Shadow/cash/coin called on trolling Blocknet (it's why) on Oct 21st. 100%

[Black Fire]

The SDC dev is cool it's the 3-4 big bag holders that throw their weight around and force things and started this smear campaign. Those guys are responsible for 90% of the trolling and shit that comes from SDC. If it wasn't for their BS tactics I'd still be a big supporter of the coin and it's dev. They really should focus their attention and efforts on making SDC a great coin and not pissing off everyone else.

[adhitthana]

Some of us here are not kids and we remember all the scams through history ...

[TrangLee]

You know what, I'm to the point I won't touch coins this group is involved in, OR the other 'groups' that they fight with.  Mind you that prob doesn't leave many coins out there to 'invest' in lol

I won't touch SDC. They attack anything that they think may threaten them. That doesn't mean their target is bad. I'd more likely buy their target then SDC.

Well indeed that is what they do. They are now after a new coin called Zerovert https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=846471.0 . Why what did poor Zerovert do to get such attention? They have the worlds very 1st ZK-SNARKS implementation. What is that? It's basically Zerocoin/cash. A holy grail of anonymity. The"zk-snarks" are zero knowledge proofs. A very complex math equation that allows transaction while being untraceable. Thats super simple but long story short it was gonna be SDC's premier claim to fame after their dismal fail of coming in #2 to LibrexCoin with worlds 1st pos coin staking Android wallet. 

Karma is such a bitch after their smear campaign against Blocknet. You reap what you sew.   

[00Smurf]

You know what, I'm to the point I won't touch coins this group is involved in, OR the other 'groups' that they fight with.  Mind you that prob doesn't leave many coins out there to 'invest' in lol

I won't touch SDC. They attack anything that they think may threaten them. That doesn't mean their target is bad. I'd more likely buy their target then SDC.

Well indeed that is what they do. They are now after a new coin called Zerovert https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=846471.0 . Why what did poor Zerovert do to get such attention? They have the worlds very 1st ZK-SNARKS implementation. What is that? It's basically Zerocoin/cash. A holy grail of anonymity. The"zk-snarks" are zero knowledge proofs. A very complex math equation that allows transaction while being untraceable. Thats super simple but long story short it was gonna be SDC's premier claim to fame after their dismal fail of coming in #2 to LibrexCoin with worlds 1st pos coin staking Android wallet.  

Karma is such a bitch after their smear campaign against Blocknet. You reap what you sew.  

Are you calling all the other people asking the same kinds of questions trolls?

They made an announcement, and if you read the fucking thread you would see its more than just "sdc" trolls as you put it asking questions.

This is from the Vert irc

[20:13] <jwinterm> supposed new project from vertcoin lead dev: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=846471.new#new
[20:14] <jwinterm> nopo The_Hox, think it's still closed source
[20:15] <The_Hox> yeah the new project looks good but im afraid it will be closed source too
[20:17] <jwinterm> seems that way, it's not even clear poramin is working on it at this point, just a newbie account posting and brand new reddit account
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[20:26] <WRA|00Smurf> why make a new account for it?
[20:26] <WRA|00Smurf> plus they keep delete ing questionms
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[21:08] <jwinterm> I dunno WRA|00Smurf, would be nice to get some confirmation from dev account on reddit or btctalk
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[22:17] <VertTipBot> 24 hours till winner is chosen. Current Pot: 5.5VTC
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[22:52] <The_Hox> Has anyone spoken to any devs about zerovert?
[22:52] <The_Hox> seems to have come out of no where and smells a bit fishy
[22:55] <jwinterm> I agree The_Hox
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[22:59] <jwinterm> just changed my post on reddit, asking for clarification
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[23:09] <The_Hox> I have PM'd a couple of the devs about it, we'll see what they say
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Oh is that other people in the Zerovert thread asking questions?

[Don Flamenco]

Wow that really is eye opening? Those guys pretty much didnt want their dev to merge the the coin as it would cut their total coin amounts and that would kill their influence over it. Thats pretty greedy and self centered. These guys claiming to be "Angel investors" really have everyone else's intrests at heart right? lol They have their wallet's interest at heart.

Fuck SDC.  Those three are so toxic.

[G-Bert]

Wow that really is eye opening? Those guys pretty much didnt want their dev to merge the the coin as it would cut their total coin amounts and that would kill their influence over it. Thats pretty greedy and self centered. These guys claiming to be "Angel investors" really have everyone else's intrests at heart right? lol They have their wallet's interest at heart.

Fuck SDC.  Those three are so toxic.

IMO, there shouldn't be a hate campaign against SDC.

Rynomster seems like a decent guy to me.

I found this post yesterday, and posted in the blocknet thread.

I don't really have a problem with whales, but I definitely think that they shouldn't be able to dictate the priority of development, the development requirements or the future of the coin..

The first few months of shadow I was completely oblivious to the fact that whales.. The more things progressed, the more people were offering funds to hire extra developers, managers, technical writers, journalists, etc.

The team has obviously grown, and it took me a while to realise I'm no longer able to make decisions on my own, but it seems to be moving forward. I really don't like the delayed open source thing, but I guess you need to protect investments for a bit.

The whales also tend to know allot about other whales, and obviously they've been in the game allot longer than late adopters, so they have very valuable input most of the time.

I would definitely enjoy developing allot more if there wasn't a direct monetary value, and if people didn't care about the price.

Some day people will realise that this is all epic research and experimentation, and that the monetary value is actually curbing the innovation, because they constantly asking are we there yet, and if you miss a deadline or there's a bug or a hack that the developers weren't in control of, the whales can put a massive dent in an entire communities investment.

If you read the original chatlog, then think about the massive fudfest that happened, then read this... well, make your own minds up

(p.s. i'm invested in both coins, its a shame sdc didn't end up being part of blocknet, could have been a good thing imo, hopefully those fuckers dump and move on, and ryno can be able to make his own decision)

edit - the most important part of rynos post i think should be highlighted...

Some day people will realise that this is all epic research and experimentation, and that the monetary value is actually curbing the innovation, because they constantly asking are we there yet, and if you miss a deadline or there's a bug or a hack that the developers weren't in control of, the whales can put a massive dent in an entire communities investment.

[Polycoin]

damn this scam