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November 19, 2014, 08:57:59 PM |
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again people are missing the point entirely.
freedom=no permission
now put that description into all your analogies of true freedom and you will see what i mean.
rights are not a freedom.. rights are a reminder of SOME of your freedoms. for instance the right to remain silent. or the right to free speach
it is not something the government has given you. if you want to stay silent, or talk then its your god damned own mouth... you dont need other peoples permission to tell you what to do with YOUR mouth. you can talk or you can stay quiet.
just because the government remind you of what your biologically capable of doing, does not make them the authority over it.
freedom = no permission. its as simple as that
no one can tell me or stop me from doing what the hell i like with bitcoins, thus bitcoins is financial freedom.
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November 19, 2014, 10:18:47 PM |
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no one can tell me or stop me from doing what the hell i like with bitcoins, thus bitcoins is financial freedom.
I expressly forbid you from sending any to the address in my sig ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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November 19, 2014, 10:35:49 PM |
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Please, stop and think for a moment as this question is raised to brainstorm 'your' definition of "financial freedom" rather than accepting something actively propagated by organization and people with vested interest.
Freedom has nothing to do with law/crime.
LOL! Law is circumference and what happends beyond that is crime and freedom forms core of that circle and you say it has nothing to do. Confused! Wait. Isn't government a group of people? Isn't defining freedom as the centre of a circle of law simply "accepting something actively propogated by organization and people with vested interest."?
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November 20, 2014, 04:56:39 AM Last edit: November 20, 2014, 05:46:31 AM by fdylstyx |
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Having enough to do what I desire and leave a smiling, satoshiless corpse.
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November 20, 2014, 05:37:17 AM |
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It's about not having to submit personal info to be a part of a global market.
That seems like definition borne after Bitcoin revolution.
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He's Nick Sazbo from Washington. I've my answer. Or Hal? :O
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November 20, 2014, 06:02:31 AM Last edit: November 20, 2014, 06:21:53 AM by franky1 |
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ok i just went through some dictionaries and google searches of what people deem to be freedom. and now i will point out what others think
"freedom" is different than "free" in regards to a free market, free choice free expression. many seem to believe that a freedom is a privilege given by authority of a society.
if a freedom is truely meant to be free. then a government cannot take your freedom away from you (prison) thus freedom should be separated from the term 'being free' because governments CAN take your freedom
so the term financial freedom is in their eyes an act/policy/rule 'allowing' and giving permission for people to do certain things with their finance. where as a free market or 'free use of finance' has no authority or rule.
though i still prefer to think of financial freedom as having no permission
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November 20, 2014, 04:06:32 PM |
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Having enough to do what I desire and leave a smiling, satoshiless corpse. It may be tough to spend the last satoshi dust in your wallet before you die. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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Flashman
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November 20, 2014, 09:08:23 PM |
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All but 2, need one on each eye for the ferryman... he's gone crypto now.
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November 21, 2014, 02:43:10 AM |
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I know one thing that is not financial freedom, the 16th ammendment
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November 21, 2014, 02:52:08 AM |
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Well "Financial Freedom" can mean a lot of things, it all depends on the context.
Personal financial freedom is having enough money to support the lifestyle you want for your entire life.
Financial freedom could aso mean having choices. Use banks or bitcoin to send money, for instance.
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November 21, 2014, 02:30:44 PM |
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Personal financial freedom is having enough money to support the lifestyle you want for your entire life.
BTW there's been recent articles around to say that "money buys happiness, but only up to about 80,000 USD p/a", so we could presume that that means, you get enough to "be free" and do a lot of fulfilling things at 80K plus, and while you can do it with more bells and whistles on plusher carpets at much more than 80k, the core experience/satisfaction doesn't increase much, or that you don't get much "freer".
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November 21, 2014, 05:06:56 PM |
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I know one thing that is not financial freedom, the 16th ammendment
Taxing income is bad enough. What is annoying is that the leeches of society also want to start taxing wealth.
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November 21, 2014, 10:28:06 PM |
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Personal financial freedom is having enough money to support the lifestyle you want for your entire life.
BTW there's been recent articles around to say that "money buys happiness, but only up to about 80,000 USD p/a", so we could presume that that means, you get enough to "be free" and do a lot of fulfilling things at 80K plus, and while you can do it with more bells and whistles on plusher carpets at much more than 80k, the core experience/satisfaction doesn't increase much, or that you don't get much "freer". I like your answer ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Maybe one of these days I get to experience 80k in my checking account haha
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Monica80
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November 21, 2014, 10:49:21 PM |
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I no longer shop at Walmart...
Even when they sell play stations at $90?
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Monica80
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November 21, 2014, 10:53:23 PM |
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I no longer shop at Walmart...
Even when they sell play stations at $90? Even then. Wow haha So Target? I love Target...
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November 21, 2014, 11:08:24 PM |
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Oh you mean Hotels for Dog's are just too much? (sarcasm)
I'm with you. The lesser of a negative impact to earth and others the better.
I did buy an iPhone 6 when it came out... am I evil?
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November 21, 2014, 11:26:24 PM |
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I did buy an iPhone 6 when it came out... am I evil?
Yes. lol Ok, maybe not evil...but a colossal douche-ette, yes. Apple is so lame. Their marketing is enough to make me want to huff gasoline until I die. Pretentious much? Lol well I respect your point of view... why am I a pretentious douche-ette? Should I get a flip phone? Or that would turn me into a über Hypster-ette
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November 22, 2014, 01:54:07 AM |
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Lol well I respect your point of view...
why am I a pretentious douche-ette?
Should I get a flip phone? Or that would turn me into a über Hypster-ette
Do we actually have a female on here? WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING TO BITCOIN? lol You cute? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) And that is why there are no women on these forums hahaha... why do I need to be cute? so, what kind of phone do you have?
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November 22, 2014, 01:58:31 AM |
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Contrary to popular American belief...little brown kids in far away places are more important than your ugly family dog...you should act like it.
Source? I'm aware that Target Corporation was once under fire for sourcing cotton from Uzbekistan (a state which uses slavery to harvest cotton), an issue it's since taken steps to address. I'm not finding anything similar concerning Target and Bangladesh. Contrary to popular American belief...little brown kids in far away places are more important than your ugly family dog...you should act like it.
Importance is subjective. An American with a dog may well care more for it than for some unknown child of a distant land. This preference would be apparent, for example, in their spending more money on the health and comfort of the pet than on the same for the child. This is a common ethical position and is no less valid than your own.
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November 22, 2014, 02:21:48 AM |
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I'm aware that Target Corporation was once under fire for sourcing cotton from Uzbekistan (a state which uses slavery to harvest cotton), an issue it's since taken steps to address. I'm not finding anything similar concerning Target and Bangladesh. Thanks for the info... anything and anyone involved in consumism and capitalism will be involved in some sort of malign actions.
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