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June 06, 2012, 11:06:13 PM
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If you buy them directly from BFL (at $599 not counting shipping) you'll have all of them paid in 5.8 months. If you buy them from the seller you'll pay them off in 9.0 months. Btw, it's 6.9 BTC per day. I guess one can gamble on the exchange rate increasing to make up for  the price premium :p


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June 07, 2012, 12:25:38 AM
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June 07, 2012, 11:42:31 AM
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If you buy them directly from BFL (at $599 not counting shipping) you'll have all of them paid in 5.8 months. If you buy them from the seller you'll pay them off in 9.0 months. Btw, it's 6.9 BTC per day. I guess one can gamble on the exchange rate increasing to make up for  the price premium :p



or one could gamble on BFL taking longer than the 66 days your math shows is needed to be profitable buying one for a premium. It is possible they have more delays. Is also possible they have no more delays but cancel the singles before too long. ;p

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June 07, 2012, 02:56:53 PM
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If you buy them directly from BFL (at $599 not counting shipping) you'll have all of them paid in 5.8 months. If you buy them from the seller you'll pay them off in 9.0 months. Btw, it's 6.9 BTC per day. I guess one can gamble on the exchange rate increasing to make up for  the price premium :p



What the hell are you smoking? 

If you buy a single direct from BFL, you first must wait AT LEAST 50 days for delivery.  Then you get to start paying it back.  Assuming difficulty of 1,600,000.....a single will yield $2.88 per day.  $599/$2.88 = 208 days.  Add in the 50 days you spent waiting for the damn thing, and your payback period is 258 days.  258/30 = 8.6.

8.6 months is your payback on buying them direct from BFL.  AND THAT IS ASSUMING BEST CASE ON THE SHIPPING TIME. 

basic math is tough around here. 

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June 07, 2012, 03:17:45 PM
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If you buy them directly from BFL (at $599 not counting shipping) you'll have all of them paid in 5.8 months. If you buy them from the seller you'll pay them off in 9.0 months. Btw, it's 6.9 BTC per day. I guess one can gamble on the exchange rate increasing to make up for  the price premium :p



What the hell are you smoking?  

If you buy a single direct from BFL, you first must wait AT LEAST 50 days for delivery.  Then you get to start paying it back.  Assuming difficulty of 1,600,000.....a single will yield $2.88 per day.  $599/$2.88 = 208 days.  Add in the 50 days you spent waiting for the damn thing, and your payback period is 258 days.  258/30 = 8.6.

8.6 months is your payback on buying them direct from BFL.  AND THAT IS ASSUMING BEST CASE ON THE SHIPPING TIME.  

basic math is tough around here.  

and that is assuming the exchange rate and difficulty are constant.

You could very well be making 1/2 of what you do NOW 7 months in the future.  Mining NOW will yield more BTC rather than starting later.  (unless difficulty drops than this is void)

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June 07, 2012, 06:35:34 PM
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I just want to state that this is not some sort of get rich quick scheme for me but a definitive move to liquidate my hardware holdings, patiently.  The amounts in this deal don't really classify as rich anyway if you've talked to the real players around here. Smiley

I would like to point out that there are two ways to look at my 'premium'. One is to look at the price differential at the time of purchase to BFL which would yield 45%. The other is after the questionable delivery date from BFL which yields a premium up to 22% at say 50 days to be generous.

I have only ever looked at this deal from the latter viewpoint as the former is a very shortsighted view. This 'premium' in essence can be classified as a sales tax and similar to Europe's VAT.

Another point in my consideration is the ability of the purchaser to trade in the singles for ASICs down the line when necessary. This ability has a value in and of itself and I believe a highly regarded one considering Bitcoins future.

Finally comes the 800lb gorilla and that is what did your Bitcoin hoard actually cost you to generate? I am fairly certain that it wasn't current market rates which they are always religiously compared to. I never consider my mined Bitcoins to be worth more than I paid to make them and I am happier for it (stress is a killer people). Grin

I think I have made my thought processes clear on this matter and I will say no more. Thanks for understanding.

At this point as before please PM your offer if interested and feel free to keep discussing the matter here.


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June 08, 2012, 09:25:17 PM
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I'll buy two if you can give them to me at a reasonable price.
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June 08, 2012, 09:39:05 PM
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I am still trying to figure out a way to get these!!!

I don't want to wait a year for BFL!!!

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June 09, 2012, 02:41:45 AM
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I was bidding on these, but he claimed to have a higher bid.  I'm waiting to see who won or if I was secretly being gamed.

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June 09, 2012, 02:45:29 AM
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I was bidding on these, but he claimed to have a higher bid.  I'm waiting to see who won or if I was secretly being gamed.

Cablez is straight up legit.....you won't find a more straight forward guy. 

I highly doubt he is trying to game anyone.  Just FWIW......

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June 09, 2012, 02:47:18 AM
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I was bidding on these, but he claimed to have a higher bid.  I'm waiting to see who won or if I was secretly being gamed.

Cablez is straight up legit.....you won't find a more straight forward guy. 

I highly doubt he is trying to game anyone.  Just FWIW......

Fair enough.  I'll strike my second comment.

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June 09, 2012, 12:45:15 PM
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In all honesty imsaguy, you are still in the running for these.

This is being a most difficult sale to make considering the breadth of offers I have to sift through.  They generally fall into three camps: you have the lowballers, those without direct funds, and those without BTC.

The range of offer types is staggering, things I would not have thought of to trade are being offered in lieu of BTC. (thank goodness no kidneys) Wink  Offers do drop out as well so the high person today may not be high person tomorrow. Currently I am waiting on one serious finalized offer from someone and then hopefully I can put this to rest.

So to all people interested I apologize for any perceived delays but I am working as diligently as I can on this when I have free time. Thanks.

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June 09, 2012, 04:26:23 PM
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In all honesty imsaguy, you are still in the running for these.

This is being a most difficult sale to make considering the breadth of offers I have to sift through.  They generally fall into three camps: you have the lowballers, those without direct funds, and those without BTC.

The range of offer types is staggering, things I would not have thought of to trade are being offered in lieu of BTC. (thank goodness no kidneys) Wink  Offers do drop out as well so the high person today may not be high person tomorrow. Currently I am waiting on one serious finalized offer from someone and then hopefully I can put this to rest.

So to all people interested I apologize for any perceived delays but I am working as diligently as I can on this when I have free time. Thanks.

Well, as I stated originally, my offer was based on me receiving these on June 8, 2012.  That is going to be pretty hard to accomplish at this point.

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June 09, 2012, 04:39:15 PM
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I have btc and I wont lowball you. Just give me a fair price on 2 of them and I'll send the coins today.
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June 09, 2012, 04:53:32 PM
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@imsaguy - Ah, I see now.  Would you like me to take your offer completely off the table then?

@lolwut - At this point I would like to finish up getting the final offers for the whole lot.  If this sale doesn't pan out then I will consider doing this piecemeal and get back to you.  Thanks

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June 09, 2012, 05:05:38 PM
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I won't ask Cablez so its not conflict of interest and he isn't violating anyone's trust...

who else is bidding on these?

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June 09, 2012, 05:24:52 PM
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I'm bidding as well, but not raw BTC
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June 09, 2012, 05:47:05 PM
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I'm willing to pay 140btc/per, but I don't want to wait until next week for a decision.  The whole point of paying the premium is that there is no wait.  Otherwise, I'd just send my btc to bfl and get in line.  As it is, I've lost 3 days to this.

I've talked with lolwut and he's combining his bid with mine.

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June 09, 2012, 05:48:54 PM
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I'm willing to pay 140btc/per, but I don't want to wait until next week for a decision.  The whole point of paying the premium is that there is no wait.  Otherwise, I'd just send my btc to bfl and get in line.  As it is, I've lost 3 days to this.

I've talked with lolwut and he's combining his bid with mine.

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June 09, 2012, 06:20:35 PM
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Hello imsaguy and lolwut.  I have read your offer and thank you for your interest.  There are two gentlemen who have said they would get back to me with final offers so I would like to wait until they have spoken.

It is past 2PM here anyway and USPS is closed so I cannot possibly ship out today anymore. The earliest now would be Monday morning.


This sale was never intended to be some kind of auction.  My thoughts were to come close to 1$/Mh as that is still cheaper than most FPGA offerings being sold currently aside from waiting for BFL itself.
This weeks exchange rate drama was completely unexpected and has worked against me the entire time.  I will try to wrap this up as efficiently as I can.

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