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November 16, 2014, 01:49:25 PM |
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A year ago there was talk about a side-chain, Zerocoin (?) - what happened to it? There's been a lot of hyping of a a Dark Wallet - but not much lately. Are the devs on the right track or has the project been abandoned? And there's of course the altcoins. Darkcoin, Kryptonite, Monero - do any of these really have anything to offer, or are they just premine pump-n-dump? Should we just conclude that Bitcoin is pseudonymous - and accept it for what it is  |
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hamiltino
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November 16, 2014, 01:52:40 PM
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CryptoNote is the best anon tech atm. Use it.
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BitCoinDream
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November 16, 2014, 01:58:30 PM |
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A year ago there was talk about a side-chain, Zerocoin (?) - what happened to it? There's been a lot of hyping of a a Dark Wallet - but not much lately. Are the devs on the right track or has the project been abandoned? And there's of course the altcoins. Darkcoin, Kryptonite, Monero - do any of these really have anything to offer, or are they just premine pump-n-dump? Should we just conclude that Bitcoin is pseudonymous - and accept it for what it is Cant say much about side chain & alt coins, but Dark Wallet is just getting stronger than ever. Here is the latest release => https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=848088.0. The only wrong part here is that Amir Taaki & Cody Wilson get the media glare all for the wrong reason. |
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bornil267645
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November 16, 2014, 02:31:00 PM |
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I am not seeing that much of a difference in the anon. of BTC. it's just got more publicity that's all.
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OliverCR
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November 16, 2014, 03:26:43 PM |
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A year ago there was talk about a side-chain, Zerocoin (?) - what happened to it? There's been a lot of hyping of a a Dark Wallet - but not much lately. Are the devs on the right track or has the project been abandoned? And there's of course the altcoins. Darkcoin, Kryptonite, Monero - do any of these really have anything to offer, or are they just premine pump-n-dump? Should we just conclude that Bitcoin is pseudonymous - and accept it for what it is Government can accept BitCoin due to the pseudo-anonymity. The will ban all anon Coin... "terrorism", etc.  |
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BillyBobZorton
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November 16, 2014, 03:28:34 PM |
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Monero offers true anonimity. The rest of coins are mental masturbation.
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Sythyn
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November 16, 2014, 05:16:50 PM |
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Should we just conclude that Bitcoin is pseudonymous - and accept it for what it is Yes. For the vast majority of users it will not be possible for an attacker to determine that you are the person conducting a specific transaction as most users will send only small amounts of bitcoin which are more difficult to trace |
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uvt9
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November 16, 2014, 08:31:16 PM |
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Isn't Dark Wallet using a centralized model of coin mixing (i heard CoinJoin technique) ?
Darkcoin is basically CoinJoin, but the developer claims that it's improved CoinJoin.
Monero offers higher level of untraceability due to nature of CryptoNote protocol which is completely different from Bitcoin protocol. However this tech is still in very early stage of development.
Zerocoin is the most advanced technology for untraceability and privacy. However it's impractical because of ridiculous high tx size. It's successor, Zerocash (still in development) solve the transaction size problem but create another problem (can't be implemented in a trustless manner).
I've never heard about Kryptonite.
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El Emperador
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November 16, 2014, 08:36:54 PM |
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Monero offers true anonimity.
Honestly I don't know this coin very well... can you explain better why Monero offers anonimity? What are its main features? |
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inBitweTrust
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November 16, 2014, 08:54:10 PM |
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Should we just conclude that Bitcoin is pseudonymous - and accept it for what it is Sure, Bitcoin will always remain pseudonymous. The pseudonym identifies a holder(public address), but do not disclose their true names (that is, legal identities). |
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onemorebtc
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November 16, 2014, 09:09:38 PM |
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A year ago there was talk about a side-chain, Zerocoin (?) - what happened to it? There's been a lot of hyping of a a Dark Wallet - but not much lately. Are the devs on the right track or has the project been abandoned? And there's of course the altcoins. Darkcoin, Kryptonite, Monero - do any of these really have anything to offer, or are they just premine pump-n-dump? Should we just conclude that Bitcoin is pseudonymous - and accept it for what it is Cant say much about side chain & alt coins, but Dark Wallet is just getting stronger than ever. Here is the latest release => https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=848088.0. The only wrong part here is that Amir Taaki & Cody Wilson get the media glare all for the wrong reason. the only wrong is that Amir Taki is involved in it.. i wont ever touch anything from that scammer ever again |
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inBitweTrust
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November 16, 2014, 10:06:20 PM |
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the only wrong is that Amir Taki is involved in it.. i wont ever touch anything from that scammer ever again
Did he personally defraud you or was he just working for a company that defrauded you? |
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onemorebtc
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November 16, 2014, 10:11:07 PM |
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the only wrong is that Amir Taki is involved in it.. i wont ever touch anything from that scammer ever again
Did he personally defraud you or was he just working for a company that defrauded you? he published bitcoinica source code which contained a password which lead to the second theft of the remaing bitcoinica funds... (btw he was not allowed to publish it and he wasnt the owner; just an employer) i've lost much ;( |
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inBitweTrust
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November 16, 2014, 10:21:50 PM |
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he published bitcoinica source code which contained a password which lead to the second theft of the remaing bitcoinica funds... (btw he was not allowed to publish it and he wasnt the owner; just an employer)
i've lost much ;(
Hmmm... ok, sorry about your loss. IMHO that would qualify him has making a mistake or possibly being irresponsible. As he is a large open source advocate I can see him wanting to open up all code to the community. |
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onemorebtc
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November 16, 2014, 10:26:00 PM |
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he published bitcoinica source code which contained a password which lead to the second theft of the remaing bitcoinica funds... (btw he was not allowed to publish it and he wasnt the owner; just an employer)
i've lost much ;(
Hmmm... ok, sorry about your loss. IMHO that would qualify him has making a mistake or possibly being irresponsible. As he is a large open source advocate I can see him wanting to open up all code to the community. i know that my feelings about him are a little bit irrational. but if you deal with money (i'd work for a bank as programmer a few years ago - currency risk analyses) you have to be careful what you do... btw. that incident was the reason why gavin has thrown him off the bitcoin security mailing list - i dont know if he has access by now. |
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TinaK
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November 17, 2014, 03:07:47 AM |
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Darkcoin had been almostly crashed
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Piston Honda
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November 17, 2014, 03:57:35 AM |
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market focus chaging
many scam dev/coins involving claiming anon when they were BS
actual GOOD anon coins not "making it yet"
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$ADK ~ watch & learn...
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November 17, 2014, 05:17:44 AM |
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CryptoNote is the best anon tech atm. Use it.
This is true, been using it for a while now. |
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thew3apon
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November 17, 2014, 05:26:51 AM |
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Should we just conclude that Bitcoin is pseudonymous - and accept it for what it is Sure, Bitcoin will always remain pseudonymous. The pseudonym identifies a holder(public address), but do not disclose their true names (that is, legal identities). The volume of bitcoin transactions is high enough so that it is possible to use a mixer/tumbler to make it difficult to link the source of any transaction and as a result it is not possible to know for sure that any public address can be associated with transactions associated with such public address |
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