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November 09, 2014, 08:12:37 AM
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EUROPOL THREATENS TO COME AFTER PEOPLE USING BITCOIN ON DARK NET MARKETPLACES LIKE SILK ROAD 3.0

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/europol-threatens-come-people-using-bitcoin-dark-net-marketplaces-like-silk-road-3-0/

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November 09, 2014, 08:23:40 AM
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!!! OH NO !!! CANT BELIEVE THAT !!!

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November 09, 2014, 08:52:39 AM
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“In the next wave we’re going to come after people using these sites,” he said. “They might hear a knock at the door.”

Fearmongering. Doubt they're going to go after Little Johnny having half an ounce shipped to his parents, plus haven't they got bigger fish to fry? These markets are never going to stop and when you take one down another will just replace it.

“I think there will be more than 55 different markets shut down. We didn’t get (major sites) Agora or Evolution, because there’s only so much we can do on one day.”

I think they meant to say, "I think there will be more than 55 different markets shut down. We didn’t get (major sites) Agora or Evolution, because they are honey-pot operations secretly maintained by law enforcement.

What do you base this on? Are you claiming they were set up by LE or have just been infiltrated/taken over?

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November 09, 2014, 09:19:19 AM
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Evidence? And what community is this? There's always people who accuse every market of being a honeypot usually just based on suspicion and paranoia. I don't doubt they try infiltrate them, but wouldn't setting up your own black market be entrapment or at the very least just plain illegal?

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November 09, 2014, 10:02:50 AM
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they are honey-pot operations secretly maintained by law enforcement.
If that was true it would truly be amazing, a genius ploy that would have made history for the ages.

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November 09, 2014, 08:36:26 PM
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Evidence? And what community is this? There's always people who accuse every market of being a honeypot usually just based on suspicion and paranoia. I don't doubt they try infiltrate them, but wouldn't setting up your own black market be entrapment or at the very least just plain illegal?
It would only be entrapment if they solicited others to buy/sell illegal items. If people were to simply host the site and not advertise, but people come to the site anyway then it is not entrapment.
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November 09, 2014, 08:50:02 PM
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Evidence? And what community is this? There's always people who accuse every market of being a honeypot usually just based on suspicion and paranoia. I don't doubt they try infiltrate them, but wouldn't setting up your own black market be entrapment or at the very least just plain illegal?
It would only be entrapment if they solicited others to buy/sell illegal items. If people were to simply host the site and not advertise, but people come to the site anyway then it is not entrapment.

The secret service can do whatever they want including running a fake ID factory for several years and actually selling real fake IDs http://www.wired.com/2013/07/open-market/

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November 09, 2014, 08:54:37 PM
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Evidence? And what community is this? There's always people who accuse every market of being a honeypot usually just based on suspicion and paranoia. I don't doubt they try infiltrate them, but wouldn't setting up your own black market be entrapment or at the very least just plain illegal?
It would only be entrapment if they solicited others to buy/sell illegal items. If people were to simply host the site and not advertise, but people come to the site anyway then it is not entrapment.

The secret service can do whatever they want including running a fake ID factory for several years and actually selling real fake IDs http://www.wired.com/2013/07/open-market/
The same is true for other branches of law enforcement when it comes to selling/buying drugs, as this is how many drug dealers are caught (an under cover officer buying illegal drugs from a drug dealer)
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November 10, 2014, 12:45:08 AM
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Evidence? And what community is this? There's always people who accuse every market of being a honeypot usually just based on suspicion and paranoia. I don't doubt they try infiltrate them, but wouldn't setting up your own black market be entrapment or at the very least just plain illegal?


No, it won't be entrapment. But illegal yes(facilitating in drug trafficking). But, I believe it's common knowledge that a decent enough portion of those markets are run by law enforcement, or those connected to.

I believe user's of those darknet sites are in trouble if they:

a) Are Large vendors/sellers

b) Are frequent Consumers

c) Are staff/admins of said marketplace

d) Use/Accept Bitcoin to buy goods or receive as payment(Blockchain Analysis Programs)
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November 10, 2014, 02:24:31 AM
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Evidence? And what community is this? There's always people who accuse every market of being a honeypot usually just based on suspicion and paranoia. I don't doubt they try infiltrate them, but wouldn't setting up your own black market be entrapment or at the very least just plain illegal?


No, it won't be entrapment. But illegal yes(facilitating in drug trafficking). But, I believe it's common knowledge that a decent enough portion of those markets are run by law enforcement, or those connected to.
The law enforcement agencies that are investigating crimes are generally able commit what would otherwise be a crime if the purpose is to catch criminals committing worse crimes. This sounds very much backwards however the law is written this way
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November 10, 2014, 02:35:44 AM
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November 10, 2014, 02:47:57 AM
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EUROPOL THREATENS TO COME AFTER PEOPLE USING BITCOIN ON DARK NET MARKETPLACES LIKE SILK ROAD 3.0

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/europol-threatens-come-people-using-bitcoin-dark-net-marketplaces-like-silk-road-3-0/
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November 10, 2014, 03:30:19 AM
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People were fighting black market for centuries and it always prevailed. It doesn't matter how many sites they close new ones will keep appearing as long as there is demand for their services. Just like hookers and pimps were always around and will be a hundred years from now.

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November 10, 2014, 03:39:34 AM
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It's already been done@!
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November 10, 2014, 03:46:22 AM
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I think there will be more than 55 different markets shut down.

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November 10, 2014, 01:08:04 PM
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Evidence? And what community is this? There's always people who accuse every market of being a honeypot usually just based on suspicion and paranoia. I don't doubt they try infiltrate them, but wouldn't setting up your own black market be entrapment or at the very least just plain illegal?
Well, the FBI has a long history of using entrapment as it's primary tool.  I do not think it really matters what legalese they use to justify or permit it, it is the way it is.

There would definitely be some of us they would not want on juries...
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November 10, 2014, 04:38:14 PM
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Ha ha, Oerting, the Barty Crouch of Europol  Cheesy

I am surprised they find qualified staff at all, how kaputt must a qualified IT professional be to work for a place like that.

I don't believe these markets keep logfiles/account histories of their customers, that would be immensely stupid.

Why does Europol not utilize their resources to catch the countless scammers in the Bitcoin world? Ah, of course, they want to destroy BTC, so scammers are their natural allies. In fact government officials are following a similar business model, whereas the so called "dark marketplaces" are really based on mutual consent.

Taxes and BTC hackers/scammers are not based on mutual consent.

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November 10, 2014, 04:52:27 PM
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So what is special about this?
You're doing illegal things. If you use fiat, or Bitcoin they will come for you if they find out about it.


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November 10, 2014, 04:58:21 PM
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So what is special about this?
You're doing illegal things. If you use fiat, or Bitcoin they will come for you if they find out about it.

True.
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November 10, 2014, 08:47:03 PM
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Someone should tell them about OpenBazaar Smiley

The millions of $$$ wasted taking down a few sites could have been spent on catching the real criminals (politicians, banksters and lobbyists)
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