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November 22, 2014, 11:09:25 PM
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Why does Satoshi remain anonymous?

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November 22, 2014, 11:10:57 PM
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Why does Satoshi remain anonymous?

Um, because he wants to?  What's it matter?

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November 22, 2014, 11:15:10 PM
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... because he's (she's - they are) smart.

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November 22, 2014, 11:15:28 PM
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For the troll value, seems to work great.

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November 22, 2014, 11:15:37 PM
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A world full of people got rich and went broke playing with his toy. I would steer clear, too. Imagine bitching out god because silver tanked Cheesy

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November 22, 2014, 11:16:11 PM
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He most likely wants to remain anonymous for 2 reasons: His security and so we can focus on the protocol and not him.

This is what states do to individuals who have upset the status quo but haven't done anything illegal:

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/

Those who deny these unethical and corrupt routine behaviors are delusional.

Satoshi and the rest of the Cypherpunk movement is what created bitcoin and they certainly are highly distrustful of governments, justifiably so.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cypherpunk

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November 22, 2014, 11:17:33 PM
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Why does Satoshi remain anonymous?

Imagine having a stack of 50 BTC paper wallets lying around, combined worth millions of dollars.
Going public would put these funds in great risk.

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November 23, 2014, 12:20:22 AM
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Why does Satoshi remain anonymous?

Imagine having a stack of 50 BTC paper wallets lying around, combined worth millions of dollars.
Going public would put these funds in great risk.

I highly doubt Satoshi is a single person anyway. If he can't back his own technology to be able to store wealth safely, What chances do we have for a mass adoption?

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November 23, 2014, 12:27:43 AM
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Because he doesn't exist

It was a think tank legend created most likely by NSA
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November 23, 2014, 12:35:04 AM
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Why does Satoshi remain anonymous?

Imagine having a stack of 50 BTC paper wallets lying around, combined worth millions of dollars.
Going public would put these funds in great risk.

I highly doubt Satoshi is a single person anyway. If he can't back his own technology to be able to store wealth safely, What chances do we have for a mass adoption?

Doesn't really matter how well your private keys is encrypted if you have a 45 pointed to your head.

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November 23, 2014, 12:36:30 AM
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Maybe he doesn't want or need the extra money?

Maybe he has enough to survive on for the rest of his life and is watching his creation unfold?

Maybe he does not care about being branded a genius or being famous?

Maybe he has destroyed the keys to his fortune so that the first blocks will never be spent?

Not everyone wants to live a spiritually vapid life filled with luxuries they don't need.

An idea or a legacy can be far more important to some people than getting rich.

Maybe he has set up a time delayed post that will identify himself to the world after he's dead.

Any thoughts?
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November 23, 2014, 12:41:55 AM
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He's what they call a legend, a made up persona for an intelligence org.

Come on

Nakamoto means Central in Japanese

Satoshi is connected to wisdom or Intelligence in Japanese

So CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE is his legend (fake name) which means it's not the CIA

That's why he got turned off when the CIA threat manifested a while back

The NSA or MI6 or Mossad or whatever intelligence org created the white paper shut down the legend Satoshi

If he was real he would have been outed by now
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November 23, 2014, 12:48:30 AM
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his life would be in danger if he weren't anonymous
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November 23, 2014, 01:27:32 AM
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Why does Satoshi remain anonymous?

Because he vanished with over one million Bitcoins that he mined while controlling the lion's share of the network hashrate. He's super intelligent and would prefer to spend his fortune one day without the risk of taxation or prosecution. FYI: I have spoken to him once. Cheesy
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November 23, 2014, 02:32:06 AM
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Why does Satoshi remain anonymous?

He'll be a dead famous guy pretty quickly if it's out in the open. You cannot personally praise, nor target someone that doesn't have a identity.

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November 23, 2014, 02:34:48 AM
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Why does Satoshi remain anonymous?

I think because he has trillion dollars worth bitcoin and on which he don't wanna pay tax..  Wink
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November 23, 2014, 02:35:59 AM
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What if satoshi is a really really smart minor, whos wants to stay anonymous because well, he's underage. As soon as he gets of age, he will reveal himself to the public.

Just a theory lol, probably not true
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November 23, 2014, 03:31:12 AM
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The first credit to Bitcoin in the white paper was a citation for Wei Dai’s “bmoney”.

The first paragraph of “bmoney”:

“I am fascinated by Tim May’s crypto-anarchy. Unlike the communities traditionally associated with the word “anarchy”, in a crypto-anarchy the government is not temporarily destroyed but permanently forbidden and permanently unnecessary. It’s a community where the threat of violence is impotent because violence is impossible, and violence is impossible because its participants cannot be linked to their true names or physical locations”. ~Wei Dai

*Below is a Tim May quote which explains why a system like Bitcoin would have to be created and launched open-sourced and anonymously:(THIS IS THE REASON)

Tim May: “Anyone contemplating building such a system, or entity, or cybercorporation, should think long and hard about the wisdom of ever having an identifiable nexus of attack. Money must be collected in untraceable ways. This is what I meant about it being time to rethink the theory of the corporation.”

"Where once a corporation existed to both protect the rights of shareholders (against lawsuits and partners having to pay for losses) and to enable the group participation of many workers, corporations for the things Cypherpunks think are interesting is just a bad idea. And given the growing trend toward trying to prosecute the V.P of Yahoo-Europe because some bit of Nazi history was sold to some German citizen, etc., corporations are becoming a liability in cyberspace”.

"The answer is to vanish into cyberspace. Not an easy task, maybe, given the state of today’s tools, but the long term trend".

Note: You can't give the government someone to accuse of being crazy or accuse of having connections to anti-government or terrorist groups.
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The first credit to Bitcoin in the white paper was a citation for Wei Dai’s “bmoney”.

The first paragraph of “bmoney”:

“I am fascinated by Tim May’s crypto-anarchy. Unlike the communities traditionally associated with the word “anarchy”, in a crypto-anarchy the government is not temporarily destroyed but permanently forbidden and permanently unnecessary. It’s a community where the threat of violence is impotent because violence is impossible, and violence is impossible because its participants cannot be linked to their true names or physical locations”. ~Wei Dai

*Below is a Tim May quote which explains why a system like Bitcoin would have to be created and launched open-sourced and anonymously:(THIS IS THE REASON)

Tim May: “Anyone contemplating building such a system, or entity, or cybercorporation, should think long and hard about the wisdom of ever having an identifiable nexus of attack. Money must be collected in untraceable ways. This is what I meant about it being time to rethink the theory of the corporation.”

"Where once a corporation existed to both protect the rights of shareholders (against lawsuits and partners having to pay for losses) and to enable the group participation of many workers, corporations for the things Cypherpunks think are interesting is just a bad idea. And given the growing trend toward trying to prosecute the V.P of Yahoo-Europe because some bit of Nazi history was sold to some German citizen, etc., corporations are becoming a liability in cyberspace”.

"The answer is to vanish into cyberspace. Not an easy task, maybe, given the state of today’s tools, but the long term trend".

Note: You can't give the government someone to accuse of being crazy or accuse of having connections to anti-government or terrorist groups.

^ Good Post, Here's more of Tim C. May on the subject....

Tim C. May: "This makes Yahoo, Amazon, EBay the easy targets for lawsuits by foreign governments, lawsuits by PC groups in America, boycotts(which are OK, of course), and even direct actions against corporate officers. How long will it be before corporate offices at EBay are  bombed because birth control stuff is sold on EBay? How long before the President of Amazon is assassinated one night for "allowing" books like "The Satanic Verses" be sold on his system?"

"These three companies are representative of the trend toward a corporation, readily traceable to a physical location, acting as the "marketplace" location. Even more abstractly, Napster only distributed an _indexing_ application and then provided a forum for indices to be published. And yet what has happened with Napster is and was predictable. (If you set up a music pirating system, as seen by others, and paint your name and address on your back, you _will_ be sued. A bunch of us pointed this out at a CP physical meeting in early 2000, when Napster was just starting to become known.)"

"There's a better solution to this "big targets problem": peer-to-peer, a la Gnutella, Mojo, etc. No identifiable nexus of corporate control. Online clearing. Reputation intermediaries. Digital cash (not strictly needed, if N (number of sellers and buyers) is large enough and there is no central clearinghouse which can be sued.)"

"Making the agora disappear into cyberspace, whether by sheer numbers of sellers and buyers (peer-to-peer) or by robust encryption (a la BlackNet) is an important goal."

"The Theory of the Corporation" needs revisiting."

"So, what's the solution?"

"The solution is that the technology clearly exists to allow entities to reside in cyberspace. What is lacking, as always, is the means to collect untraceable digital cash..clearly a bidirectionally untraceable system, "true" digital cash, is needed." ~Tim C. May
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November 23, 2014, 04:38:51 AM
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the guy is worth billions of dollars and kidnappers could easily take him hostage while ransoming him. plus all the media attention would suck, not to mention government agencies that would contact him.
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November 23, 2014, 04:44:17 AM
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Satoshi is waiting for people like me to change their names to Satoshi so they can be Spartacus.

Saying that you don't trust someone because of their behavior is completely valid.
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November 23, 2014, 07:31:00 AM
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Why does Satoshi remain anonymous?

Because he is dead. Otherwise he would have been spending at least some of his 1000000 BTC since his disappearance.

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November 23, 2014, 08:37:25 AM
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there he is:


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November 23, 2014, 09:32:36 AM
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It would be dangerous for both him & his family to reveal his identity.

Any smart man would do the same.

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November 23, 2014, 10:16:16 AM
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It would be dangerous for both him & his family to reveal his identity.

Any smart man would do the same.

Why? Because someone could steal his Bitcoins?

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November 23, 2014, 10:21:54 AM
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Why does Satoshi remain anonymous?

I think because he has trillion dollars worth bitcoin and on which he don't wanna pay tax..  Wink

Actually, the speculators would piss themselves in fear if the satoshi btc has moved. I think he knows very well that it would be the biggest crash if he touched those coins.

If he was motivated by making money, I think he would have cashed out already a long time ago.

Obviously there's a chance that he/she will move it, but I highly doubt that.
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November 23, 2014, 10:30:57 AM
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Actually, the speculators would piss themselves in fear if the satoshi btc has moved.

Are not Satoshis bitcoin adresses unknown (except the first days when Satoshi was likely the only minner)  Huh
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November 23, 2014, 01:23:51 PM
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Why does Satoshi remain anonymous?

I think because he has trillion dollars worth bitcoin and on which he don't wanna pay tax..  Wink

Actually, the speculators would piss themselves in fear if the satoshi btc has moved. I think he knows very well that it would be the biggest crash if he touched those coins.

If he was motivated by making money, I think he would have cashed out already a long time ago.

Obviously there's a chance that he/she will move it, but I highly doubt that.

actually, if he moves the coins off-market, it probably wouldn't even be a huge crash. there would be a whirlwind of speculation and the price would probably go down a bit, but that's probably about it.
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November 23, 2014, 01:44:00 PM
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Actually, the speculators would piss themselves in fear if the satoshi btc has moved.

Are not Satoshis bitcoin adresses unknown (except the first days when Satoshi was likely the only minner)  Huh

Even the first days is a significant amount.
He was mining 7200 BTC per day in the beginning.

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November 23, 2014, 02:18:16 PM
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It would be dangerous for both him & his family to reveal his identity.

Any smart man would do the same.

Why? Because someone could steal his Bitcoins?
That & exploiting information potentially harmful to Bitcoin (as we already know the success of BTC equals the downfall of modern banking).

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November 23, 2014, 02:20:13 PM
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November 23, 2014, 02:48:25 PM
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It would be dangerous for both him & his family to reveal his identity.

Any smart man would do the same.

Why? Because someone could steal his Bitcoins?
That & exploiting information potentially harmful to Bitcoin (as we already know the success of BTC equals the downfall of modern banking).

If he is trying to protect his money by disappearing, why doesn't he spend at least some of it?
Aren't there better ways to protect your wealth? I mean, most of the "smart" rich people doesn't need to disappear and they are still alive.
Which "potentially harmful" information could that be on an open source project?


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November 23, 2014, 03:32:05 PM
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I'm guessing if people really knew satoshi it would be bad for bitcoin because he has personality issues.

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Because he is simply smart, and it really dosen't matter if Bitcoin was made by Goverments it self because they have no control on it  Roll Eyes
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If Satoshi was alive, functional, and had the keys, it appears likely that he would have been constantly dividing, sending, and mixing his coins into randomly sized, multiple, more diverse, and less identifiable accounts.  

That he did not do this suggests that he is either dead, not interested in money (even though he created a currency), lost the keys, or feels an obligation not to debase or discredit the currency by spending the early mining proceeds.

The totality of his actions, even when he was active, suggests that he feels an obligation to the currency that he created.  In other words, perhaps he has integrity, if you can imagine such a thing.
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November 23, 2014, 05:21:52 PM
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From what I read about him:
Satoshi just wasn't a social person. I am pretty sure, he even had some kind of psychosis.
So, he don't want any media attention about him self.

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If Satoshi was alive, functional, and had the keys, it appears likely that he would have been constantly dividing, sending, and mixing his coins into randomly sized, multiple, more diverse, and less identifiable accounts.  

That he did not do this suggests that he is either dead, not interested in money (even though he created a currency), lost the keys, or feels an obligation not to debase or discredit the currency by spending the early mining proceeds.

The totality of his actions, even when he was active, suggests that he feels an obligation to the currency that he created.  In other words, perhaps he has integrity, if you can imagine such a thing.

I strongly disagree with this. If he were to be constantly spending his mining proceeds by creating dummy transactions then every time he were to push a TX to the network then his IP address could potentially be exposed (even if he were to use TOR). Every transaction that he would push would potentially lead to his doxing. As a result he would not want to try to hide his identity by mixing his coins in this way.

My theory is that when he decides to one day decides to spend his bitcoin he will start a mixing service and use his own mixing service to mix his bitcoin. If he was to never spend his mining proceeds then he would have likely destroyed his bitcoin by now in a publicly verifiable way.

Satoshi does not want his identity known because of the attention that it would get him (just look at what happened to the poor guy from the newseek article last winter) and him not being anon would almost guarantee Bitcoin's failure.
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November 23, 2014, 05:41:40 PM
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From what I read about him:
Satoshi just wasn't a social person. I am pretty sure, he even had some kind of psychosis.
So, he don't want any media attention about him self.

I prefer psychosis or transcendence:

http://www.kundaliniawakeningsystems1.com/downloads/kundalini-psychosis-or-transcendence.pdf

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November 23, 2014, 06:42:36 PM
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Why does Satoshi remain anonymous?

I think because he has trillion dollars worth bitcoin and on which he don't wanna pay tax..  Wink

Actually, the speculators would piss themselves in fear if the satoshi btc has moved. I think he knows very well that it would be the biggest crash if he touched those coins.

If he was motivated by making money, I think he would have cashed out already a long time ago.

Obviously there's a chance that he/she will move it, but I highly doubt that.

actually, if he moves the coins off-market, it probably wouldn't even be a huge crash. there would be a whirlwind of speculation and the price would probably go down a bit, but that's probably about it.
I agree that if he were to start to move any bitcoin in any of his known addresses then there would by huge amounts of speculation and that people would put a lot of effort into trying to figure out where his money is going and trying to figure out his identity.

I would say that it could potentially cause at least a short term crash as people might speculate that he is about to sell a portion on exchanges (either directly on an exchange or OTC)

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November 23, 2014, 07:13:06 PM
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From what I read about him:
Satoshi just wasn't a social person. I am pretty sure, he even had some kind of psychosis.

I prefer psychosis or transcendence:

Maybe he's Alan Greenspan's Tyler Durden.

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November 23, 2014, 09:11:27 PM
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I don't even hold the coins someone else has them. So, seriously stop asking why I haven't spent them. I would if I could because I am broker than one should ever admit to. Ask bradlyinDC what he's doing with them.

The psychosis accusations are largely true but I don't look at it that way. If you saw what I saw you wouldn't call it a mental disorder. That book is largely true but incomplete on the whole ordeal and there are metaphysical practices that can ease the tension a situation like this creates. For me, it is largely yoga practice, grounding, getting down with nature, and qi gong. Following a lot of things in this book actually helped to http://biologyofkundalini.com/article.php?story=KundaliniPracticeSkillsList

I actually contacted that author at one point and she has helped me out a lot because the amount of people kundalini active are so few that I guess she doesn't exactly have people beating down her door to talk to her.

Though, at the time someone had come to me on a message board like this and been like hey you come up with this idea what do you think about it. I think it was at a time when we were all charged up about ron paul and looking to make a difference that this really transpired. After the psychosis ordeal and escaping barely with my life I needed to wind down. In addition, things were not going so hot in my love life either and was feeling down and out and really wanted nothing to do with it at the time. Also, I had no idea how many coins they had mined for me or really care to lead anything or be involved in the movement for that matter. My main focus was on feeling better and trying to understand some of the extraordinary circumstances that had happened to me at the time.

I was able to find things that made me feel better emotionally and mentally as well as a lot of good literature. Though, nothing from the western world. Most the ideas were eastern in nature: kundalini yoga and some of these spiritual leaders that had emerged from the east (Gopi Krishna, Paramhansa Yogananda)

Look I'm talking like a conspiratologist, talking about a figment they group, but I really have no idea how the group satoshi nakamoto came about or why they chose it or for that matter who was all involved with the white paper. I do know they wrote the paper based on my recommendation given at the time based on my time with the government as a patent examiner. My line of thinking at the time was to put the idea in the public domain instead of patenting it. That way if someone was to sabotage the currency with more mining power we could roll out another digital currency and start over. This was to prevent someone with more resources from claiming the lions share of the mining power. In addition, though I am not scared of any government entity (though I fervently watch this IRS targetting scandal waiting for justice because I was focused in on that, got audited by the assholes) it was a concern at the time that this whole idea of minting a digital currency could in fact get you in trouble with government forces per se. This was based not really on speculation but hard evidence because at the time you had the Liberty Dollar getting shut down and also why a lot of this came about but a little known gold back digital currency at the time the American Eagle. I became fascinated with the concept of a digital backed gold currency because it is the digital age after all. In addition, I am a holder of physical gold and silver (I know I said I am broke but it's really not much) and I know how hard it is to actually spend your physical holdings into circulation. So, really the idea to mine in an a decentralized manner was  to prevent one entity from essentially running the currency as a whole and actually in the end protect it (again basing this on the liberty dollar, american eagle). So, essentially I was not some seer but could see the line in the sand that the government and fed had drawn about competition.

I am a terrible programmer barely passed my freshman engineering C++ class. I spearheaded the idea but in no way carried out, implemented, or for that matter mined any of the coins. Someone else actually mined them for me.

My influences were largely from the conspiracy movement and a lot of the info that was floating around during the Ron Paul campaign in 08. I was highly influenced by a lot of anarcho capitalists ideas and in fact a lot of my inspiration came from the book Case Against the Fed by Murray Rothbard which, I never in fact read to completion. I liked the money masters a lot, ideas of colonial script, and the greenback during the civil war days. I became convinced essentially this whole debt instrument swap BS that the fed does was all smoke and mirrors. This was based largely by history as there had been instances of people circulating unbacked paper currencies, tally sticks (stuff without intrinsic value per se and it functioning as money). At the time an argument erupted about the intrinsic value phenomenon but again like I said history seemed to prove that wrong. My best guess is if you don't believe me read that book or watch the money mastes. Honestly, I just read a lot and not really books. I'm a message board junkie. I like reading ideas by common folk that may or may not of ever been listened to by anyone else or anybody important for that matter. I surf godlikeproductions mostly for news but there are a whole new sort of crazy people floating around there anymore and I never really post. I use it more of a breaking news site and  I use to follow infowars, rense, the power hour, you name it (GCN network stuff). I use to be an avid listener of Alex Jones but don't really bother much anymore.


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That all must gaze upon them for guidance rather than to search their own hearts and minds for the answers.

The power of life is that it is truly immortal, evanescent, and ever changing with the world.
Living things are composed of simple nodes, they are self-organizing,use energy, they respond to their environment, living things grow and reproduce.

So does Bitcoin,
 It is composed of individual nodes with the entire copy of it's existance inscribed within
It is composed of a network of nodes forming hierarchy that extends far beyond it's code but to the people that use and support it
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I believe it is because Satoshi wants us to evolve to find the true answer, without searching for their blessing.
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I guess paid gov. shills trying to get Satoshi out.
I'm pretty sure that he would be in great danger if he revealed himself. It would be one of those 'suicide' / 'accident' cases again.  Roll Eyes

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I guess paid gov. shills trying to get Satoshi out.
I'm pretty sure that he would be in great danger if he revealed himself. It would be one of those 'suicide' / 'accident' cases again.  Roll Eyes

What do you mean? I just did lol.

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Riiiight, and 100 years ago you would have been Napoleon.

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Riiiight, and 100 years ago you would have been Napoleon.

Explain yourself.

Sorry to disappoint you that I'm not rotting in a gutter somewhere.

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In Japanese, satoshi nakamoto means central intelligence Roll Eyes

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In Japanese, satoshi nakamoto means central intelligence Roll Eyes

Really? I think we need this clarified, what does it actually mean to a Japanese person?

I have heard it said it means, Clever man in a recent article,

I was thinking it was source of wisdom...
and somewhere else I'm sure I've heard other translations.
I think it would clear things up.

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I guess paid gov. shills trying to get Satoshi out.
I'm pretty sure that he would be in great danger if he revealed himself. It would be one of those 'suicide' / 'accident' cases again.  Roll Eyes

This sounds like a very likely outcome.
Stay low, I would, as well.
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Somebody posted this link, but it was deleted. Found it quite an interesting article on topic.
https://www.coindesk.com/dangerous-satoshi-nakamoto/

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I bet it's for he's own safety Cheesy A brilliant man with an eye for details... he has probably thought things through a thousand times. I'd like to see him cash out those bitcoins without attracting attention though Grin He'll be forced into fame in the end Tongue

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I bet it's for he's own safety Cheesy A brilliant man with an eye for details... he has probably thought things through a thousand times. I'd like to see him cash out those bitcoins without attracting attention though Grin He'll be forced into fame in the end Tongue
I don't think, he can cash out without getting attentions. I am pretty sure, there are a lot of people who are watching his addresses.

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By choice

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Aliens.

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from reading a few post here i now doubt satoshi cared abut getting rich but more about changing things in the world he thinks needs to be change.
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Somebody posted this link, but it was deleted. Found it quite an interesting article on topic.
https://www.coindesk.com/dangerous-satoshi-nakamoto/


I do agree that his actions show he's consistent on keeping the coins.
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from reading a few post here i now doubt satoshi cared abut getting rich but more about changing things in the world he thinks needs to be change.

Or maybe he's holding on to the coins to become super rich? Perhaps he will become the worlds first trillionaire and rule the world.
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Probably was working so hard on Bitcoin that he didn't get any sleep, fell asleep at the computer, fell off his computer chair, whacked his head on the floor, got amnesia. His wife, who doesn't have a clue that he was involved with Bitcoin, partially because she is not techy minded, doesn't even realize that her husband in the psyche ward is the guy everyone is looking for.

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from reading a few post here i now doubt satoshi cared abut getting rich but more about changing things in the world he thinks needs to be change.

Or maybe he's holding on to the coins to become super rich? Perhaps he will become the worlds first trillionaire and rule the world.

Sounds like he could make a great bond villain if this happend. I can imagine him sitting in his secret lair on his own island  Cheesy.
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Like I said I do not know why they picked the name for the white paper. I was really only involved on the idea part and brainstorming on the message board with them. I think I was probably out drinking while they were in IRC brainstorming what to do.

The keys are not lost as far as I understand but an individual does have them and tried to give them to me probably in 2011 when I announced I was "leaving the project". This was really just someone tracking me down on another message board during the second Ron Paul campaign. Really me leaving the project was just because of the fact I did not feel well at the time based on some of things  I said in a prior post.

The central intelligence thing through me off too because when I started feeling better I actually had a revival and started getting into bitcoin. This was while I completely forgot that I was the purported inventor of sorts. I was like "wow I don't know if I can trust this thing what if it's these implantable microchips everyone is talking about".

In addition, I did not hide because I was trying to create a mysterious persona but moreso because I was not feeling so hot and did not want involved with anything besides feeling better and my menial job at the time.

Regardless, I think a lot of you will have trouble believing this but if some of the inner circle as well as the holder of the coins (yes it's probably a SHE that holds all the coins) want to support me I will happily give an interview with media. Though, I would prefer it not be some major media outlet. I was thinking Alex Jones would work really good. He'd give me and the holder of the coins (I expect you to be there) ample time to describe how it came into existence and have plenty of time to chat. Also, he already accepts btc at his shop online. In addition, I think his audience is the type of people we need to ease about these central intelligence allegations as potential strong supporters of BTC. Whereas I see a major media outlet asking some lame questions, potentially trying to defame me etc.

Also, SHE has already tried to post here I believe and no one accepted her as knowing me. What just cause she hasn't spent the coins? Get over the coin spending. That will happen when the group is ready and a consensus decision has been made. You know we have not met in person. And the promise to me was that she would hold them and not spend them. Even though I openly gave them to her when I was not feeling good.

I also hope to connect with someone in the legal area to bring contract law to bitcoin. I'm thinking common law though, and I need someone I trust to coach me through what I need (was thinking Jordan Maxwell). It is my one hope as a feature I'd like to see added to blockchain.

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Excellent idea, I think you'll get far more respect and credit from the Alex Jones readership.

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Just to throw some different thinking in the mix... I disagree that Satoshi is anonymous. Satoshi has an identity, a well-known identity. Just because the identity he goes by is not government-approved and stamped does not make it any less valid.

To me, 'anonymous' would mean we don't know who created bitcoin... however, we do know that Satoshi Nakamoto created it.

Merriam-Webster's dictionary says:

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1:  of unknown authorship or origin <an anonymous tip>
2:  not named or identified <an anonymous author> <they wish to remain anonymous>

Neither of those apply to Satoshi, who is named, and who we know authored the bitcoin whitepaper.

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Apart from it being as enigmatic as believing that some dude called Yaweh lit the fuse on the big bang.

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out of all things i have read on satoshi
this one appeared best to me
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/tutorial-satoshi-nakamoto/

though i think he really ain't gonna come out anytime soon , and it's quite good , cos if he starts dumping his coin stacks , i can't even imagine  Lips sealed
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Excellent idea, I think you'll get far more respect and credit from the Alex Jones readership.


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because he like playing hide and seek
he is watching us, the bitcoin community
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Satoshi is my dad, no need to worry guys

Get him to post on here using the account Wink say: "Hello all"!
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Because he doesn't exist

It was a think tank legend created most likely by NSA

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Simple answer: because he wanted to. I'm sure there are many reasons why he wished to remain anon and I think it was wise and forward thinking of him to do so from the start.
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Because he doesn't exist

It was a think tank legend created most likely by NSA

Not all the great things are created / developed in the "almighty" country

I sincerely hope this is true. The US government are often ran by privileged egotists (see the Neo-Cons) and wouldn't have the insight or intelligence to create Bitcoin.

Nakamoto could be a gifted US student, though.
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Somebody posted this link, but it was deleted. Found it quite an interesting article on topic.
https://www.coindesk.com/dangerous-satoshi-nakamoto/

I would seriously doubt that satoshi would attempt to dump all of his coins on the market when he does decide to sell in a way that would crash the price. Doing so would likely cause confidence to be lost in bitcoin
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Simple, ask yourself: What the hell would he gain from going public besides having to live a life like Asagne or Snowden? Not much.
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He doesn't have any reason to come out,

He's just sitting on the balcony, sipping in his coffee mug and reading all the media fuss about him.

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Because he's dead and his estate is tied up in probate until his next of kin's attorneys find his private key hidden in his sock drawer.
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Because he's dead and his estate is tied up in probate until his next of kin's attorneys find his private key hidden in his sock drawer.

They forgot to politely ask him if he could do them a favor and hand out all passwords and private keys before they shot him in the head. After some time of bruteforcing they realized that killing was a bad idea when you want to steal 1 Mil of BTCs.
Give them time and they will adapt (hypnosis, social-engineering etc., keyloggers etc)

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Because you want to know who he is.

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Satoshi should be cryogenized, he must be there once all Bitcoins are mined and reveal itself.
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He just wants his privacy.

Would you post your full name and address right now?

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Because he doesn't want to end up like these two bums...


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June 18, 2015, 04:48:48 AM
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because of the amount of bitcoin he (she or them) has, he is going to be harassed day and night if he reveals his real identity.

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June 18, 2015, 08:15:20 AM
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It adds to the allure of bitcoin... the ever enigmatic Satoshi.
We need legends and myths for our renegade cyberspace currency.
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June 18, 2015, 10:06:21 AM
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because of the amount of bitcoin he (she or them) has, he is going to be harassed day and night if he reveals his real identity.

especially in the future when at some point there will be a global adoption. his wealth would make him a target. i hope he stays anonymous for ever.
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June 18, 2015, 10:19:01 AM
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Ok lets say Satoshi comes out now and is known

People following him about like the Paparazzi asking questions..trying to get dirt from friends and neighbors...asking him pointed questions 'have you always been anti-government' stuff like that...his life would be hell...say he did work in crypto for say NSA could go to jail or some such perhaps on the bitcoin tech or his training that led him to that..his corp job if such would can his ass.......his family could and himself be in danger kidnap for bitcoin...snatch his kid ...whisper xfer 1 million in btc to my phone here in front of you...at the local deli....then kid is out of the car on the street whole thing took like 9 min...easy money

Gov't agencies looking at your past ...IRS for unreported income from past mining at 99c a BTC and your spending of such previously unknown address..you owe capital gains in USA according to 2013 virtual currency guidelines to tax payers.for the diff between what you mined it at 99c vs the say 249 you bought a T.V. for with it (or btc to usd xfer  to that cash)...required subpoenas from your state senate your state house the us senate the us house .....on either what kind of fiend you are ..did you make bitcoin as some of your posts state to destabilize the USA ..in some countries ...death penalty for such stuff perhaps.......and heaven help you if you ever even talked to a bitcoin 1st adopter in chat back in 2009 who even went on silk road 1x ......or actually at one time had a pleasant email with mark k.of mt.gox back in the day

people begging for btc for dying kids (if legit) as a scam if not..you'd need body guards....you'd be mobbed everywhere you went....some countries would assume you were a CIA plant...or other treason from this virtual currency invention

your life would be never your own ever again

look what happened to the guy in Time Magazine with him at one time (since debunked) being Satoshi..he worked for the gov't for a time they started an investigation almost right away on the Time article I think I read for any connections that way.....heaven help you if you got the idea from btc working for gov't or working for a corp even indirectly ..get a lot of lawyers.

so it would be very very bad in this me me me world....shows to me the guy is pretty 'sane' about keeping his identity secret and avoided this circus

and of course the 'john lennon' type assassin that would just want to kill the inventor of bitcoin for the fame of it

sheesh it would be awful imho

 

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June 20, 2015, 12:01:46 AM
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I hope they never catch-up with him until the IRS or whatever tax authority he lives under, if any, starts accepting BTC.

Can you imagine a tax bill of 50m BTC, paid in fiat? That would kill Bitcoin if he had to cash out half of his coins.

Actually: cheap coins. lol. 
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June 20, 2015, 01:19:41 PM
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Because it's his/her choice. Assuming that s/he does exist. Smiley
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June 20, 2015, 02:39:15 PM
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For those asking why satoshi remained anon, probably for the same reason we all are. My username is relevant to why its sometimes good to remain hidden because you don't know who's watching or after you.
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June 20, 2015, 02:44:48 PM
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he is staying anonymous just to make a great number of people search for him. Cheesy
just look at how many topics are on satoshi's real identity and how many people are discussing this matter.

Weak hands have been complaining about missing out ever since bitcoin was $1 and never buy the dip.
Whales are those who keep buying the dip.
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June 20, 2015, 03:03:53 PM
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I wish he wasn't anonymous forever but on the other hand if such is his choice I respect it.

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It wouldn't be safe for him due to the threat of robbery, hacks ,gov,banks etc.  It's better if satoshi stay anonymous
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