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November 22, 2014, 11:08:15 PM
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SuchDiceMuchWow.com - Low stakes Dogecoin Dice!

Provably fair with only a .98% house edge. 

Try it for free with our dogecoin faucet.

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November 22, 2014, 11:29:42 PM
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Good looking site. Will try it when i get the time!
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November 22, 2014, 11:32:39 PM
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How is this site fair when I can't give a client seed?
You can determine which number I roll without me noticing it.
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November 23, 2014, 12:10:53 AM
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I have found some kind of bug.
Look at this:


I tried to martingale with an increase of 102%
My problems is the multiplication. It doesn't multiply correctly and after a win, it doesn't go back to the base bet.
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November 23, 2014, 03:06:47 AM
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Looks fine to me, just confusing because the bets aren't shown in the right order.

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November 23, 2014, 03:09:31 AM
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Silly site...

CoinDice

But interesting design Cheesy
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November 23, 2014, 03:33:41 AM
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nice site.. but its better if you improve the design, many sites in common

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November 23, 2014, 05:04:25 AM
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nice site.. but its better if you improve the design, many sites in common
I am personally a fan on this UI. It was similar to the dicebit.co and dicelit.co which were both a lot of fun to play on.....until they starting cheating.

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November 23, 2014, 09:25:42 PM
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How is this site fair when I can't give a client seed?
You can determine which number I roll without me noticing it.

If you click on "fair" on the top bar, it gives you a server seed, so no, I cant know what bets you are placing.

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November 23, 2014, 09:59:25 PM
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How is this site fair when I can't give a client seed?
You can determine which number I roll without me noticing it.

If you click on "fair" on the top bar, it gives you a server seed, so no, I cant know what bets you are placing.
That's not what I said.
I said that you can cheat. You can give me any number and I wouldn't know if it was fair or not.
Have you ever taken a look at the provably fair pages on e.g. primedice and bitdice?
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November 23, 2014, 11:24:44 PM
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How is this site fair when I can't give a client seed?
You can determine which number I roll without me noticing it.
That's not what I said.
I said that you can cheat. You can give me any number and I wouldn't know if it was fair or not.
Have you ever taken a look at the provably fair pages on e.g. primedice and bitdice?
If you click on "fair" on the top bar, it gives you a server seed, so no, I cant know what bets you are placing.

Client seeds are randomized.  The seeds can be verified with any javascript verifier.   You can use the script available at primedice's FAQ page.

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November 24, 2014, 05:53:33 AM
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How is this site fair when I can't give a client seed?
You can determine which number I roll without me noticing it.
That's not what I said.
I said that you can cheat. You can give me any number and I wouldn't know if it was fair or not.
Have you ever taken a look at the provably fair pages on e.g. primedice and bitdice?
If you click on "fair" on the top bar, it gives you a server seed, so no, I cant know what bets you are placing.

Client seeds are randomized.  The seeds can be verified with any javascript verifier.   You can use the script available at primedice's FAQ page.
You don't really get me, do you?
Since there is no I input from me, I cannot know is the number was fair or not.
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November 24, 2014, 06:26:41 AM
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How is this site fair when I can't give a client seed?
You can determine which number I roll without me noticing it.
That's not what I said.
I said that you can cheat. You can give me any number and I wouldn't know if it was fair or not.
Have you ever taken a look at the provably fair pages on e.g. primedice and bitdice?
If you click on "fair" on the top bar, it gives you a server seed, so no, I cant know what bets you are placing.

Client seeds are randomized.  The seeds can be verified with any javascript verifier.   You can use the script available at primedice's FAQ page.
You don't really get me, do you?
Since there is no I input from me, I cannot know is the number was fair or not.

It's client side generated, not server side.   It uses a JS getrandomvalues string.   Are you just arguing for the sake of arguing?   

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November 24, 2014, 04:40:02 PM
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How is this site fair when I can't give a client seed?
You can determine which number I roll without me noticing it.
That's not what I said.
I said that you can cheat. You can give me any number and I wouldn't know if it was fair or not.
Have you ever taken a look at the provably fair pages on e.g. primedice and bitdice?
If you click on "fair" on the top bar, it gives you a server seed, so no, I cant know what bets you are placing.

Client seeds are randomized.  The seeds can be verified with any javascript verifier.   You can use the script available at primedice's FAQ page.
You don't really get me, do you?
Since there is no I input from me, I cannot know is the number was fair or not.

It's client side generated, not server side.   It uses a JS getrandomvalues string.   Are you just arguing for the sake of arguing?   

I am arguing to make others aware that the site isn't provably fair.
How can one site be fair without an input from the user?
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November 24, 2014, 06:44:07 PM
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How is this site fair when I can't give a client seed?
You can determine which number I roll without me noticing it.
That's not what I said.
I said that you can cheat. You can give me any number and I wouldn't know if it was fair or not.
Have you ever taken a look at the provably fair pages on e.g. primedice and bitdice?
If you click on "fair" on the top bar, it gives you a server seed, so no, I cant know what bets you are placing.

Client seeds are randomized.  The seeds can be verified with any javascript verifier.   You can use the script available at primedice's FAQ page.
You don't really get me, do you?
Since there is no I input from me, I cannot know is the number was fair or not.

It's client side generated, not server side.   It uses a JS getrandomvalues string.   Are you just arguing for the sake of arguing?   

I am arguing to make others aware that the site isn't provably fair.
How can one site be fair without an input from the user?

Thats fine but your argument is wrong.    The client seed is client side generated; ie by your browser.   What you are talking about is one method and what I am doing is another.   Both methods are used pretty widely.

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November 24, 2014, 07:01:57 PM
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Well, you are the one who tells us. How can we verify that it rolled numbers are indeed fair?

Both methods are used pretty widely.

You are wrong about that. All well known (trusted) websites use a user and server seed. These seeds combined determine the roll.
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