Marcchernandez scammed me for $500.00

[segvec]

What happened:: I was conned out of $500 by Marcchernandez. The individual confirmed that he would send bitcoin @ 1:1 if I gave him MP. I sent him the MP and he started making up excuses and eventually vanished.

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=361084

Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=842607.msg9399093#msg9399093
Amount Scammed: $500
Payment Method: Moneypak
Proof of Payment: Will send code via PM to confirm.
PM/Chat Logs: Will upload upon request.
Additional Notes: I was scammed $500 by this low-life addict.

I should have scrolled down and viewed the negative feedback in which he was left.
Perhaps if the negative trust from the previous victim showed up, this would have been avoided.

Thanks, have a nice day.

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[Argwai96]

Why would you not use escrow for such a large transaction? $500 works out to over 1.5 BTC and this is much too large to "trust" someone with.

[Magic8Ball]

I have an outstanding 0.4 BTC loan with Marcchernandez. I just took his account in my possession (he did not change his password from the last time he kept his account as collateral with me) https://bitcointalk.org/seclog.php

I think he just needs time to sort it out. I have asked secveg to provide me the chat logs. Since I think there is just a misunderstanding, I will not look into Marcchernandez's PMs for now.

[Magic8Ball]

How long back it was? An hour or two?

[Magic8Ball]

How long back it was? An hour or two?

Bitcointalk members,

I believe I just uncovered something.
Conducting my own due diligence now with an update soon...

A ring of fraud if I may suggest.
Will report back soon.

Can you elaborate?

I would still give him the benefit of doubt. If you have a cell number call him up and see what happens.

[Argwai96]

Why would you not use escrow for such a large transaction? $500 works out to over 1.5 BTC and this is much too large to "trust" someone with.

Small figure...was not concerned about such a minuscule amount.

I would not consider $500 to be a small figure by any measure. I would say that $500 is at least 10 times as much as what you would need to use escrow as many people will scam from one 10th of the amount you were trading for. Some people in the lending section will try to scam for even .001 BTC

Unless you have traded with this person before multiple times, there is no reason why you should have not used escrow. It does not cost anything to use escrow and many people offer their services for free

[KWH]

Why would you not use escrow for such a large transaction? $500 works out to over 1.5 BTC and this is much too large to "trust" someone with.

Small figure...was not concerned about such a minuscule amount.

LOGS -

[5:16:57 PM] Marcchernandez: What's up
[5:16:59 PM] Albert Gonzalez: ill tell u when to go
[5:17:04 PM] Albert Gonzalez: ready here in a minute i think
[5:17:09 PM] Albert Gonzalez: partner said home, signed into messenger
[5:17:11 PM] Albert Gonzalez: then logged
[5:17:13 PM] Albert Gonzalez: waiting for him to relog in
[5:17:19 PM] Albert Gonzalez: then u can go on lunch and we can complete this
[5:18:51 PM] Marcchernandez: Ok
[5:19:00 PM] Marcchernandez: How many moneypaks total
[5:19:09 PM] Albert Gonzalez: they will be 500~ codes
[5:21:34 PM] Marcchernandez: Ok
[5:21:41 PM] Albert Gonzalez: so you hav
[5:21:43 PM] Albert Gonzalez: 2000~ in btc now
[5:21:45 PM] Albert Gonzalez: in hot wallet?
[5:21:48 PM] Albert Gonzalez: 2k flat worth
[5:25:04 PM] Albert Gonzalez: go on lunch
[5:25:04 PM] Albert Gonzalez: lets go
[5:28:13 PM] Albert Gonzalez: Whenever you are ready, go on lunch...got your codes lock and loaded marcc.
[5:30:40 PM] Marcchernandez: Yeah. I have 11btc in my hot wallet right now
[5:32:19 PM] Marcchernandez: So 2k is around 6.2?
[5:32:28 PM] Albert Gonzalez: yeah
[5:32:31 PM] Albert Gonzalez: we will do 500 increments
[5:32:36 PM] Albert Gonzalez: ill buy your full hot wallet
[5:33:39 PM] Albert Gonzalez: ok 500 worth of bitcoin
[5:33:41 PM] Albert Gonzalez: pm me
[5:33:42 PM] Albert Gonzalez: can u?
[5:33:50 PM] Marcchernandez: Seriously? Ill only sell
[5:33:52 PM] Albert Gonzalez: say doing $500 trade (my btc for your mp) now
[5:33:55 PM] Marcchernandez: You 7max lol
[5:34:00 PM] Albert Gonzalez: ok, ill take the 7 then
[5:34:02 PM] Albert Gonzalez: pm me
[5:34:12 PM] Marcchernandez: Pref with receipts
[5:34:12 PM] Albert Gonzalez: Doing $500 trade with you now (my btc for your mp)
[5:34:17 PM] Albert Gonzalez: no receipt on this batch
[5:34:22 PM] Albert Gonzalez: if u want to do receipt, got to wait
[5:34:25 PM] Albert Gonzalez: but i need at least 2k now
[5:34:30 PM] Albert Gonzalez: then the rest of the coin after
[5:34:31 PM] Marcchernandez: Ah okay, hold on
[5:34:33 PM] Albert Gonzalez: kk pm me
[5:37:10 PM] Albert Gonzalez: sooner the better, my partner is in rush; sorry for rush on you
[5:37:48 PM] Marcchernandez: Hold on. Give me 5 min
[5:37:50 PM] Albert Gonzalez: kk sure
[5:45:08 PM] Albert Gonzalez: ?
[5:47:07 PM] Albert Gonzalez: there?
[5:48:29 PM] Albert Gonzalez: marcc
[5:48:45 PM] Marcchernandez: Okay
[5:48:49 PM] Marcchernandez: Sorry
[5:48:51 PM] Albert Gonzalez: its ok
[5:48:54 PM] Albert Gonzalez: ready?
[5:49:13 PM] Albert Gonzalez: i have vanilla for u
[5:49:14 PM] Albert Gonzalez: per ur request
[5:50:17 PM] Albert Gonzalez: i guess msg me when ur here, dunno where u keep going
[5:52:09 PM] Marcchernandez: Okay I'm locking my office door
[5:52:15 PM] Marcchernandez: So no one can bug me lol
[5:52:32 PM] Albert Gonzalez: lool okay
[5:52:34 PM] Albert Gonzalez: sure thing
[5:52:34 PM] Marcchernandez: I can just take the mp bro
[5:52:40 PM] Albert Gonzalez: can u not do the vanilla?
[5:52:42 PM] Albert Gonzalez: if not, i got mp too
[5:52:45 PM] Albert Gonzalez: but would prefer vanilla
[5:52:45 PM] Albert Gonzalez: up 2 u
[5:52:57 PM] Albert Gonzalez: ur call
[5:52:57 PM] Marcchernandez: Wait so you want vanilla?
[5:53:02 PM] Albert Gonzalez: i can give you vanilla
[5:53:04 PM] Albert Gonzalez: or moneypak
[5:53:08 PM] Albert Gonzalez: i prefer to give u vanilla
[5:53:12 PM] Albert Gonzalez: which do you want
[5:53:12 PM] Albert Gonzalez: lol
[5:53:17 PM] Albert Gonzalez: i want your BTC
[5:53:24 PM] Albert Gonzalez: You inject some morphine or something?
[5:53:27 PM] Albert Gonzalez: Only kidding, lol
[5:54:54 PM] Marcchernandez: What?
[5:54:56 PM] Marcchernandez: 697 said
[5:55:08 PM] Albert Gonzalez: 697?
[5:55:08 PM] Marcchernandez: You said you prefer mp lol
[5:55:20 PM] Albert Gonzalez: i got a batch of 10k vanilla
[5:55:22 PM] Albert Gonzalez: so want to offload some
[5:55:24 PM] Albert Gonzalez: but whatever you want
[5:55:27 PM] Albert Gonzalez: do you want vanilla or mp?
[5:55:39 PM] Marcchernandez: I'll just take MP lol
[5:55:42 PM] Albert Gonzalez: ok sure
[5:55:47 PM] Albert Gonzalez: how fast will this be?
[5:55:51 PM] Albert Gonzalez: ur response seems to be slow lol
[5:56:31 PM] Marcchernandez: Now it will be wuick
[5:56:36 PM] Albert Gonzalez: ok ready for 500$ code?
[5:56:39 PM] Marcchernandez: I told everyone not to but me lol
[5:56:43 PM] Marcchernandez: Bug*
[5:56:54 PM] Albert Gonzalez: ready for first code? $500
[5:57:32 PM] Marcchernandez: Yeag
[5:57:36 PM] Albert Gonzalez: XXX XXX XXXX XXXX <---- code given
[5:57:37 PM] Albert Gonzalez: $500
[6:00:14 PM] Albert Gonzalez: 1.5464 owed to me
[6:00:16 PM] Albert Gonzalez: tell me when redeemed
[6:01:21 PM] Marcchernandez: Okay
[6:01:29 PM] Albert Gonzalez: redeemed?
[6:03:22 PM] Albert Gonzalez: marcc, need to speed process
[6:05:04 PM] Albert Gonzalez: need a response, partner is on stand-by waiting
[6:05:23 PM] Marcchernandez: Redeemed
[6:05:28 PM] Albert Gonzalez: kk
[6:05:36 PM] Albert Gonzalez: 1.299 to ---> (wallet address)
0.2474 to ---> xxx (wallet address)
[6:05:41 PM] Albert Gonzalez: make sure u double check addresses
[6:05:46 PM] Marcchernandez: Okay
[6:08:44 PM] Albert Gonzalez: sent?
[6:09:20 PM] Marcchernandez: Let's do 2 at a time
[6:09:22 PM] Marcchernandez: So it's quicker
[6:09:28 PM] Albert Gonzalez: ok send this 1
[6:09:30 PM] Albert Gonzalez: then will send 2 more
[6:09:59 PM] Albert Gonzalez: when i send next 2, be quicker
[6:10:02 PM] Albert Gonzalez: sent??
[6:11:03 PM] Albert Gonzalez: marcc, why is the responses so slow?
[6:12:05 PM] Marcchernandez: Because these guys keep knocking I'm so sorry man
[6:12:14 PM] Albert Gonzalez: is btc sent???
[6:12:25 PM] Marcchernandez: Yeh
[6:12:39 PM] Albert Gonzalez: its not
[6:12:39 PM] Albert Gonzalez: lol
[6:12:46 PM] Albert Gonzalez: did u really just scam for 500$?
[6:13:21 PM] Albert Gonzalez: Wow, didn't know people scam still for pennies
[6:14:05 PM] Albert Gonzalez: nothing to say?
[6:15:12 PM] Albert Gonzalez: hello???
[6:15:58 PM] Albert Gonzalez: you account was really worth only 500 to scam?
[6:15:58 PM] Albert Gonzalez: lol
[6:16:02 PM] Albert Gonzalez: leaving negative feedback now
[6:16:19 PM] Marcchernandez: Oh shit
[6:16:22 PM] Marcchernandez: Sorry msn
[6:16:26 PM] Marcchernandez: Man hold on
[6:16:44 PM] Albert Gonzalez: what the hell is going on?
[6:18:21 PM] Albert Gonzalez: marcc, im leaving negative feedback in 10 mins if no btc is sent
[6:23:34 PM] Albert Gonzalez: lol wow
[6:23:35 PM] Albert Gonzalez: for 500
[6:25:09 PM] Albert Gonzalez: ur negative feedback has been left
[6:25:14 PM] Albert Gonzalez: enjoy hope it was worth it

This can easily be faked or altered and I don't even read them anymore. I don't doubt what you are claiming but these aren't proof.

[alabamafan1]

I have an outstanding 0.4 BTC loan with Marcchernandez. I just took his account in my possession (he did not change his password from the last time he kept his account as collateral with me) https://bitcointalk.org/seclog.php

I think he just needs time to sort it out. I have asked secveg to provide me the chat logs. Since I think there is just a misunderstanding, I will not look into Marcchernandez's PMs for now.

He sold off the account cause hes a serial scammer. It was obvious for this guy. He did 3 or so trades them claimed he was trustworthy enough to be sent first to, and after that he waited for a big enough sale that he could quickly make.

[alabamafan1]

He is about to fix this I think, so hopefully this story has a happy ending. He'll post here soon. I've done a lot of business with him so I'm glad to see him staying legit.

Anyone who does a man in the middle attack is not someone who can be trusted. Post his info, guaranteed he has scammed under a different screenname. You must be the first to have his real info which is why hes scared now and might pay those he faulted back this time...

[haploid23]

I have dealt with Marc on several occasions. Any reload cards that I trade with him, I load them directly to his card so no chance of him passing it on. He trust me enough to give me his debit card number for the loading.

I'll help you sort this out. I have his personal number, will contact him tomorrow if this hasn't been sorted out by then. But I will not be releasing any info about him unless proven a scammer.

[alabamafan1]

Either way, even if he sorts it out, he needs a red trust. He scammed someone and regardless of whether he makes good, his intention was to scam and that show a lot about his character.

[xetsr]

Why do you think his localbitcoin profile was deleted?

https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/Marcchernandez/feedback/ - You can delete your account but feedback is still there. Notice "- $400 USD chargeback in Paypal".

He also had at least one other account when he first joined under this username. I mentioned it but nobody really cared. EDIT: Found old thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=719410.msg8128401

It's common for scammers to trade with trusted people and use escrow or they (the scammers) send first. Somehow this makes them "trusted" and then want others to send to them first. This is why you have to pay close attention to feedback and not consider anyone trusted because they've done a bunch of deals but never sent first.

[gameristo]

Hi

I just seen this thread

I was also sent this guy small amount 50 paypal to test them as below

i have about 1.5btc available, you can send me any amount as long as it is equivalent to 1.5btc or less

my paypal ID is tyteimpnoy@hotmail.com

let me know your btc address

Hello Friend
I just able to transfer 50 USD

Transaction ID: 1KW60290VR2370258
You sent a payment for $50,00 USD to: MarcHenry Hernandez.

after first trade completed we will trade lot of funds soon

you can take you 10% fees as your profit and remaining amount pay back according to current price of BTC at the moment

waiting for you
thanks

and after it I contacted them many times but they just excuses and said will send btc soon in some days

and still nothing

this guy paypal id tyteimpnoy@hotmail.com like 8 years old paypal account so why I am going to trust them and was offered them send up to 1000 USD paypal monthly same as I always traded with other trusted exchangers
but this guy just took small 50 and still no single word from him

even I was ready send them more 450 USD paypal yesterday if they paid back me 50 pp of btc after 1 month but still no any word from him

anyways I again send them message on forum and sent email too if they can reply

thanks

[xetsr]

https://localbitcoins.com/forums/#!/fraud#scammer-forallofthis-aka

No question about it, this guy is a scammer!

If you have his info, you should release it now before others get scammed. This is not a misunderstanding.. there are several complaints against him from several different people.

[ghibly79]

Got a Skrill chargeback from this guy for around 430 $. He said he'll refund me 2 days ago but I doubt at this point. Will remove the comment if things get settled somehow.

[xetsr]

I think he's gone full blown scammer. He is a pathological liar.

He claims he will refund me tomorrow.
Lets see what happens.

Doubt it, unless he plans on paying everyone back including the ones he owes after his chargebacks. Why pay one or two people when he can just run?

I'm sure more people will be posting soon after they find out he chargebacked paypal and skrill.

[xetsr]

I think he's gone full blown scammer. He is a pathological liar.

He claims he will refund me tomorrow.
Lets see what happens.

Doubt it, unless he plans on paying everyone back including the ones he owes after his chargebacks. Why pay one or two people when he can just run?

I'm sure more people will be posting soon after they find out he chargebacked paypal and skrill.

I guess we will see.
Makes no sense for him to scam me considering I have a full dox on him.

Will be in the LA area in about 2-3 weeks so am able to confront him w/ ease.

Someone else already posted his info. Could be fake?

[Tomatocage]

He lied to me about sending the money back to segvec last night. Thanks for making me eat my words, now we get to do this the hard way!

MarcHenry Cabling Hernandez, California (likely Los Angeles), born January 17 1988. Phone # 626-823-4440

I'll take this info down if money is returned.

Cabling is his mother's (Marites Cabling) maiden name. Here's his Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/marcchernandez

Looks like he has a baby girl. Damn, this a tough call. I'm not condoning his scams, but some people gotta do what they gotta do to put food on the table.

[Tomatocage]

Fuck that guy then. Dump all you have on him.

[Nextgen]

thats why its always recommanded to use trusted escrow when dealing with someone
also there are alert threads on this forum to warn users