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November 04, 2014, 04:28:27 AM
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Maybe they should use this picture on their web site. I will offer it to them free of charge and not request any royalties.  Tongue

See: https://hashcoin.com/white-paper

If that is what they seriously consider a real industry (or even grade school) white-paper that took weeks-months to produce and has been "attorney" approved for release, they just earned themselves some mickey mouse ears. Oh wait... never mind! It is just a draft! Sometime™ in the future, the real one will be produced. Mr. CEO promised so it must be 101% true.

Plagiarizing much of the original Satoshi Nakamoto P/P ECS concepts already used world wide today in existing Bitcoin POS and ATM terminals also shows how hollow their claims are. At this juncture, I could say a lot more, but will just leave it with a simple BUYER BEWARE.

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November 04, 2014, 05:23:00 AM
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LMAO. Seriously. You just made my night.  Grin
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November 04, 2014, 09:46:11 AM
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Why not give them a chance?

They look serious, they have ideas, and they try to do something useful for cryptos.

Bitcoin was a great move, but it failed so much for price stability and wider adoption.
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November 04, 2014, 10:09:05 AM
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Bitcoin was a great move, but it failed so much for price stability and wider adoption.


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November 04, 2014, 10:35:30 AM
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What can't you understand yak?

Do you know any merchant that holds bitcoins instead of FIAT, even if they accept it ?
If they do, they have lost much money.
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November 04, 2014, 10:36:26 AM
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What can't you understand yak?

Do you know any merchant that holds bitcoins instead of FIAT, even if they accept it ?
If they do, they have lost much money.

uh.... the company that you are talking about for one.........................................................................

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November 04, 2014, 10:45:07 AM
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What can't you understand yak?

Do you know any merchant that holds bitcoins instead of FIAT, even if they accept it ?
If they do, they have lost much money.

uh.... the company that you are talking about for one.........................................................................


By merchant, I mean standard merchant... not a bitcoin specialized company !
A merchant which doesn't handle crypto currencies. Your supermarket. Your electricity re-seller. Etc.
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November 04, 2014, 06:47:25 PM
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Why not give them a chance?

They look serious, they have ideas, and they try to do something useful for cryptos.

Bitcoin was a great move, but it failed so much for price stability and wider adoption.

Bitcoin is still up 1000's of times its original value and ongoing market corrections are the nature of the game. BTC is being accepted in more areas of the transitional global market everyday and will remain magnitudes larger than anything else for the foreseeable future ...and I say this as a hardcore Dogecoin, LTC, and other altcoin supporter. A seven month old 12-15 person company run by a novice in the business world who knows nothing about the inner workings of encryption and can't fix existing customer issues within his own "house" has not and will not make any noticeable impact in this industry; regardless of what his overinflated ego and followers are chanting.

In summary, a legitimate idea and desire to better anything is what stems progression in any industry. However, when an idea is contrived from greed, misinformation, false promises, censorship, and litigation threats in order to cover-up oppositional views, there is no room for that "idea" as it is simply a scheme in reality.

What GAW/Zen wants to do TO and not FOR the crypto industry is flawed, introduces nothing new/novel, and only attempts to derail the fundamental nature the original concept of a decentralized yet secure medium of value exchange stands for. Like many attempts before them, they will fail sooner or later and unfortunately a lot of people will be left holding empty crypto wallets. As history has taught us, choose to ignore or not learn from the past and you will be condemned to repeat it.

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November 04, 2014, 06:53:38 PM
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Well, it's financially backed and basically the first ever coin without an anonymous developer who won't pump and dump the shit out of the coin. It's backed financially and everything. Why would anyone have a problem with a coin that has a smaller risk than anything else and already has backup money in cases where they need to develop more features or get things done?
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November 04, 2014, 07:03:02 PM
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Well, it's financially backed and basically the first ever coin without an anonymous developer who won't pump and dump the shit out of the coin. It's backed financially and everything. Why would anyone have a problem with a coin that has a smaller risk than anything else and already has backup money in cases where they need to develop more features or get things done?

Some of those with problems are the usual haters who advertise other cloud sites in their spare time.


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November 04, 2014, 07:14:04 PM
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Well, it's financially backed and basically the first ever coin without an anonymous developer who won't pump and dump the shit out of the coin. It's backed financially and everything. Why would anyone have a problem with a coin that has a smaller risk than anything else and already has backup money in cases where they need to develop more features or get things done?

Where is the proof of this backing? Where is ANY of the substance behind the repeated yet shallow claims? A successful crypto-coin, like BTC, LTC, and Doge didn't have or need any financial backing and EARNED every % of value (high or low) based on the global community they serve.

Too many people these days think a coin can only be successful it if is immediately valuable and makes people rich over night. This is why there are so many pump and dumps and coin failures within hours of release. Likewise, this is NOT what the spirit of cryptocutrrency is about or why it was explored in the first place. In reality, it takes (more often) a simple cause with crowd sourcing and communal adoption based on the intrinsic merits of the coin and what it physically represents - not unsubstantiated hype, elusive FIAT shoring up, and centralized control.

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November 04, 2014, 07:15:04 PM
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Some of those with problems are the usual haters who advertise other cloud sites in their spare time.

So, what is your excuse and why are you here?
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November 04, 2014, 09:02:09 PM
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Well, it's financially backed and basically the first ever coin without an anonymous developer who won't pump and dump the shit out of the coin. It's backed financially and everything. Why would anyone have a problem with a coin that has a smaller risk than anything else and already has backup money in cases where they need to develop more features or get things done?





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November 04, 2014, 09:08:20 PM
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What can't you understand yak?

Do you know any merchant that holds bitcoins instead of FIAT, even if they accept it ?
If they do, they have lost much money.

uh.... the company that you are talking about for one.........................................................................


By merchant, I mean standard merchant... not a bitcoin specialized company !
A merchant which doesn't handle crypto currencies. Your supermarket. Your electricity re-seller. Etc.

maybe you live in a hole in the ground... or in the past somehow, but if you were to actually follow *ANY* crypto related news you would understand what you are saying is blatantly false.

the world isn't your 2 mile radius where you live. i suggest you look into some of the places in europe where large portions of entire cities businesses are adopting bitcoin (and keeping over 25% of it *IN* bitcoin)

maybe you should think about how paypal will handle bitcoin once its fully adopted into the paypal ecosystem, they will need to keep huge reserves of it.

regardless you seem to have some reading up to do.

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November 04, 2014, 11:27:25 PM
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but will just leave it with a simple BUYER BEWARE.

Sums up GAW for the past few months.

Thank you for making this post KC.
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November 04, 2014, 11:41:20 PM
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What can't you understand yak?

Do you know any merchant that holds bitcoins instead of FIAT, even if they accept it ?
If they do, they have lost much money.

uh.... the company that you are talking about for one.........................................................................


By merchant, I mean standard merchant... not a bitcoin specialized company !
A merchant which doesn't handle crypto currencies. Your supermarket. Your electricity re-seller. Etc.

Actually, yes - Overstock.com

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November 05, 2014, 12:43:14 AM
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Is the questioner representative of the gawminers? What kind of question is that?

How about Dell Computers and Newegg.com. Maybe they are not familiar with these companies? Newegg is a 2.5 billion dollar hardware and software retailer. Dell Computers is a 56 billion dollar hardware and software retailer. Real companies with real products. Perhaps playing with virtual nonsense at gawminers is where this questioner belongs. Nice and play play and easy to operate eh. Nice make believe simple "stuff".

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November 05, 2014, 12:56:57 AM
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Millions of subscribers here in the US, including myself, have had the option to pay our monthly DishNetwork satellite TV bill in BTC for a few months now.

Personally, if a proven multi-billion dollar company with 14M customers and hardware (the "hopper") that allows me to skip commercials while watching my favorite primetime shows is open to and promotes BTC, I would say things are looking pretty good for me and crypto in general. Since Coinbase is also involved, expect LTC, Doge, and other coin support soon.  

Ref: http://about.dish.com/press-release/products-and-services/dish-accept-bitcoin

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November 05, 2014, 05:45:06 AM
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Well GAW is launching a new project which is always good news for the people. I don't know what are you talking about because for the community and to promote cryptocurrencies something like that is really awesome idea.
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November 05, 2014, 07:33:21 AM
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Well GAW is launching a new project which is always good news for the people. I don't know what are you talking about because for the community and to promote cryptocurrencies something like that is really awesome idea.

great to see such an unbiased view.

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