers out of your ass, and asking a company that I would guess is selling BFLs at almost cost (based on their price vs other fpgas that are selling at cost for $500 or so) to give out thousands of dollars they don't have because you were unhappy that you got something 18 days late.

[lightlord]

No offense, but you are an idiot, you are pulling numbers out of your ass, and asking a company that I would guess is selling BFLs at almost cost (based on their price vs other fpgas that are selling at cost for $500 or so) to give out thousands of dollars they don't have because you were unhappy that you got something 18 days late.

*because you were unhappy that you got something 18 days late.*

Its not me I am talking about, I am talking about everyone else that ordered from them
Perhaps a $25~$50 compensation pay back per BFL unit?

Just saying they should give something back.
I properly was over the top.

But I am just pointing things out that
there are a lot of unhappy people out there.

[SaltySpitoon]

I'm quite sure that anyone that has seen the wait list knows how long it is going to take. And if you are upset with the time it took, why would you buy more?

[rjk]

Its not me I am talking about, I am talking about everyone else.
Perhaps a $50 compensation pay back per BFL unit?

Just saying they should give something back.
I properly was over the top.

But I am just pointing things out that
there are a lot of unhappy people out there.

Listen, I am right at the top of the list, and do you hear me bitching? No. While we all agree that the marketing materials (website) could be adjusted to reflect something accurate, I'm not asking for a refund for fuck's sake. If you were around when they first showed up, you would have gotten in at the pre-order price of $499 anyway, like I did. You are late, so that is your loss.

You also had plenty of opportunity to read some of the dozens of threads here about them, and make an informed decision, but since you didn't bother I am going to call this bullshit right now.

[lightlord]

Its not me I am talking about, I am talking about everyone else that ordered from them
Perhaps a $25~$50 compensation pay back per BFL unit?

Again I am merely pointing this out from the customer perception, a company offers a offer, if it can't be meant
There should be compensation for the customers. Even if its little, there should be some.

I agree you were good to not bitch about it, but I am just comparing to real life companies,
If they can't meet there timeline, they should give their customers something in return.
For making it up.

Listen, I am right at the top of the list, and do you hear me bitching? No.

Its the company job to give the customer the compensation for its mistake, its not the customer job to ask for it.

[BinaryMage]

Its not me I am talking about, I am talking about everyone else that ordered from them
Perhaps a $25~$50 compensation pay back per BFL unit?

Again I am merely pointing this out from the customer perception, a company offers a offer, if it can't be meant
There should be compensation for the customers. Even if its little, there should be some.

I agree you were good to not bitch about it, but I am just comparing to real life companies,
If they can't meet there timeline, they should give their customers something in return.
For making it up.

Please, read the terms before you buy something. You chose not to take advantage of their guarantee, which was the ability to cancel your pre-order. Surely you're not arguing that BFL should force its customers to cancel their pre-orders after 42 days?

Its the company job to give the customer the compensation for its mistake, its not the customer job to ask for it.

So, if it isn't your job, why are you asking for it?

[lightlord]

Um If i just canceled it after 42 days, that is a lot of mining time loss...
I sold all my video cards to trade for BFL units.

If I just canceled I would lose a lot of mining time.

[BinaryMage]

Um If i just canceled it after 42 days, that is a lot of mining time loss...
I sold all my video cards to trade for BFL units.

If I just canceled I would lose a lot of mining time.

I'm not disagreeing with the loss, I'm just pointing out that BFL has honored all of their terms.

If you really want to push this, take it to them - the forums aren't going to be sympathetic, though I suppose you've probably figured that out already.

[LoupGaroux]

And BFL encouraged you to sell all your cards to buy their products? Did BFL warranty in their terms of the sale that they would provide compensation at insane levels to everyone who ordered from them for months and months because a single customer voiced his displeasure with a time frame getting pushed 50% over expectations?

It is not their responsibility to guess what will make one malcontent happy because he liquidated his operations to change mining methods. One can only guess how many more free units you will request when they don't come out of the box already mining at the pool of your choosing, and you actually have to configure them yourself. That's not right... they should have known that you wanted to mine at LMNOP Mining and they should have pre-configured for you.

[lightlord]

If you really want to push this, take it to them - the forums aren't going to be sympathetic, though I suppose you've probably figured that out already.

Yeah I can already see that.

Perhaps a $25~$50 compensation pay back per BFL unit?

provide compensation at insane levels

$25-$50 isn't insane levels  
I do agree the previous I said was, But I did self corrected it.
And said at least this amount.

[bitcoindaddy]

I would be happy if they threw in a Smartie into the box before the ship a BFL: