[BTC] $1,183.20 Amazon Balance [BTC] [MINERS CAN BUY EQP!]

[Maged]

Blazr, thank you for posting the risks in a non-accusatory manner. That's more of what I want to see.

You should have asked him if he was willing to take escrow.
If he's not willing to take escrow, THEN you can pull out your pitchforks.

liberty payout, will you do escrow?

I think it's a little late for that. I doubt he will even want to do business with you now.

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[BTC guy]

im asking so we all know if he will do escrow or not. you said to ask him right? just trying to be direct.

[Liberty Payout]

I was fine using escrow I was fine going first to Chaang and other members of his type. The next issue was fraud and that sent them gallivanting.

[Maged]

im asking so we all know if he will do escrow or not. you said to ask him right? just trying to be direct.

Oh, good. I thought you suddenly were asking him to do business with you again.

[Liberty Payout]

Long time trusted members have turned into scammers and run off with large amounts of money. Assuming you are not a scammer, you should be aware of this. TRUST NO ONE!

The forum is reacting correctly IMO. We watch out for each other. I personally have been scammed on this forum. It happens :/

You can't use other people's actions to judge others, that's prejudice. I don't know about you but I am opposed. If that were the case I could go around assuming all of you "trusted" people were scammers but I don't because that's not the way I operate. I know trusted people are capable of scamming I've seen it happen time and time again, I've had it happen to me. If there is anyone that should be cautious it's me. Being a noob makes me a primary target for illegitimate offers and scams. I came in here with an open mind and attitude but so far what I am encountering is not something I like. Everyone has been scammed one way or the other but to write everyone off is simply ridiculous and you will never be able to capitalize that way, there is risk involved in every venture. I learned that a while ago that's why I had no problem going first to you. If I lose out I move on with new knowledge of what to avoid next time, experience gained. You're also not "watching out" it seems like more of a hazing ritual. "New guy let's make him jump through hoops". There needs to be a limit.

[BTC guy]

i have 2 questions. why did you say im not trusted to you? why not ship sadpandatech his game? its low cost, he has high posts, and rep. seems like a good way to get started to me.

[likuidxd]

i have 2 questions. why did you say im not trusted to you? why not ship sadpandatech his game? its low cost, he has high posts, and rep. seems like a good way to get started to me.

Probably because of a sudden flood of people with pitch forks.

BTC Guy if you have no business with the user, please go about your own business. If he is a scammer 6 pages of post should be adequate to warn anyone skeptical away from this transaction.

[BTC guy]

go tell somebody else what to do. i dont hear you. i know i was trolling a little but im not the only one posting. i asked valid questions.

[Liberty Payout]

go tell somebody else what to do. i dont hear you. i know i was trolling a little but im not the only one posting. i asked valid questions.

I'm positive you are a child. This is why I did not want to go first to you. You type like someone who hasn't graduated from middle school and you're rude. To add to it you are using the "other people were talking too" excuse?

[BTC guy]

LOL, i was not rude to you dude. all i asked is if you would go first. you didnt ask me for rep or anything. you just insulted me publicly for no good reason other than my improper grammar.

[likuidxd]

He actually said no to you respectfully in public and in turn you indirectly called him a scammer...

Anyways, if the deal I entered into with Liberty Payout is a valid deal; The advertised amazon balance is spoken for pending a 24-48 hour waiting period. If you agree to this publically, I also request that you send first and I will pay when I receive my goods

[Liberty Payout]

He actually said no to you respectfully in public and in turn you indirectly called him a scammer...

Anyways, if the deal I entered into with Liberty Payout is a valid deal; The advertised amazon balance is spoken for pending a 24-48 hour waiting period. If you agree to this publically, I also request that you send first and I will pay when I receive my goods

I'm willing to use an OMM, but I won't be sending first unless you are staff.

[BTC guy]

He actually said no to you respectfully in public and in turn you indirectly called him a scammer...

i disagree. i thought telling me im not trusted without due process was insulting. he isnt gonna make friends talking down to people. i may use lazy english but i do good business and i have always delivered. i didnt accuse him of being a scammer simply because he shot me down. i asked him if he was newdude cause thats who i honestly thought it was. newdude didnt like me either and since this is a nub who i never talked to before i thought his distaste for me was because i was vocal in his last thread.

i will say no more. good luck.

[rjk]

What is an OMM? Escrow was offered by a staff member.

[Liberty Payout]

He actually said no to you respectfully in public and in turn you indirectly called him a scammer...

i disagree. i thought telling me im not trusted without due process was insulting. he isnt gonna make friends talking down to people with more rep than him. i may use lazy english but i do good business and i have always delivered. i didnt accuse him of being a scammer simply because he shot me down. i asked him if he was newdude cause thats who i honestly thought it was. newdude didnt like me either and since this is a nub who i never talked to before i thought his distaste for me was because i was vocal in his last thread.

i will say no more. good luck.

I don't have distaste for you, or I didn't. I said I didn't find you trusted enough to go first. Simple.

[Liberty Payout]

What is an OMM? Escrow was offered by a staff member.

OMM is an official middle man.

[Liberty Payout]

Full disclosure to everyone:  I was about a mouse click a way from executing a deal and the very thing that Blazr mentioned about having LE show up at my door asking how/where/why I had merchandise that was purchased using stolen funds popped in my head.  Liberty did post what looked like to be several pages of an Amazon account's gift card history.  I've done many purchases of Amazon gift card in these forums and through irc.  Some of those transactions I now regret, because in hindsight I took an enormous amount of risk.

So here's what I'm willing to do.  If Liberty still has my wishlist link, I'm willing to do a purchase of two sticks of ram and a system board and processor.  It comes pretty close to $200 or so.  We can set the btc rate and I'll forward them to nanotube in #bitcoin-escrow who can hold the coins until the merchandise shows up and then nanotube will send to Liberty.  I don't think anyone could/would say anything bad about nanotube as he's very polite, responsible, and most importantly, trustworthy.  

Liberty, what do you say?  I'm posting this publicly vs a pm as a display for everyone else.  Obviously scams could come later, but at least they know this transaction between you and I is legit.

I'm selling to: likuidxd, because he was the only one willing to hear me out when you were all pointing fingers. Apart from that, I've long since pulled this from the market.

[Maged]

He actually said no to you respectfully in public and in turn you indirectly called him a scammer...

Anyways, if the deal I entered into with Liberty Payout is a valid deal; The advertised amazon balance is spoken for pending a 24-48 hour waiting period. If you agree to this publically, I also request that you send first and I will pay when I receive my goods

I'm willing to use an OMM, but I won't be sending first unless you are staff.

My escrow offer that I offered earlier is still available. I don't charge a fee, and I'm online pretty often.

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[Liberty Payout]

He actually said no to you respectfully in public and in turn you indirectly called him a scammer...

Anyways, if the deal I entered into with Liberty Payout is a valid deal; The advertised amazon balance is spoken for pending a 24-48 hour waiting period. If you agree to this publically, I also request that you send first and I will pay when I receive my goods

I'm willing to use an OMM, but I won't be sending first unless you are staff.

My escrow offer that I offered earlier is still available. I don't charge a fee, and I'm online pretty often.

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I agree to this OMM, when likuidxd gets on we can work out the specifics. Thanks for the offer, mate.

[Maged]

Great! I've backed-up the address and subscribed to this thread. I highly doubt that there will be any problems, but if there are, I'll resolve them as fairly as I always have.