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November 22, 2014, 12:15:26 PM
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Anyone know who has been buying XRP and why?  The price has been on quite a tear lately.
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November 22, 2014, 01:27:26 PM
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Because have a new exchange better than Justcoin will launche a few days.
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November 22, 2014, 01:42:34 PM
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Anyone know who has been buying XRP and why?  The price has been on quite a tear lately.

Why wouldn't it be going up? Soon cryptsy will have full integration inside your ripple wallet so you can trade anything, Soon banks will integrate and you can send currency anywhere in under 5 seconds for whatever fee you choose, as of now my fee for any transaction is 0.001 XRP.

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November 22, 2014, 05:43:26 PM
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Bump
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November 22, 2014, 05:49:09 PM
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Perhaps it's because banks are starting to use the ripple network. These include two US banks that have recently signed up, and Fidor bank in Germany. Also a team from the Royal Bank of Scotland just won Deloitte Digital #GoneHacking capital markets hackathon by using the Ripple network.

The team at RBS used the open-sourced payments and remittance network from Ripple Labs to add various crypto-currencies onto the FXMicropay service - those included bitcoin, litecoin and Ripple Labs' own ripples (XRP)

http://www.finextra.com/news/fullstory.aspx?newsitemid=26704&topic=execution
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November 23, 2014, 05:31:18 AM
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Because Ripple is massively undervalued and investors became aware of it.
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November 23, 2014, 06:20:23 AM
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its because ripple is doing a very good job lately and a lot of good news came out. they found a us bank who starts to use ripple and rabobank from the netherlands is also testing with it.

xrp was in a downtrend a long time, and now things are really looking positive

 
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November 23, 2014, 06:59:18 AM
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Huge interest from banks!!
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November 23, 2014, 07:27:00 PM
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Because pump, then...
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November 24, 2014, 12:58:12 AM
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never seen a pump and dump?
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November 24, 2014, 06:17:01 AM
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Anyone know who has been buying XRP and why?  The price has been on quite a tear lately.

just like question why people buying litecoin or bitcoindark

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November 25, 2014, 04:11:45 AM
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capital large from investor
only it shit coin centralized , do not touch this !

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Ripple can be thought as enterprise version of bitcoin, but even if you think that the price is fake - well, how many altcoins don't have "fake" price and people still profit from investing in them?

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November 26, 2014, 09:49:20 PM
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Two days ago Dogecoinball made fun of Ripple, and in the last frame Ripple pleads "Please KILL ME!!!". Today it's falling apart. Coincidence? I think not!
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November 26, 2014, 10:16:17 PM
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Major banks are starting to use XRP. This doesn't drive up demand, but it brings in a lot of speculators. They also hold most of the supply creating an artificial scarcity.






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November 27, 2014, 06:09:01 AM
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Simple Ripple is #2 on coinmarketcap

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November 27, 2014, 06:20:47 AM
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Ripple is a very well put together software.  It only serves one purpose and one only though, which is trading between tokens of value.  As far as that goes, it so super sweet.  When more people use it the exchange rates will be extremely tight, only take a few seconds to be finalized and in your own personal wallet, and with a transaction fee that is negligible. 

That said, the only real reason a person needs to use XRP is to pay fees.  And right now for a couple of bucks, you can get more than enough XRP to pay all your transaction fees for the rest of your life.  So, there really isn't a reason for the price to be going up so high other than pump.  People think of Ripple like a coin like Bitcoin, and it just simply isn't that.  It is more of just a service and XRP isn't meant to be a store of value or be used as a currency the way people think about other coins, but instead as an anti-spam fee. 

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November 27, 2014, 06:28:27 AM
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So XRP will either succeed with the pump or fail and join the graveyard of altcoins.

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November 27, 2014, 08:38:38 AM
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capital large from investor
only it shit coin centralized , do not touch this !

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Ripple can be thought as enterprise version of bitcoin, but even if you think that the price is fake - well, how many altcoins don't have "fake" price and people still profit from investing in them?

ripple 100% premined = scam
yes, people allow that to happen

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Last edit: November 27, 2014, 08:54:04 AM by hypostatization
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Ripple is a very well put together software.  It only serves one purpose and one only though, which is trading between tokens of value.  As far as that goes, it so super sweet.  When more people use it the exchange rates will be extremely tight, only take a few seconds to be finalized and in your own personal wallet, and with a transaction fee that is negligible.  

That said, the only real reason a person needs to use XRP is to pay fees.  And right now for a couple of bucks, you can get more than enough XRP to pay all your transaction fees for the rest of your life.  So, there really isn't a reason for the price to be going up so high other than pump.  People think of Ripple like a coin like Bitcoin, and it just simply isn't that.  It is more of just a service and XRP isn't meant to be a store of value or be used as a currency the way people think about other coins, but instead as an anti-spam fee.  

XRP goes beyond anti-spam. It acts as a bridge/vehicle currency and has zero counterparty risk. Bitcoin and most alts are also notable for their absence of counterparty risk.

In order to understand Ripple more deeply, let's imagine that the Bitcoin protocol was extended to include:

  • Ability for all users to issue currencies from individual wallets
  • Ability for all users to exchange issued currencies and Bitcoin via a built-in distributed exchange

Bitcoin gains new potential utility. Let's assume that users on our network have issued the following currencies: LTC, DOGE, JPY, CNY, DRK---and users want the ability to exchange any issued currency for any other issued currency, as such:

  • LTC <---> DOGE
  • LTC <---> JPY
  • LTC <---> CNY
  • LTC <---> DRK
  • DOGE <---> JPY
  • DOGE <---> CNY
  • DOGE <---> DRK
  • JPY <---> CNY
  • JPY <---> DRK
  • CNY <---> DRK

10 markets are needed to support 5 coins. It all sounds simple enough. However, as the number of coins increases, the problem expands.

CoinsMarkets
510
1045
25300
501225
1004950
21122155

In the final row, marked in red, I have taken the number of active BTC markets on Cryptsy. 211 is the number of actual currencies. 22155 markets would be needed to allow any currency to be traded against any other. Beyond simply having those markets enabled, they would also all need liquidity/volume to be meaningful. Complexity arises.

Bitcoin can be used to solve for that complexity, in this scenario, if used as a bridge/vehicle currency in the distributed exchange system. Doing so would allow us to generate all 22155 markets on demand, while needing only 1 actual market for each currency (211 total). Each issued currency would be traded against Bitcoin.

In our earlier example with 5 coins, end users would still see these markets:

  • LTC <---> DOGE
  • LTC <---> JPY
  • LTC <---> CNY
  • LTC <---> DRK
  • DOGE <---> JPY
  • DOGE <---> CNY
  • DOGE <---> DRK
  • JPY <---> CNY
  • JPY <---> DRK
  • CNY <---> DRK

In reality, they would work like this under the hood:

  • LTC <---> BTC <---> DOGE
  • LTC <---> BTC <---> JPY
  • LTC <---> BTC <---> CNY
  • LTC <---> BTC <---> DRK
  • DOGE <---> BTC <---> JPY
  • DOGE <---> BTC <---> CNY
  • DOGE <---> BTC <---> DRK
  • JPY <---> BTC <---> CNY
  • JPY <---> BTC <---> DRK
  • CNY <---> BTC <---> DRK

Requiring the existence of and liquidity within solely these markets:

  • LTC <---> BTC
  • DOGE <---> BTC
  • JPY <---> BTC
  • CNY <---> BTC
  • DRK <---> BTC

Expanding 211 markets to 22155 is a cool little trick. Bitcoin is essential to making it work, in this scenario, and is well suited to this task due to its absence of counterparty risk. All other currencies are issued from individual wallets, and therefore entail greater risk.

If you hold Bitcoin on the Bitcoin network, then you have certainty it is yours. Behold the beauty of Bitcoin and zero counterparty risk. If you hold fiat in anything other than your hands, then good luck. An issued representation of JPY on the network may not be redeemable. It may be issued by a gateway, family member, bank, exchange, or even application that you trust---but all of those things are subject to faults. In order to minimize risk, you can choose to exchange your JPY for BTC. Bitcoin is a great store of value in this scenario, again, due to its absence of counterparty risk.

Imagine if market makers, traders, FX services, banks, gateways, card services, and payments providers were all using the system described above. Liquidity. Volume. 5 second international cross-currency payments.



XRP exists to deliver this functionality on the Ripple network.

And this is a sliver of the broader protocol functionality.

Learn more here.

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November 27, 2014, 03:24:29 PM
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Ripple is a very well put together software.  It only serves one purpose and one only though, which is trading between tokens of value.  As far as that goes, it so super sweet.  When more people use it the exchange rates will be extremely tight, only take a few seconds to be finalized and in your own personal wallet, and with a transaction fee that is negligible.  

That said, the only real reason a person needs to use XRP is to pay fees.  And right now for a couple of bucks, you can get more than enough XRP to pay all your transaction fees for the rest of your life.  So, there really isn't a reason for the price to be going up so high other than pump.  People think of Ripple like a coin like Bitcoin, and it just simply isn't that.  It is more of just a service and XRP isn't meant to be a store of value or be used as a currency the way people think about other coins, but instead as an anti-spam fee.  

XRP goes beyond anti-spam. It acts as a bridge/vehicle currency and has zero counterparty risk. Bitcoin and most alts are also notable for their absence of counterparty risk.

In order to understand Ripple more deeply, let's imagine that the Bitcoin protocol was extended to include:

  • Ability for all users to issue currencies from individual wallets
  • Ability for all users to exchange issued currencies and Bitcoin via a built-in distributed exchange

Bitcoin gains new potential utility. Let's assume that users on our network have issued the following currencies: LTC, DOGE, JPY, CNY, DRK---and users want the ability to exchange any issued currency for any other issued currency, as such:

  • LTC <---> DOGE
  • LTC <---> JPY
  • LTC <---> CNY
  • LTC <---> DRK
  • DOGE <---> JPY
  • DOGE <---> CNY
  • DOGE <---> DRK
  • JPY <---> CNY
  • JPY <---> DRK
  • CNY <---> DRK

10 markets are needed to support 5 coins. It all sounds simple enough. However, as the number of coins increases, the problem expands.

CoinsMarkets
510
1045
25300
501225
1004950
21122155

In the final row, marked in red, I have taken the number of active BTC markets on Cryptsy. 211 is the number of actual currencies. 22155 markets would be needed to allow any currency to be traded against any other. Beyond simply having those markets enabled, they would also all need liquidity/volume to be meaningful. Complexity arises.

Bitcoin can be used to solve for that complexity, in this scenario, if used as a bridge/vehicle currency in the distributed exchange system. Doing so would allow us to generate all 22155 markets on demand, while needing only 1 actual market for each currency (211 total). Each issued currency would be traded against Bitcoin.

In our earlier example with 5 coins, end users would still see these markets:

  • LTC <---> DOGE
  • LTC <---> JPY
  • LTC <---> CNY
  • LTC <---> DRK
  • DOGE <---> JPY
  • DOGE <---> CNY
  • DOGE <---> DRK
  • JPY <---> CNY
  • JPY <---> DRK
  • CNY <---> DRK

In reality, they would work like this under the hood:

  • LTC <---> BTC <---> DOGE
  • LTC <---> BTC <---> JPY
  • LTC <---> BTC <---> CNY
  • LTC <---> BTC <---> DRK
  • DOGE <---> BTC <---> JPY
  • DOGE <---> BTC <---> CNY
  • DOGE <---> BTC <---> DRK
  • JPY <---> BTC <---> CNY
  • JPY <---> BTC <---> DRK
  • CNY <---> BTC <---> DRK

Requiring the existence of and liquidity within solely these markets:

  • LTC <---> BTC
  • DOGE <---> BTC
  • JPY <---> BTC
  • CNY <---> BTC
  • DRK <---> BTC

Expanding 211 markets to 22155 is a cool little trick. Bitcoin is essential to making it work, in this scenario, and is well suited to this task due to its absence of counterparty risk. All other currencies are issued from individual wallets, and therefore entail greater risk.

If you hold Bitcoin on the Bitcoin network, then you have certainty it is yours. Behold the beauty of Bitcoin and zero counterparty risk. If you hold fiat in anything other than your hands, then good luck. An issued representation of JPY on the network may not be redeemable. It may be issued by a gateway, family member, bank, exchange, or even application that you trust---but all of those things are subject to faults. In order to minimize risk, you can choose to exchange your JPY for BTC. Bitcoin is a great store of value in this scenario, again, due to its absence of counterparty risk.

Imagine if market makers, traders, FX services, banks, gateways, card services, and payments providers were all using the system described above. Liquidity. Volume. 5 second international cross-currency payments.



XRP exists to deliver this functionality on the Ripple network.

And this is a sliver of the broader protocol functionality.

Learn more here.


Wow what an outstanding post, this is the future.

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