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December 07, 2015, 10:22:45 AM
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when I was a newbie I used to earn via cex.io.

cex.io was very popular two years ago. But their electricity price and maintenance fee are high. Their miners are too old and not efficient any more.
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December 07, 2015, 04:56:27 PM
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5) no proof of h/w (thats why i am cautious with gigahash)

Actually, what is more important than 'proof' of hardware, which can always be faked, is proof of hashrate. This is extremely easy for the cloud mining operator to show live 24/7, they only need to show blocks being mined as they happened and from this can be extrapolated a rough hashrate.

The only problem with this is establishing that they haven't sold more hashrate than they evidently possess.

Which is why, if you really can't run your own hardware in-house but still want to mine, you're better off avoiding restrictive 'cloud mining' schemes altogether and simply renting actual rigs or straight-up hash-power which you can point wherever you wish.



You really need a vouch from a manufacture of asics.  For example hashnest it is bitmain... so pretty good there.  A second kind is like Bit-X where Bitfury came out to vouch they paid for 1PH of hash for their site.   

So there is a few different way's but you can find good vouches for certain sites.  Some will try to avoid this question on hardware.... those that do I would never invest with.
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December 07, 2015, 05:12:54 PM
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I have a bit of ghs with eobot.  I'm considering getting some ghs on hashnest as well.

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December 08, 2015, 12:22:59 PM
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I have a bit of ghs with eobot.  I'm considering getting some ghs on hashnest as well.

Never tried eobot, hows their service?
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December 08, 2015, 05:28:33 PM
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I have a bit of ghs with eobot.  I'm considering getting some ghs on hashnest as well.

Never tried eobot, hows their service?

Just look at site and make your own judgement.. but look at "SHA-256 5 Year Contracts Sold"

Do you know of a single BTC miner that lasts 5 years?  I sure don't know of any with fees that would make it near this.  So I consider it bad right there.  And that is before the fact no evidence of hardware that I see.
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December 14, 2015, 10:32:23 PM
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5) no proof of h/w (thats why i am cautious with gigahash)

Actually, what is more important than 'proof' of hardware, which can always be faked, is proof of hashrate. This is extremely easy for the cloud mining operator to show live 24/7, they only need to show blocks being mined as they happened and from this can be extrapolated a rough hashrate.

The only problem with this is establishing that they haven't sold more hashrate than they evidently possess.

Which is why, if you really can't run your own hardware in-house but still want to mine, you're better off avoiding restrictive 'cloud mining' schemes altogether and simply renting actual rigs or straight-up hash-power which you can point wherever you wish.



Where does this logic of your go while you evaluate Bit-X ?
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December 14, 2015, 11:44:27 PM
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whats your think about zeushash ? i just invest some bits thier now i'm getting  1$ / month
do you advise me to invest more BTC thier? or u can tell me which company good for mining ?

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December 15, 2015, 12:20:05 AM
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Many of the called "cloud mining" programs nowadays, are just scam sites and ponzi schemes , so bhe careful before investing or deposit in such sites, you could lose your coins easily
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December 15, 2015, 07:31:56 AM
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5) no proof of h/w (thats why i am cautious with gigahash)

Actually, what is more important than 'proof' of hardware, which can always be faked, is proof of hashrate. This is extremely easy for the cloud mining operator to show live 24/7, they only need to show blocks being mined as they happened and from this can be extrapolated a rough hashrate.

The only problem with this is establishing that they haven't sold more hashrate than they evidently possess.

Which is why, if you really can't run your own hardware in-house but still want to mine, you're better off avoiding restrictive 'cloud mining' schemes altogether and simply renting actual rigs or straight-up hash-power which you can point wherever you wish.



Where does this logic of your go while you evaluate Bit-X ?

Same old same old from GermanGiant/SpanishSoldier/RussianRaibow accusing me of having an agenda of promoting Bit-X simply because I actively assist newbies to recognise that most Cloud Mining operations are actually just ponzi/fractional mining scams.

Trouble is GG/SS/RR keeps forgetting that I have already commented to his weak accusation that as far as I'm concerned Bit-X could indeed be fractional mining as they only have a specific amount of PH/s provably purchased.

I don't give a shit what you think, scammer, I'd sooner tell all users to avoid cloud mining like the fucking plague.

Still doesn't change the fact that your criminal operation of cloudmining.website is a fraudulent scam. Don't think I didn't notice, by the way, that the 'bitcoinblackfriday' dot info scam copy of the dot com legit site had fraudulently-represented clone copies of legit services it was linking to but, and here's the funny part, cloudmining.website was linked to with no alteration whatsoever. It's almost as if the operators of the cloning fraud had an interest in promoting your fraudulent scam, while ripping off anybody who was clicking through to other services.


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December 15, 2015, 07:39:23 AM
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whats your think about zeushash ? i just invest some bits thier now i'm getting  1$ / month
do you advise me to invest more BTC thier? or u can tell me which company good for mining ?

no, invest only in bit-x or hashnest at this point, the rest might be scammer, maybe they pay you at first, only to gaina  little trust but then they will scam you some way

by increasing fee, by suspending your hash etc...
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December 15, 2015, 06:22:58 PM
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5) no proof of h/w (thats why i am cautious with gigahash)

Actually, what is more important than 'proof' of hardware, which can always be faked, is proof of hashrate. This is extremely easy for the cloud mining operator to show live 24/7, they only need to show blocks being mined as they happened and from this can be extrapolated a rough hashrate.

The only problem with this is establishing that they haven't sold more hashrate than they evidently possess.

Which is why, if you really can't run your own hardware in-house but still want to mine, you're better off avoiding restrictive 'cloud mining' schemes altogether and simply renting actual rigs or straight-up hash-power which you can point wherever you wish.



Where does this logic of your go while you evaluate Bit-X ?

Same old same old from GermanGiant/SpanishSoldier/RussianRaibow accusing me of having an agenda of promoting Bit-X simply because I actively assist newbies to recognise that most Cloud Mining operations are actually just ponzi/fractional mining scams.

Trouble is GG/SS/RR keeps forgetting that I have already commented to his weak accusation that as far as I'm concerned Bit-X could indeed be fractional mining as they only have a specific amount of PH/s provably purchased.

I don't give a shit what you think, scammer, I'd sooner tell all users to avoid cloud mining like the fucking plague.

Still doesn't change the fact that your criminal operation of cloudmining.website is a fraudulent scam. Don't think I didn't notice, by the way, that the 'bitcoinblackfriday' dot info scam copy of the dot com legit site had fraudulently-represented clone copies of legit services it was linking to but, and here's the funny part, cloudmining.website was linked to with no alteration whatsoever. It's almost as if the operators of the cloning fraud had an interest in promoting your fraudulent scam, while ripping off anybody who was clicking through to other services.



I use to get the same thing I think he got tired of me.  I always pointed twords Bitfury vouching for Bit-X 1 PH.  Bit-X is actually a very big BTC exchange the cloud is a small part of it's business.    Hashnest no question it is legit.

He does not like using hardware as he never shares info of HW or say what company provided it.  He just uses a payout... that is not proof of hardware.  And it in no proves people ROI'ed as we don't know what they spent.  
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December 15, 2015, 09:26:05 PM
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Same old same old from GermanGiant/SpanishSoldier/RussianRaibow accusing me of having an agenda of promoting Bit-X simply because I actively assist newbies to recognise that most Cloud Mining operations are actually just ponzi/fractional mining scams.

Trouble is GG/SS/RR keeps forgetting that I have already commented to his weak accusation that as far as I'm concerned Bit-X could indeed be fractional mining as they only have a specific amount of PH/s provably purchased.

I don't give a shit what you think, scammer, I'd sooner tell all users to avoid cloud mining like the fucking plague.
I'm sure we wont see that day anytime soon while you'll be engaged in bashing Bit-X. Why ? Because that would stop your pay packet. Cheesy

Still doesn't change the fact that your criminal operation of cloudmining.website is a fraudulent scam. Don't think I didn't notice, by the way, that the 'bitcoinblackfriday' dot info scam copy of the dot com legit site had fraudulently-represented clone copies of legit services it was linking to but, and here's the funny part, cloudmining.website was linked to with no alteration whatsoever. It's almost as if the operators of the cloning fraud had an interest in promoting your fraudulent scam, while ripping off anybody who was clicking through to other services.
Both 'bitcoinblackfriday' .com & .info showed the offer by CMW. They also listed the correct website of Genesis Mining without any alterations. Does it mean CMW, Genesis Mining, bitcoinblackfriday.com & bitcoinblackfriday.info are run by same people ? Cool

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December 16, 2015, 08:43:26 AM
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I'm sure we wont see that day anytime soon while you'll be engaged in bashing Bit-X. Why ? Because that would stop your pay packet. Cheesy

:rolleys: You are so full of it GG/SS/RR, evidence or shut the fuck up. Seriously, all you've got is to claim I'm in the pay of Bit-X because I'm nailing your scam operations and not theirs, even though I am more than happy to tell everyone to avoid ALL cloud mining operations, including Bit-X because, until there is live proof of total market sold versus proven total hashrate owned, there is a risk of fractional mining which invariably has to collapse after a time.

Both 'bitcoinblackfriday' .com & .info showed the offer by CMW. They also listed the correct website of Genesis Mining without any alterations. Does it mean CMW, Genesis Mining, bitcoinblackfriday.com & bitcoinblackfriday.info are run by same people ? Cool

Fallacious reasoning. In any event, whether your scam is part of their scam is part of a shared scam, it is not unusual to see your operation connected with one.

So, how's the 'mining' going over at cm.w central? Still no proof for it yet? Still quoting the longevity of your scam for 'evidence' of it not being a scam? Because, in that case, Bernie Madoff was *totally* innocent.


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December 20, 2015, 11:21:35 AM
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:rolleys: You are so full of it GG/SS/RR, evidence or shut the fuck up.
LoLz... you r asking for evidence ? You, who does not need any evidence of having enough hash power from Bit-X or former Hashie, AM hash etc., but asks for all the evidence from Bitcoin Club Mining, CMW, Scrypt.cc etc. ? Cheesy

Seriously, all you've got is to claim I'm in the pay of Bit-X because I'm nailing your scam operations and not theirs, even though I am more than happy to tell everyone to avoid ALL cloud mining operations, including Bit-X because, until there is live proof of total market sold versus proven total hashrate owned, there is a risk of fractional mining which invariably has to collapse after a time.
Quote it and keep posting in all Bit-X threads and stop CMW and alike with your garbage.

Fallacious reasoning. In any event, whether your scam is part of their scam is part of a shared scam, it is not unusual to see your operation connected with one.
Your imagination needs no boundary Roll Eyes

So, how's the 'mining' going over at cm.w central? Still no proof for it yet? Still quoting the longevity of your scam for 'evidence' of it not being a scam? Because, in that case, Bernie Madoff was *totally* innocent.
My investment is distributed among multiple miners like CMW, Eobot, Bitcoin Club Mining etc and they are doing pretty well. I only lost in Cex.io. Undecided
By the way, who is Bernie guy ? Your half brother or a crime partner ?
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December 20, 2015, 12:07:37 PM
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My investment is distributed among multiple miners like CMW, Eobot, Bitcoin Club Mining etc and they are doing pretty well.

Hey, what a quality portfolio!  Cheesy

Why not put some into Hourlymine.com and Bitminer.eu as well? They meet all your criteria of absolutely no proof of mining and crazy cheap hashrate, then you'll have a Royal Flush of Shit.  Grin
I'm sure your friend with the scam monitor site could be persuaded to list them as "Paying" if they send him a few sats.

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December 21, 2015, 12:13:42 PM
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whats your think about zeushash ? i just invest some bits thier now i'm getting  1$ / month
do you advise me to invest more BTC thier? or u can tell me which company good for mining ?

no, invest only in bit-x or hashnest at this point, the rest might be scammer, maybe they pay you at first, only to gaina  little trust but then they will scam you some way

by increasing fee, by suspending your hash etc...

bit x is great but its not like all others are scammer there are also some other old cloud mining website like one you can see in my signature they are old and paying .

if you can get profit from cloud mining or not its depends on you how you handle it

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December 21, 2015, 12:30:37 PM
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bit x is great but its not like all others are scammer there are also some other old cloud mining website like one you can see in my signature they are old and paying .

if you can get profit from cloud mining or not its depends on you how you handle it

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The operation you advertise in your signature is a ponzi-based scam. They are not mining, they are not trusted, they are not transparent.


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As much as i know, cm isn't that profitable unless you invest big. Try minuteBTC.



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December 21, 2015, 05:00:54 PM
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Try minuteBTC.

Why would anyone want to do that?  Huh Roll Eyes

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December 23, 2015, 08:03:15 PM
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As much as i know, cm isn't that profitable unless you invest big. Try minuteBTC.

I dont think there are many cloud mining websites like CMW, which has paid consistently for so long.
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