How can the U.S. fix Detroit?

[Wilikon]

Detroit need millions of dollars to fix it up. Not gonna happen anytime soon.

Unless........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zR3fgoEarg

http://zworlddetroit.com/  (Will never happen, but...)

[freedomno1]

That above part made me think they could resell some Detroit neighborhoods
Make them into movie sets and skateparks
And have stuff blowing up instead of decaying to turn a profit  

Hollywood could always use a few extra sets for whats not animated.

[Balthazar]

Nationalization of all secured & unsecured debt, city infrastructure is only a first step on this way.

[Lethn]

Nationalization of all secured & unsecured debt, city infrastructure is only a first step on this way.

Government debt and borrowing is what got them into this mess in the first place, that's just a temporary measure that won't solve anything, if I could change the way government worked I would make it illegal for any government employee to take on debt in the name of the taxpayer.

[2dogs]

Privitize - like in Snow Crash.

[Snail2]

Nationalization of all secured & unsecured debt, city infrastructure is only a first step on this way.

Turning it to Detroit Test Site would be more cost effective. Nevada seems to be too remote place .

(I do apologize for the malicious ideas, but when I was 13 yo back in the happy(?) commie days in the school I've got the task to read the Wheels from Arthur Hailey and write an essay about the exploitation of the working class in the modern capitalist industry, and since then I hate that city and dislike AH as well . )

[evok3d]

They have no intention or desire to fix it. A lot more places in U.S. will turn out the same. I think they are reaching the end of their plan for that place.

If by miracle the war does stop (99.99% sure it wont anytime soon) - then maybe there is hope.

As Tupac (R.I.P) said:

"It's not the way I wanna live, my ni&#@ it's how it is...."

[Elwar]

Learn from it.

[BADecker]

We all know Detroit is the butt of all city jokes in the U.S. The place is in utter disrepair, the city is huge compared to the taxes it receives--so naturally bad things started to happen. Business and economic growth don't exactly thrive in a place declared by the FBI as the murder capital of the U.S. So in your opinion, what can fix Detroit? Other than Robocop of course.

Stop voting for the democrats.

Cuz everyone knows we're a few republicans away from Utopia?  

Nobody equated the GOP with Utopia.  

Can you name one city controlled by Republicans for 50 years that is as big a shithole as Detroit?  

No, you can't.  So please take your asinine strawman and shove it.

People would much rather live in Orange County than Detroit.  And it's not just because of the weather, as demonstrated by deep red Idaho and Montana's relative prosperity and much higher quality of life.

You need to grow up and face the indisputable fact that the Democrat Oligarch's Free Shit Army has occupied Detroit and completely ruined it.

Again, the way to fix Detroit is to start from scratch. In order: Drop all taxes; Require an armed populace when not on their own personal property; Get rid of the police and most of the laws that limit people from starting and running a business, including new construction laws.

After Detroit gets back up to speed, re-start the taxes... in a small way at first. Gradually move in the controls as before.

Of course, expect the same thing to happen all over again. But at least you have the solution, now.

[Eisenhower34]

Nationalization of all secured & unsecured debt, city infrastructure is only a first step on this way.

Government debt and borrowing is what got them into this mess in the first place, that's just a temporary measure that won't solve anything, if I could change the way government worked I would make it illegal for any government employee to take on debt in the name of the taxpayer.

I am not sure about detroit specifically however in order for most local governments to issue new debt a referendum must be voted on and approved by the taxpayers. The problem with this is that there is nothing that would stop the taxpayer from voting for such debt and then leaving the locality in which the tax dollars would be used to service/pay for the debt

[Lethn]

Nationalization of all secured & unsecured debt, city infrastructure is only a first step on this way.

Government debt and borrowing is what got them into this mess in the first place, that's just a temporary measure that won't solve anything, if I could change the way government worked I would make it illegal for any government employee to take on debt in the name of the taxpayer.

I am not sure about detroit specifically however in order for most local governments to issue new debt a referendum must be voted on and approved by the taxpayers. The problem with this is that there is nothing that would stop the taxpayer from voting for such debt and then leaving the locality in which the tax dollars would be used to service/pay for the debt

That's my point regardless, just make it completely illegal, if they're going to pay for it they're going to have to do it honestly through taxation, the only reason people vote for it is because they know their children are going to have to instead, the pricks, only on this planet do parents and grandparents think it's totally fine for them to not have to pay anything and their children should just because they had the good fortune to be born here.

[TaunSew]

If I recall these $1 homes come with a catch:  there's decades of taxes levied on these abandoned homes and nobody is going to pay $50K in unpaid taxes when there is cheaper real estate out there.

[majakn]

sell it to Chinese
 

[BADecker]

sell it to Chinese
 

But only if they take it with them.   

[TaunSew]

sell it to Chinese
 

But only if they take it with them.    

Yes just like Bitcoin.  Buy it low and when the Chinese come in you'll be rich!  

http://youtu.be/2B_uusKGG0U?t=38s

[BADecker]

sell it to Chinese
 

But only if they take it with them.    

Yes just like Bitcoin.  Buy it low and when the Chinese come in you'll be rich!  

http://youtu.be/2B_uusKGG0U?t=38s

But only if you sell it high, before the Chinese get out!   

[Eisenhower34]

Nationalization of all secured & unsecured debt, city infrastructure is only a first step on this way.

Government debt and borrowing is what got them into this mess in the first place, that's just a temporary measure that won't solve anything, if I could change the way government worked I would make it illegal for any government employee to take on debt in the name of the taxpayer.

I am not sure about detroit specifically however in order for most local governments to issue new debt a referendum must be voted on and approved by the taxpayers. The problem with this is that there is nothing that would stop the taxpayer from voting for such debt and then leaving the locality in which the tax dollars would be used to service/pay for the debt

That's my point regardless, just make it completely illegal, if they're going to pay for it they're going to have to do it honestly through taxation, the only reason people vote for it is because they know their children are going to have to instead, the pricks, only on this planet do parents and grandparents think it's totally fine for them to not have to pay anything and their children should just because they had the good fortune to be born here.

There are some legit reasons for cities to to borrow money secured by future tax revenue. The problem is that cities will sometimes spend this borrowed money inefficiently and politicians will often not be held accountable for doing so.

[BADecker]

Nationalization of all secured & unsecured debt, city infrastructure is only a first step on this way.

Government debt and borrowing is what got them into this mess in the first place, that's just a temporary measure that won't solve anything, if I could change the way government worked I would make it illegal for any government employee to take on debt in the name of the taxpayer.

I am not sure about detroit specifically however in order for most local governments to issue new debt a referendum must be voted on and approved by the taxpayers. The problem with this is that there is nothing that would stop the taxpayer from voting for such debt and then leaving the locality in which the tax dollars would be used to service/pay for the debt

That's my point regardless, just make it completely illegal, if they're going to pay for it they're going to have to do it honestly through taxation, the only reason people vote for it is because they know their children are going to have to instead, the pricks, only on this planet do parents and grandparents think it's totally fine for them to not have to pay anything and their children should just because they had the good fortune to be born here.

There are some legit reasons for cities to to borrow money secured by future tax revenue. The problem is that cities will sometimes spend this borrowed money inefficiently and politicians will often not be held accountable for doing so.

Public library is fun at times. I relish the though of stopping by there once in awhile. When I get there, I suddenly realize, what in the world am I doing in a stupid place like this? The point? All taxes are stealing from the people.

You want public library? You pay. You want police protection? You pay. I don't want them and a whole bunch of other things and regulations? I don't pay. Get your hand out of my pocket. I'll donate when I think it is a worthy cause.

If I need socializing, I'll get over to the bar or to church, where they operate on donations... or you don't get very far in.

[jaysabi]

We all know Detroit is the butt of all city jokes in the U.S. The place is in utter disrepair, the city is huge compared to the taxes it receives--so naturally bad things started to happen. Business and economic growth don't exactly thrive in a place declared by the FBI as the murder capital of the U.S. So in your opinion, what can fix Detroit? Other than Robocop of course.

Stop voting for the democrats.

Cuz everyone knows we're a few republicans away from Utopia? 

I don't know about that. I know the democrats and the unions had a free ride for their ultimate Utopia for the past 50 years. It was called Detroit. We can all see the result. It is basic History 101.

I think trying to pin the failure of Detroit singularly on the Democrats is a case of over-simplification. There were far more factors that lead to the downfall of Detroit than the party in power, or the role of unions. (Two groups I am not fans of, btw... I'm not defending them.)

[gogxmagog]

doesnt look like the goverment is going to do anything. People are though. Kids with not much money but drive and ability are going into detroit and getting dirt cheap property which they fix up and then people with more money see it and want it. A cycle of gentrification we have seen time and again.

I was just wondering about neighborhoods that are totally without infrastructure in detroit. If I have no water or power or fire department supplied do I still have to pay taxes? My guess is yes, because govt.=pigs, but if these people have no amenities usually paid by taxes, why bother?

USA wants tyhier people to do all the dirty work, unpaid labour, interns etc. but they still want to gouge them for the tax. no wonder that country is crumbling.