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January 29, 2015, 06:09:35 PM
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Ethereum is much more than just simple smart contracts.
I think you are doing better not to compare your project with them everytime.

But I have a question. Besides Burst, are there other coins interested in implementing your AT? Some serious projects like NXT, etc. etc.?





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January 29, 2015, 06:16:54 PM
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But I have a question. Besides Burst, are there other coins interested in implementing your AT? Some serious projects like NXT, etc. etc.?

Qora will be doing AT very soon and a few other alt coins have approached us with interest to implement AT.

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January 29, 2015, 06:18:59 PM
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But I have a question. Besides Burst, are there other coins interested in implementing your AT? Some serious projects like NXT, etc. etc.?

Qora will be doing AT very soon and a few other alt coins have approached us with interest to implement AT.


Qora is almost dead. What about NXT, Bitshares, Bitcoin, some top 10 or at least top 20 coins?


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January 29, 2015, 06:22:08 PM
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Qora is almost dead. What about NXT, Bitshares, Bitcoin, some top 10 or at least top 20 coins?

I'd say wait and see about Qora - Bitshares has its own SC system and Bitcoin is not interested in one for now.

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January 29, 2015, 06:46:18 PM
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Ethereum is much more than just simple smart contracts.
I think you are doing better not to compare your project with them everytime.

But I have a question. Besides Burst, are there other coins interested in implementing your AT? Some serious projects like NXT, etc. etc.?



ATs are also much more. It might be the "engine" that provides smart contract functionality, but also can close the gap between these different platforms, giving them a way to communicate through ATs. It can be the link of a larger cryptosystem with multiple different platforms in it. 

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January 29, 2015, 07:02:28 PM
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If you think the purpose of what we are trying to achieve here ( not specifically us - the AT team ) but in general, then the key word is decentralization. Decentralization does not mean one chain or one platform rules them all, that is not decentralization. The competition is a good thing as it pushes the creativity upwards. There are a lot of developers ( and not only devs ) that have spend hours working on their coins and all we want is to give them a chance to be updated with the latest technological achievements and that is the reason we created AT.

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January 29, 2015, 11:21:01 PM
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Qora is almost dead. What about NXT, Bitshares, Bitcoin, some top 10 or at least top 20 coins?

I'd say wait and see about Qora - Bitshares has its own SC system and Bitcoin is not interested in one for now.


You skipped NXT! Would you be up to help if approached by them?

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January 30, 2015, 04:47:09 AM
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You skipped NXT! Would you be up to help if approached by them?

They were initially involved but then rejected AT in favour of some other smart contract idea.

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February 05, 2015, 09:41:14 PM
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I still don't see why I should invest in anything that isn't MAIDSafe, it's the original project (started in 2006) and has lots of interesting stuff already shown. How are the other MAID alternatives any better?

That project was not about "smart contracts" but about P2P storage and it is not designed to be incorporated into existing blockchains (so apples and pears).


Can it work with crypto torrents?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=932096.msg10231367#msg10231367

What effort would be involved in enabling the project to become an in-wallet torrent seeder?
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February 10, 2015, 01:28:07 PM
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 http://ciyam.org/at is down
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February 10, 2015, 01:41:02 PM
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http://ciyam.org/at/ is working for me.
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February 10, 2015, 01:43:25 PM
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February 10, 2015, 04:54:53 PM
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Hi CIYAM,

Congratulations on AT! You've obviously put a lot of effort into it and it's a wonderful project. Thank you.

I've been coding for over 20 years and I still have difficulty writing actual code in AT machine code.. Sorry.. gave up machine code on my Spectrum 48k.. ;-p (ld hl 16384.. etc.. )

Is there any chance of converting a higher level language, say like java, into AT commands ?

Could we come up with a parser which converts a minimal java.lang subset into AT ?

I believe you mentioned this in some other thread but i can't find it..

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February 10, 2015, 05:00:53 PM
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The developer of Burst has created this: https://github.com/BurstProject/ATAssembler which makes it much easier to write ATs (you don't need to do raw machine code which is a huge step forward).

Currently we are looking to extend this into a "macro assembler" that should make building ATs much simpler and our main strategy is to use Software Manufacturing (so that code is *generated* from just using HTML forms meaning that you wouldn't need to actually "write code" at all).

Eventually we'll get to adding a HLL assuming the project gains enough momentum but we have only a small number of part-time devs and basically zero funds so we can only get so much done (this is where Ethereum does have a huge advantage over us).

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February 10, 2015, 05:06:31 PM
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Hi CIYAM,

Congratulations on AT! You've obviously put a lot of effort into it and it's a wonderful project. Thank you.

I've been coding for over 20 years and I still have difficulty writing actual code in AT machine code.. Sorry.. gave up machine code on my Spectrum 48k.. ;-p (ld hl 16384.. etc.. )

Is there any chance of converting a higher level language, say like java, into AT commands ?

Could we come up with a parser which converts a minimal java.lang subset into AT ?

I believe you mentioned this in some other thread but i can't find it..

You can also find a "tutorial" here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=949438.msg10408276#msg10408276

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