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November 21, 2014, 05:14:58 PM
Last edit: November 23, 2014, 08:30:03 PM by ThePayPalist
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As in the subject I am looking to purchase PayPal credit paying in BTC or maybe other payment processors like Skrill or Neteller.

My general conditions:

Minimum per trade: 150 USD

Price: Bitstamp

My fees for taking the chargeback risk and cashing you out of PayPal start at 20% going down for bigger volumes.

1 working day withholding.

Escrow accepted at buyers expense either via Tomatocage or ther reputable escrow.

PM if interested. I log in once maybe twice a day so please do not expect instant answers.

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November 21, 2014, 06:46:12 PM
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From what I've read, this is really risky for you. Paypal can be charged back for like 180 days.
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November 21, 2014, 08:52:26 PM
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From what I've read, this is really risky for you. Paypal can be charged back for like 180 days.

I know how to manage that risk.
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November 22, 2014, 08:58:46 AM
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Can you accept moneypaks?

As the subject of the thread clearly states I accept PayPal.

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November 23, 2014, 06:49:23 AM
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From what I've read, this is really risky for you. Paypal can be charged back for like 180 days.

The longest time anybody can charge-back anything any ware is 60 days. Show me any ware in PayPal policy that they accept charge back within half a year.
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November 23, 2014, 06:53:58 AM
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From what I've read, this is really risky for you. Paypal can be charged back for like 180 days.

The longest time anybody can charge-back anything any ware is 60 days. Show me any ware in PayPal policy that they accept charge back within half a year.

https://www.paypal.com/webapps/mpp/ua/upcoming-policies-full

It became officially effective as of 18th November 2014

"Users will be able to open a Dispute within 180 Days (with the exception of buyers in Latin America which must open a Dispute within 45 Days) of the date the Users sent the payment."
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November 23, 2014, 10:34:43 AM
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Sorry guys but I think you should spend more time reading and studying PP's legal documents instead of babbling in my thread about a topic you clearly only know superficially.
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November 23, 2014, 11:47:35 AM
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If you remove your holding time I will buy some BTC off you.
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November 23, 2014, 01:10:54 PM
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If you remove your holding time I will buy some BTC off you.


Unfortunately that withholding period is a key component of the chargeback protection scheme.
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November 23, 2014, 01:15:24 PM
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If you remove your holding time I will buy some BTC off you.


Unfortunately that withholding period is a key component of the chargeback protection scheme.

Or it just gives you enough time to transfer the funds to an alternate account or buy things.

1 day hold time will not prevent chargebacks one bit so I think this is just to give you time to "cash out" the paypal.

The only way to protect from chargebacks would be to hold for 180 days.

I advise all buyers to use an escrow with this user.
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November 23, 2014, 01:28:46 PM
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Or it just gives you enough time to transfer the funds to an alternate account or buy things.


I knew you would say that. As a matter of fact once funds are in you paypal account you can transfer them to a second account or "buy things" as you say within minutes. All you need is a withholding of some minutes not one day.


1 day hold time will not prevent chargebacks one bit so I think this is just to give you time to "cash out" the paypal.


You are right, nothing prevents a chargeback. The idea is not to prevent it but to know how to fight it back an win it.



The only way to protect from chargebacks would be to hold for 180 days.


That's only partially true. American Express accepts chargebacks for 1 full year so if your buyer paid you with AMEX you could feel the pain for a longer period of time.

I think that instead of trying to trade here I will sell consulting services to people that have been scammed via PP reversals.

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November 23, 2014, 03:18:57 PM
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1 working day withholding.
You should use escrow and have the escrow withhold the bitcoin to the buyer for one day.

If you are not willing to use escrow then you are doing nothing more then attempting to scam. It is not guaranteed that paypal will approve the chargeback if a claim is filed.

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November 23, 2014, 04:07:03 PM
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ThePayPalist, just PM'd you with an offer to pre-load an escrow address Smiley

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November 23, 2014, 07:45:34 PM
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Hash: SHA512

ThePayPalist, you can shut these trolls up by simply pre-loading an escrow address. I have created one for you, if you'd like to use it. The initial amount isn't important; fund it with any amount you want to sell.

Escrow for ThePayPalist: 1NvcJNaFACaU7sFgRMT4CjWfZhnuJ5PN5L

Once any buyer sees that this address has been funded (https://blockchain.info/address/1NvcJNaFACaU7sFgRMT4CjWfZhnuJ5PN5L), they're free to send you whatever fiat you agree upon via PayPal, in accordance with the the rules established in your first post. Also, if you don't feel comfortable with me escrowing this deal, that's not a problem since there are a few other trusted members listed in Service Announcements who can perform this for you as well.

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November 23, 2014, 07:46:56 PM
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^^ ThePayPalist can not verify my previous post. Can anybody else verify it? It verifies for me just fine, FWIW.

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November 23, 2014, 08:22:22 PM
Last edit: November 23, 2014, 08:39:07 PM by ThePayPalist
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^^ ThePayPalist can not verify my previous post. Can anybody else verify it? It verifies for me just fine, FWIW.

Verifies for me just fine, too.
Appears he is just trying to dodge you.  Undecided

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@segvec: you are really an irritating guy. I've noticed that you have a tendency to post in other traders threads and you have even been insulted for that. I will not insult you but corteoulsy invite you to mind your own business. Stop spamming my thread insinuating I am a dishonest person with your silly remarks and emoticons.

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November 23, 2014, 08:42:21 PM
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^^ ThePayPalist can not verify my previous post. Can anybody else verify it? It verifies for me just fine, FWIW.

Verifies for me just fine, too.
Appears he is just trying to dodge you.  Undecided

https://anonfiles.com/file/10b3ec26e3bd6cef61d8b51864508db3

@segvec: you are really an irritating guy. I've noticed that you have a tendency to post in other traders threads and you have even been insulted for that. I will not insult you but corteoulsy invite you to mind your own business. Stop spamming my thread insinuating I am a dishonest person with your silly remarks and emoticons.



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I am not spamming your thread.

Fund the escrow.

I'm done here.
Good luck to everyone who is fixing to get scammed by this bozo.

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November 23, 2014, 08:45:16 PM
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I am not spamming your thread.

Fund the escrow.

I'm done here.
Good luck to everyone who is fixing to get scammed by this bozo.

why should I fund an escrow account without any offers created by a guy whose signature I cannot verify you idiot?
Who is scamming who here?

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November 23, 2014, 10:06:50 PM
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I am not familiar with the pgp key program that you are using however it looks like you might not be including the entire message. In order to properly verify if a pgp signature matches you will need to copy everything from "-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----" up until "-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----" in order to check a signature.

I can say that I checked the signature and it checked out for me.

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November 24, 2014, 02:12:33 AM
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Use an escrow if you are only trying to have a safe and secure deal. There's nothing more to it
If you deny using an escrow something is obviously up.

Good luck.

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