155% return on investment, Pool (0/5)

[Thekool1s]

neh, I dont invest in ponzi schemes.

Please prove its a ponzi , I am tired of explaining now lets see the other part of proving it ponzi
Ponzi don't last for 2 plus years!. Ponzi admins or owners are not public. They don't communicate in forums themself. The list will go on and on. Please prove to me its a ponzi my maths says its pretty much possible. Now i would like to see other math which proves me wrong

Edit: Read the 4 pages i have given information how they earn.

[Bitsky]

Ponzi don't last for 2 plus years!

paidverts.com creation date: 2013-05-30T17:17:12Z (I know I'm splitting hairs here)

Ponzi admins or owners are not public. They don't communicate in forums themself.

Trendon sure was and sure did.

if you dont invest then you get dust ads. But if you invest the case is different

That's my point. Their FAQ says "No deposit is required to earn money with PaidVerts", but we're talking about fractions of cents there. But if you give them money, you suddenly get better paying ads. Advertisers won't pay enough to cover those 55% extra return so the money has to come from somewhere else; and unless they have money to burn the source is pretty obvious.

I mean, with ads paying this much I might as well quit my job and only do 10 clicks a day:

[Thekool1s]

Well that requires hardwork. I am earning 2$ daily because i did hardwork. No one gives away easy money. Paidverts is owned by mytrafficvalue that is 2 years old. They develop products and give returns. The Advertiser dont pay you got to be kidding me! Why will advertisers not pay? World population is above 7 Billion.

example.
I invest 20$ and i want my return back while another person invest and doesnt wants his return back. Or Gambles at there casinos. The extra 55% comes very possible. See there system you will see they have many ways to earn.

[Bitsky]

The Advertiser dont pay you got to be kidding me! Why will advertisers not pay?

From their site: Bulk Ads for $1.00: 50 user visits for 30 seconds each. Plus 125 banner.
Leaving out the banners, that means they get paid $0.02 per impression delivered. Users even get the same page several times in a row, nothing a professinal advertiser would accept.
You invest $20. At 155% you expect $31 back. Your screenshot shows that ads pay up to $4 for you. I see a little difference between that and the $0.02

I invest 20$ and i want my return back while another person invest and doesnt wants his return back.

Why would another person invest without wanting money back?
Why don't you invest 1BTC in my sig address without wanting it back?

Or Gambles at there casinos.

If your business strategy is based on gambling, you are doing it very, very wrong.

[Thekool1s]

First of all i dont gamble at all with funds thats where i gain! LOL you actually think many advertising companies want there money back ? You invest 1 BTC but it takes you unknown number of days to get your return back plus you don't have to miss the ads. Thats where they gain. When users lose there ads. No one has the time to watch 200-300 ads. There system works differently, low budget ads go to people who have low BAP and High budget ad goto people who have high BAP,  http://prntscr.com/56z8ch

+ they gets fund from mytrafficvalue too. So there is always a stream of income http://prntscr.com/56z991 Gambling, advertising , Shares, New investments for new products, betting on polls etc. If you view the whole system which is mytrafficvalue and paidverts together you will see how they work.

[Thekool1s]

Update:
The payment has been cleared as expected, The pool will continue. there are only 4 more spots if you want you can jump in. Min investment is 5$ and max is 20$

payment sent: https://blockchain.info/tx/63394d27ab30912cd8b02b3edc4750db47285bff018152ec45a2aafab2a1be72

[kirdney]

I invested 20$ on 7th Nov, yesterday (14 days later) i received 27$ back

So i can say OP is trustworthy + he is a very nice and friendly fella, always responding quite fast via skype if i had any questions. He also send me screenshots with the current process of his paidverts account every 3-4 days.

I think he is also doing a great job explaining how the system works in this thread. If you ask me he deserves to put an affiliate link on first page, otherwise when you register an account you will be automatically assigned to webmaster of paidverts (Jo).

So far my personal experiences with paidverts:
- they definitely pay out (even though bitcoin cashout might take up to 8 days atm + you have to pay 5 % fee)
- based on last weeks ad payouts i calculated that you will reach ROI with an investment of about 15 $ in around 5 weeks, after that you will make 3 $ profit a week or you keep on reinvesting to reach higher payout structure (by the way you will ROI more slowly with higher initial investment)
- its necessary that you visit the page once or twice daily to click all the ads otherwise ROI will be delayed

So at the end everyone has to decide for himself if his time is worth it to be part of this game or not. You won´t get rich, but you can surely make some pocket money if you have spare time left and no problems with watching advertisement-websites every day.

[crazy-pilot]

I invested 20$ on 7th Nov, yesterday (14 days later) i received 27$ back

So i can say OP is trustworthy + he is a very nice and friendly fella, always responding quite fast via skype if i had any questions. He also send me screenshots with the current process of his paidverts account every 3-4 days.

Many bitcon ponzi schemes will payout at first in order to build confidence of investors. They will generally use funds from later investors to pay earlier investors and are not paying out any actual earnings.   

So far my personal experiences with paidverts:
- they definitely pay out (even though bitcoin cashout might take up to 8 days atm + you have to pay 5 % fee)

It taking 8 days to receive a payout then there is another indicator that it is a ponzi as he is likely waiting for more "investors" to put money in his ponzi so he can payout

[Thekool1s]

You call it a ponzi what ever but it is not a ponzi. I would suggest you to visit the both sites yourself and read on forums how exactly they work. They share the advertising revenues you can call them whatever but the model is sustainable and works if you do the math right In ponzi there is a timeframe limit but here there is no timeframe it can take you years to get your return or few days.

And btw i don't own much btc you can see from where the btc came from. The funds goto paidverts as soon as they hit my address.

Edit: If i was running this ponzi first of all i would never have placed the 20$ maximum limit, 2nd There would have been unlimited spots you clearly dont understand what paidverts is or how it works. I guess you have never seen a ptc site do some research and then call out for scam

[Thekool1s]

OK we see you deposited $20 but what about the withdraw? I think most ppl here are more interested in that part Smiley.

http://prntscr.com/59716s

my btc address: https://blockchain.info/address/1A9H6pMR1V1ZagYvDKDCpSBueRaNvP6BHv

[Bitsky]

You call it a ponzi what ever but it is not a ponzi. I would suggest you to visit the both sites yourself and read on forums how exactly they work. They share the advertising revenues you can call them whatever but the model is sustainable and works if you do the math right In ponzi there is a timeframe limit but here there is no timeframe it can take you years to get your return or few days.

My point is that they are only interested in investors and make it exceptionally hard for "freebie" users to earn anything at all. They could let you build up your earnings from zero, but instead they do everything to add roadblocks and make you invest money. Why? Because they need those investments.

Edit: If i was running this ponzi first of all i would never have placed the 20$ maximum limit, 2nd There would have been unlimited spots you clearly dont understand what paidverts is or how it works. I guess you have never seen a ptc site do some research and then call out for scam

It actually makes sense to have limits. If an investor would suddenly put 1000BTC into the system, the operator would have to return 1550BTC within a month. If there aren't enough "low" investments, paying 550BTC in a month would be impossible and the ponzi would collapse.

[Thekool1s]

See if the investor did put 1000 BTC he would probably get his return back in 1+Year because the ads issued by the system depends on their sale and usually its around 20K$ mark every day. What makes this model successful is that there is no time limit it can take you years to get your return or few days. It all depends upon there sales. and you got it wrong again, The system doesn't guarantees a time frame!

Well the money doesn't grows on tree so they can't also give away free money too . I started from zero now i am making 3$-4$ per day. And it is increasing day by day more faster. Its upto me now how i want to continue as a free user. You need to do hardwork to get money.


Edit: And on investment limit here is an answer to your 1000 BTC thing. 1000 BTC would mean 360,200$ for every 1$ you get 50 views to your website. 50*360,200=18010000 views. The ads i bought for my 1st investor for 20$ which was 1000 views only are still in progress and are not half way there yet. 15+ Days and still 458 views. Now 18010000 views would take like 2 years just to deliver which is not good because you may want to advertise another site in the mean time. So the limit on investment thing also explains why there is a limit because the system can't deliver above a certain rate.

[elephantas1]

Wait is this ponzi scheme still works?

[Thekool1s]

This is not a ponzi please! i have explained it thousand times already!

Update: Kirdney invested 20$ again.
https://blockchain.info/tx/1fbaaf065fcb5d935fe4a757668f1e6c2e8285068b3b14abc716e234910fb583

Return expected in 10-12 days.

[Bitsky]

It won't work out in the long run. You invest and get advertising, plus a 155% return. Those 55% come from the next investors, who get their 55% from the next. That's a ponzi bubble.
If they were serious they wouldn't roadblock freebie users; but they want them to invest to keep it going.
Anyway, whatever.

[Thekool1s]

You can say that, But not every one has time to watch all the ads and get that 155% back and many people just come to advertise . And paidverts gain 100% from there and not taking in the account the casino's and lotteries. The Extra 55% in 1 months+ timeframe is pretty possible.

And you are forgetting 1 thing Hardwork is key to success, No one gives free money. I started from zero but my experience so far is good Received payment and i have alot more trust in the system.

[Bitsky]

not taking in the account the casino's and lotteries.

Using gambling as a part of your business strategy is.... risky to put it mildly.

And you are forgetting 1 thing Hardwork is key to success, No one gives free money.

There is hardwork, which I am fine with. Then there is roadblocking.
If all you can earn per hour (without putting money in) are around $0.05, then hardwork will get you nowhere.

[leen93]

I invested more than 20.000 $ in a similar ponzi like this.
Don't invest in this!!
It's an incredibly big scam!!! (sorry I love pink  )
I think mods should ban this user and close this topic...

[ShetKid]

If this is legit and op isn't crapping us, I just might try it

[Thekool1s]

If this is legit and op isn't crapping us, I just might try it

I am not crapping anything you can try from 5$ minimum. if you like

I invested more than 20.000 $ in a similar ponzi like this.
Don't invest in this!!
It's an incredibly big scam!!! (sorry I love pink   )
I think mods should ban this user and close this topic...

You would have invested in ad revenue sharing program I think, which didn't require you to view ads+ they can only kick start from investment. While you can join paidverts and start from zero. And Sorry for your loss . Dont you think your last part is too harsh because many people lose money in hyips like cryptominer etc but this is far better from that stuff. Because there is no return date. It can be in 1 month or few days.

Edit: The part where other become ponzi is that they dont require you to watch ads. Which in turn just becomes simple ponzi, Here the case is different you will need to watch ads. Which require hardwork and time.