BalloonBit.com (OP)
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November 30, 2014, 05:37:04 AM |
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That's really unlucky but at least you can be sure that the site didn't cheat you. Simply verify the rolls by - oh, wait... Scratch that, they refused to make it provably fair. So maybe they did cheat you. Cheat for 0.002 BTC? =) What do you mean about make provably fair? What could I add to my site to prove you that there is no deception?
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Clint
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November 30, 2014, 05:44:13 AM |
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this game is fun and im enjoying it ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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November 30, 2014, 06:10:52 AM |
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What do you mean about make provably fair? What could I add to my site to prove you that there is no deception? provably fairAt least for me, the sound auto plays but the sound icon shows it muted. If I click the icon the sounds becomes muted but the icon shows it as playing. After I win or lose the modal has a z-index issue which show it behind other elements so I can't click it. This breaks the site, since when I hit ESC and the modal closes the site doesn't revert back to the main page, it's stays on the bet page but the buttons fail and the button fail to register. I'm using Chrome Version 39.0.2171.71 m on Win if that helps. Side Note: You don't need to make the z-index so high (2147483649) using 0, 1, 2, 3 etc will make it easier to understand what comes before and after elements.
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BalloonBit.com (OP)
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November 30, 2014, 06:23:57 AM Last edit: November 30, 2014, 01:01:03 PM by BalloonBit.com |
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What do you mean about make provably fair? What could I add to my site to prove you that there is no deception? provably fairAt least for me, the sound auto plays but the sound icon shows it muted. If I click the icon the sounds becomes muted but the icon shows it as playing. After I win or lose the modal has a z-index issue which show it behind other elements so I can't click it. This breaks the site, since when I hit ESC and the modal closes the site doesn't revert back to the main page, it's stays on the bet page but the buttons fail and the button fail to register. I'm using Chrome Version 39.0.2171.71 m on Win if that helps. Side Note: You don't need to make the z-index so high (2147483649) using 0, 1, 2, 3 etc will make it easier to understand what comes before and after elements. Thank you for your post its very helpful for us.
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plock
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November 30, 2014, 06:47:48 AM |
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Thank you for your post its very helpful for me. No problem ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Quick question; are you planing on implementing provably fair? And if so, what is the time frame?
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BalloonBit.com (OP)
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November 30, 2014, 06:57:54 AM Last edit: November 30, 2014, 01:00:15 PM by BalloonBit.com |
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Thank you for your post its very helpful for me. No problem ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Quick question; are you planing on implementing provably fair? And if so, what is the time frame? There is no cheating on our site. If there is an opportunity to prove it, of course I'd like to do it. Time frame is +0 GMT
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BalloonBit.com (OP)
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November 30, 2014, 07:05:36 AM Last edit: November 30, 2014, 01:00:40 PM by BalloonBit.com |
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Thank you for your post its very helpful for me. No problem ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Quick question; are you planing on implementing provably fair? And if so, what is the time frame? Logs page are not adapted for parsing. Would you like us to add special page for parsing?
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BalloonBit.com (OP)
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December 02, 2014, 10:07:49 AM |
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We are adding Provably Fair system to our site today, therefore site will be unavailable for about one hour, so do not worry about that!
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BalloonBit.com (OP)
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December 02, 2014, 07:05:10 PM |
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Provably Fair
We have included a system to provide Provably Fair results, so you'll know each of your wagers are fair and the outcome can not be manipulated.
So how does this work? Each new bet must generate a number from 0 to 100, where 0 means winning x0 and 50 - x2, 100 - x100 etc.
To make it possible for you to verify this number we use the following system: Each user can enter their own Client Seed (See Profile Settings) to be used in the verification so you can add your own personal factor. The client seed is added with the players nonce (first game would be 1 for example), the resulting string is added with the users login. Client seed (lowercase) + nonce + login (lowercase) That result will be user's message, for example ( ex. User balloonbit chooses the client seed - clientseed then begins his first game the results will look like: clientseed1balloonbit)
Every 24 hours our server will generate a Server Seed and 8 numbers from 1 to 128. At the end of 24 hours we will publicly release our Server Seed and the generated numbers so you can verify your results were correct and fair!
The server seed is used as a secret key hashing sha512, and this combined with the user's message gives us a new 128 character hash.
Example Hash: Message = clientseed1balloonbit, Server Seed (Secret Key) = serverseed The resulting Hash: 41bcc41bb248b6e136a66ef6b6a8773edba8677ea50fa1bac42ee10a5cf675a5991c856d5d1c72b eb5a0f851e33ef41e75ed7ed95c60bd83d0565ec538af3338
As well as this hash we select 8 numbers (digits from 1 to 128) and they form a hexadecimal number.
Example of a hexadecimal number: For this example we will use: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8, we take the first 8 characters of the hash and get: 41bcc41b
Afterwards, we convert this number to decimal and then divide it by 101 and the remainder will give us our random number.
Example of random number: hexadecimal number 41bcc41b we convert that to a decimal and get 1090520080 then divide this by 101 and get the remainder of the division 52. This will be our random number and in this case the player may inflate the balloon to 2.04.
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December 02, 2014, 07:47:58 PM |
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I enjoyed the free try, if i had some cash to try on it would be nicer.
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December 02, 2014, 08:54:54 PM |
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The Provably Fair system is good news ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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December 02, 2014, 10:27:28 PM |
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We have included a system to provide Provably Fair results, so you'll know each of your wagers are fair and the outcome can not be manipulated.
That's good news. I just played a couple of free games but didn't see anything about hashes. Do I need to pay to check out the provable fairness? I've tried signing up, but when I click 'submit' on the registration form it very unhelpfully tells me "Error". I've tried picking various different usernames in case someone already registered mine, but that doesn't help. Could you be a little more specific about the "Error"?
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December 03, 2014, 01:47:53 AM |
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We have included a system to provide Provably Fair results, so you'll know each of your wagers are fair and the outcome can not be manipulated.
That's good news. I just played a couple of free games but didn't see anything about hashes. Do I need to pay to check out the provable fairness? I've tried signing up, but when I click 'submit' on the registration form it very unhelpfully tells me "Error". I've tried picking various different usernames in case someone already registered mine, but that doesn't help. Could you be a little more specific about the "Error"? Weird doog, I just tried to sign up and I didn't have a problem. I chose dooglus as the user expecting it not to work so I'm going to send you the details in a pm now, so you can change all the info over ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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BalloonBit.com (OP)
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December 03, 2014, 03:41:12 AM |
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We have included a system to provide Provably Fair results, so you'll know each of your wagers are fair and the outcome can not be manipulated.
That's good news. I just played a couple of free games but didn't see anything about hashes. Do I need to pay to check out the provable fairness? I've tried signing up, but when I click 'submit' on the registration form it very unhelpfully tells me "Error". I've tried picking various different usernames in case someone already registered mine, but that doesn't help. Could you be a little more specific about the "Error"? Are using any third-party programs that that can somehow affect the JavaScript on our site? Error is written only while JavaScript verification are passed, but server verification not, but it's impossible if you do not change our JavaScript.
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December 03, 2014, 03:53:45 AM |
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Great idea! I deposited 0.03 and ill try this out. So much suspense!
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December 03, 2014, 04:31:59 AM |
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why my ballonbit's screen site become darker when I pressed "PICK UP THE WIN" and I can't continue to play it again unless I reloaded it ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2Fvpvi1x.jpg&t=665&c=2lZhkXDjPm1Glg)
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BalloonBit.com (OP)
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December 03, 2014, 04:36:47 AM |
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why my ballonbit's screen site become darker when I pressed "PICK UP THE WIN" and I can't continue to play it again unless I reloaded it ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2Fvpvi1x.jpg&t=665&c=2lZhkXDjPm1Glg) That bug appear in some versions of Google Chrome. We are fixing it. Please specify your Google Chrome version to help us fixing it.
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December 03, 2014, 04:59:41 AM |
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Are using any third-party programs that that can somehow affect the JavaScript on our site? Error is written only while JavaScript verification are passed, but server verification not, but it's impossible if you do not change our JavaScript.
I'm not running anything that is able to affect the JavaScript on your site, no. Could it be that your server verification is stricter than the client verification? The password I tried setting was 9AD#Npj@9L7vKK&VlzaIrDS%Z7X7E5WN - could it be any of the "special characters" that broke things? ... Yes, apparently it's the & in the middle. Setting the password to "abcdefghijklmn&mnopqrstuvwxyz" gives "Error" but removing any of the letters makes it legal. It seems the bug only happens if there are at least 14 characters either side of the ampersand. I can't imagine what you're doing that would cause this to happen. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Edit: now I'm using the 'dooglus' account that Arrogant registered for me. I'm trying to change the password, but each time I go to settings, type the old password once and new password twice, then "submit" it, it tells me "Email has been successfully changed" and doesn't change the password.
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BalloonBit.com (OP)
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December 03, 2014, 05:19:39 AM |
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Are using any third-party programs that that can somehow affect the JavaScript on our site? Error is written only while JavaScript verification are passed, but server verification not, but it's impossible if you do not change our JavaScript.
I'm not running anything that is able to affect the JavaScript on your site, no. Could it be that your server verification is stricter than the client verification? The password I tried setting was 9AD#Npj@9L7vKK&VlzaIrDS%Z7X7E5WN - could it be any of the "special characters" that broke things? ... Yes, apparently it's the & in the middle. Setting the password to "abcdefghijklmn&mnopqrstuvwxyz" gives "Error" but removing any of the letters makes it legal. It seems the bug only happens if there are at least 14 characters either side of the ampersand. I can't imagine what you're doing that would cause this to happen. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Edit: now I'm using the 'dooglus' account that Arrogant registered for me. I'm trying to change the password, but each time I go to settings, type the old password once and new password twice, then "submit" it, it tells me "Email has been successfully changed" and doesn't change the password. I think that we will became truly the best because of you =) Maximum password length is 32 symbols. Try to do not input email, and only old password, and new ones.
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