SilkRoad 2 Taken down by Feds

[bitnanigans]

These guys aren't very smart, are they? I hear poor op sec is to blame.

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[moriartybitcoin]

Feds will keep playing whack-a-mole with the darknet markets until they move onto something else ...

[darkmule]

Ignorance of the law isn't a defense, even if it was plausible.

In order to be guilty of a crime the prosecution must show that the defendant intended to commit the crime he is accused of. For example if someone were to steal a pair of jeans from a clothing store, the DA must not only prove that the defendant not only stole the jeans but also intended to take the jeans without paying for them (a defense would be that the clerk did not properly ring up the jeans and put them in his bag).

That's entirely not true.  Ignorance not being a defense is such a bedrock legal principle it even has one of those fancy Latin maxims:  Ignorantia legis neminem excusat. 

You are talking about a specific intent crime.  In this case, the specific intent is to take the jeans without paying and, additionally, that the intent was to deprive the owner of them permanently, i.e. the codification of the old common law offense of petty larceny.  "I didn't know shoplifting was illegal" isn't a defense.  Just as "I didn't know dealing drugs was illegal" wouldn't be.

Additionally if someone does not know that something is a crime they may receive a somewhat lighter sentence once they are found guilty 

That's an entirely different issue from whether it is a defense in the first place.  Guilt is one thing, sentence another.

In this case, though, it is completely implausible considering his public statements that Defcon was not entirely aware that there is this "drug war" thing going on and that it is highly illegal to deal in large quantities of drugs.  Considering he was denouncing the very legal scheme he was violating, he was not only aware it was illegal, it was actually his intent to violate it and to thwart the drug war entirely.

Whether or not one agrees with him in principle on that issue, that's going to be very bad at sentencing.

[darkmule]

Feds will keep playing whack-a-mole with the darknet markets until they move onto something else ...

That would mean basically abandoning the drug war entirely.  They're not going to do that.

And if it got out that the feds were basically ignoring darknets, and throw in the fact that online ordering is vastly superior to dealing with often murderous street scum for one's buzz, the bulk of the market would move online overnight.

The federal heat is going to increase, not decrease. 

The good thing about this, for those who do not care in the least about the drug trade, is that it will inevitably lead to an arms race as surveillance and anti-surveillance technology duke it out, resulting in improved technology for the rest of us.

[Kimowa]

Feds will keep playing whack-a-mole with the darknet markets until they move onto something else ...

I disagree. As long as the world is at "war" with the drug trade, law enforcement is going to want to stop the darknet drug markets. The war on drugs has gone on for several decades now and does not appear to be slowing.

[Kimowa]

Feds will keep playing whack-a-mole with the darknet markets until they move onto something else ...

I disagree. As long as the world is at "war" with the drug trade, law enforcement is going to want to stop the darknet drug markets. The war on drugs has gone on for several decades now and does not appear to be slowing.

How do you disagree? SR gone, SR2 gone, SR3 is next...history repeats itself.

I don't think that law enforcement is going to move onto something else.

I don't think they are going to give up on the war on drugs

[QuestionAuthority]

Feds will keep playing whack-a-mole with the darknet markets until they move onto something else ...

I disagree. As long as the world is at "war" with the drug trade, law enforcement is going to want to stop the darknet drug markets. The war on drugs has gone on for several decades now and does not appear to be slowing.

How do you disagree? SR gone, SR2 gone, SR3 is next...history repeats itself.

I don't think that law enforcement is going to move onto something else.

I don't think they are going to give up on the war on drugs

I love that phrase, "war on drugs". It cracks me up. When they finish that war they're going to start a war on food and then a war on cocktails with little umbrellas. The U.S. gov likes wars with inanimate things because they don't shoot back.

[bluemountain]

Feds will keep playing whack-a-mole with the darknet markets until they move onto something else ...

I disagree. As long as the world is at "war" with the drug trade, law enforcement is going to want to stop the darknet drug markets. The war on drugs has gone on for several decades now and does not appear to be slowing.

How do you disagree? SR gone, SR2 gone, SR3 is next...history repeats itself.

I don't think that law enforcement is going to move onto something else.

I don't think they are going to give up on the war on drugs

I love that phrase, "war on drugs". It cracks me up. When they finish that war they're going to start a war on food and then a war on cocktails with little umbrellas. The U.S. gov likes wars with inanimate things because they don't shoot back.

It is called the war on drugs because the government is trying to stop the drug trade and people using illegal drugs that often are used to finance terrorism.

[Bitcoin Magazine]

I prefer Agora cause u can create your own deposit addresses.  SR 2.0 only gives u a hard-coded 6.  also can't finalize transactions.  That's another problem.  The site sucked overall.  F+

basically created by an ass-clown that doesn't give a sh** about Security.  arrest him and his bitch bible reading ass

[QuestionAuthority]

Feds will keep playing whack-a-mole with the darknet markets until they move onto something else ...

I disagree. As long as the world is at "war" with the drug trade, law enforcement is going to want to stop the darknet drug markets. The war on drugs has gone on for several decades now and does not appear to be slowing.

How do you disagree? SR gone, SR2 gone, SR3 is next...history repeats itself.

I don't think that law enforcement is going to move onto something else.

I don't think they are going to give up on the war on drugs

I love that phrase, "war on drugs". It cracks me up. When they finish that war they're going to start a war on food and then a war on cocktails with little umbrellas. The U.S. gov likes wars with inanimate things because they don't shoot back.

It is called the war on drugs because the government is trying to stop the drug trade and people using illegal drugs that often are used to finance terrorism.

[bryant.coleman]

This American war on drugs is a joke. By doing this "war on drugs", they are indirectly helping the Mexican drug cartels (by removing the local competition). Also, how can they claim any justification for this, when NATO troops are actively engaged in protecting and transporting the Afghan heroin production? (Well... Afghan heroin kills tens of thousands of Russians and Iranians every year.... so as per the NATO, they do more good than bad).

[darkmule]

It is called the war on drugs because the government is trying to stop the drug trade and people using illegal drugs that often are used to finance terrorism.

They're not really trying to do that.  They're trying to keep their for-profit prisons full and control the population.  Also, they use the drug trade themselves to hide at least part of the black budgets for intelligence agencies like the CIA.  Whether it's to fund the Contras during Reagan or, now, the CIA's cozy relationship with the Sinaloa cartel in Mexico, the government has always played both sides of the tracks in the "drug war" game.

[Riniaiokl]

These guys aren't very smart, are they? I hear poor op sec is to blame.

Yeah, right - you would expect them to be smarter than this.

[CryptoGuu]

It is called the war on drugs because the government is trying to stop the drug trade and people using illegal drugs that often are used to finance terrorism.

They're not really trying to do that.  They're trying to keep their for-profit prisons full and control the population.  Also, they use the drug trade themselves to hide at least part of the black budgets for intelligence agencies like the CIA.  Whether it's to fund the Contras during Reagan or, now, the CIA's cozy relationship with the Sinaloa cartel in Mexico, the government has always played both sides of the tracks in the "drug war" game.

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the talibans fighted against the drugs but not the USA.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/13/world/asia/afghan-elections-cited-as-factor-in-record-levels-of-opium-production.html

[BitcoinAccepted]

It is called the war on drugs because the government is trying to stop the drug trade and people using illegal drugs that often are used to finance terrorism.

Production and sale of illegal drugs keeps more families above the poverty line than respective governments do to alleviate the plight of the poor in drug producing countries.

Trade in illegal drugs finances many things but mostly funds the production and distribution of more illegal drugs.
 

[CoinCidental]

There is just too much money involved for this to end anytime soon

I predict 5 new sites for every one that gets busted

[bryant.coleman]

+1

the talibans fighted against the drugs but not the USA.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/13/world/asia/afghan-elections-cited-as-factor-in-record-levels-of-opium-production.html

Actually the NATO is encouraging Afghan opium production. They are even helping the drug smugglers to transport their stuff to Russia and Iran. Well... these photos speak better than any proof:

[AGD]

+1

the talibans fighted against the drugs but not the USA.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/13/world/asia/afghan-elections-cited-as-factor-in-record-levels-of-opium-production.html

Actually the NATO is encouraging Afghan opium production. They are even helping the drug smugglers to transport their stuff to Russia and Iran. Well... these photos speak better than any proof:

This literally is a war "on" drugs.

[BayAreaCoins]

+1

the talibans fighted against the drugs but not the USA.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/13/world/asia/afghan-elections-cited-as-factor-in-record-levels-of-opium-production.html

Actually the NATO is encouraging Afghan opium production. They are even helping the drug smugglers to transport their stuff to Russia and Iran. Well... these photos speak better than any proof:

This literally is a war "on" drugs.

You can have a permit over there.  *wooo* Fucking permit fuckery