transactions don't get confirmed

[leen93]

ok, thank you, what do you use? bitcoin core? I'm putting the torrent file in now but it takes a really long time

Yes, I use Bitcoin Core.

It does take a long time the first time you install it.  It also requires a lot of RAM and disk space.

oooh, that's why my laptop wasn't reacting anymore and i needed to restart it? I think I only have 2 GB of RAM. The same as my phone lol

[leen93]

Okay he paid me, transactions

- snip -

Should be confirmed in no longer than 1 hour.

It has been an hour.

None of the transactions has confirmed yet.

Please immediately refund the payment or risk being labeled a thief and a scammer.

indeed, I paid 0.01 + 0.0001 fee to him (can prove the transaction in the blockchain if you want) but not even 1 confirmation yet  

He added low fees. Anyway, it has medium priority, so it will probably confirm soon.

   ~~MZ~~

It doesn't matter if it confirms soon.  The commitment was to confirm within an hour.  This did not occur.

yakuza699 needs to either refund the payment, or he is a scammer and a thief.

Indeed, I really would be happy if it was confirmed, but I paid 4$ for it. He didn't manage it so he should give it back. Before it was also medium priority, so anyone could say i process it within an hour... I sended him a message but he neglects it i think (or he didn't read it yet)

and Danny, you must be the most thrustworthy person on earth, you even ask to get me refunded before I say something 

[Muhammed Zakir]

I don't care what I'm using (just tried the blockchain API and it worked fine), as long as I don't need to download something for weeks it's fine
Maybe I should just give it up, but was pretty sure I could make some money with this but if I have to process them manually it will not be profitable...

IMO you should use a chrome/mozilla Blockchain.info wallet plugin or Mac OS Blockchain.info wallet (if you are using Mac OS) instead of API as when sending tx, signing message etc.. the private key(s) are being synced. So it isn't a good idea.

It doesn't matter if it confirms soon.  The commitment was to confirm within an hour.  This did not occur.

yakuza699 needs to either refund the payment, or he is a scammer and a thief.

Well in that case, you are telling is acceptable but I can't tell he is a scammer or thief but what he did was wrong. The BTC leen93 sent was enough but he didn't do it. I think he added low fees as the amount was higher than 0.01BTC but he didn't check the size.

@leen93 : He is online. Try to PM him about this.

   ~~MZ~~

[leen93]

I don't care what I'm using (just tried the blockchain API and it worked fine), as long as I don't need to download something for weeks it's fine
Maybe I should just give it up, but was pretty sure I could make some money with this but if I have to process them manually it will not be profitable...

IMO you should use a chrome/mozilla Blockchain.info wallet plugin or Mac OS Blockchain.info wallet (if you are using Mac OS) instead of API as when sending tx, signing message etc.. the private key(s) are being synced. So it isn't a good idea.

It doesn't matter if it confirms soon.  The commitment was to confirm within an hour.  This did not occur.

yakuza699 needs to either refund the payment, or he is a scammer and a thief.

Well in that case, you are telling is acceptable but I can't tell he is a scammer or thief but what he did was wrong. The BTC leen93 sent was enough but he didn't do it. I think he added low fees as the amount was higher than 0.01BTC but he didn't check the size.

@leen93 : He is online. Try to PM him about this.

   ~~MZ~~

tx for informing me, already lost more than 90 btc by thiefs (got less than 10 btc left now) so I'll be careful.
just transferred them all back to an exchange with almost 5 mbtc standard fee
already regret making those small payments to a lot of addresses 
Already sended him a PM some time ago, no response...
Gave him a negative trust feedback but will delete it as soon as i get refunded

[leen93]

Another random issue:
How safe is bitfinex?
I have all my btc there right now (mostly in swaps), it earns something but not a lot. What's the chance they go down within a year? How trustworthy are they?

I think I'll sell half of my btc there and give swaps for them (earns pretty good) and take the btc out and put them in a paper wallet, a good idea?

[Muhammed Zakir]

Another random issue:
How safe is bitfinex?
I have all my btc there right now (mostly in swaps), it earns something but not a lot. What's the chance they go down within a year? How trustworthy are they?

I don't think keeping BTC in an exchange is good idea. Just make a paper wallet offline, print it or save it somewhere safe and then delete all the files related to it from computer/mobile. Then withdraw the BTC to the address. You are far more safer than storing in Bitfinex.

   ~~MZ~~

[leen93]

Another random issue:
How safe is bitfinex?
I have all my btc there right now (mostly in swaps), it earns something but not a lot. What's the chance they go down within a year? How trustworthy are they?

I don't think keeping BTC in an exchange is good idea. Just make a paper wallet offline, print it or save it somewhere safe and then delete all the files related to it from computer/mobile. Then withdraw the BTC to the address. You are far more safer than storing in Bitfinex.

   ~~MZ~~

yes, but on bitfinex u earn interest for offering swaps
with btc i agree it's not worth it but with usd u can get around 30% interest a year, as long as the chance they run away with everything is far less than that 30% a year i think it's a good investment?

[yakuza699]

What I did was I re-pushed the tx's on f2pool.com/pushtx I am user 3 and all the tx's where pushed by it. Those transactions will be confirmed in the next f2pool block they own about 30% of the hashing power so they mine a block on average every 30minutes. On my messages I said that those transactions SHOULD be confirmed in under 1hour and not that they WILL be confirmed and I said that I will only return money IF the tx's will be mined by someone other than f2pool and only if the tx's won't appear in the next block. Why did you guys labeled me as a scamer after just few minutes?

Danny did you really fault that I will scam for 0.01btc?

So I am not sure what to do now as the transactions will be mined in the next f2pool block, my guesses that the tx should be mined in under 1hour were wrong and the tx's were not mined by anyone else.So far I don't see any reason why should I return the coins.

[Muhammed Zakir]

yes, but on bitfinex u earn interest for offering swaps
with btc i agree it's not worth it but with usd u can get around 30% interest a year, as long as the chance they run away with everything is far less than that 30% a year i think it's a good investment?

It's your choice. I just want to tell this, Don't invest more than you can afford to lose.

   ~~MZ~~

[yakuza699]

Ok so the transactions were confirmed and actually it was me who lost the coins as I am returning the coins to the OP and the transactions were still confirmed. Please the Danny remove that negative trust now. I am really disappointed about you guys 

[DannyHamilton]

On my messages I said that those transactions SHOULD be confirmed in under 1hour and not that they WILL be confirmed

This is a lie.

See here:

If you will pay me 0.01 I will confirm all of those 10 those transactions faster than one hour, so that is 0.001 per one transaction.

for me that's fine! if you say it before you do it and not just say i did it after it get confirmed automatically

First send the money to my address(in my profile) then I will message you by who it will be mined. If it gets mined by any other miner than I will return you the coins(don't worry I will not steal 0.01)

Oh forgot to mention that after I get the coins and message you the transaction will be confirmed in less than one hour.

[DannyHamilton]

Ok so the transactions were confirmed and actually it was me who lost the coins as I am returning the coins to the OP and the transactions were still confirmed. Please the Danny remove that negative trust now. I am really disappointed about you guys 

And I am very disappointed that you made a commitment to a user and then got angry when you couldn't live up to that commitment.

[yakuza699]

This is a lie.

See here:

If you will pay me 0.01 I will confirm all of those 10 those transactions faster than one hour, so that is 0.001 per one transaction.

for me that's fine! if you say it before you do it and not just say i did it after it get confirmed automatically

First send the money to my address(in my profile) then I will message you by who it will be mined. If it gets mined by any other miner than I will return you the coins(don't worry I will not steal 0.01)

Oh forgot to mention that after I get the coins and message you the transaction will be confirmed in less than one hour.

You and me are half right. On one message I said it will and on second I wrote it should.

Okay he paid me, transactions
66c3bb89e6d15acef0edbd4a7554789e52a9597d49ea22b1030774bdb6769c33
4ed44d8d3a2c8cfef1bdae739fd20cf09b63f9acf930682a02b65ec57279c344
1d39badf5f53a5066dd3a13b319b206bbd6a680a9b031d607bbaee9de0a8d251
9b579d773bd6f6810bf1976a33794e3f451a04d7f98200d3700bdbbe14a8b7ec
75a0fbe416794386d5a7a4e876e2e8d4d0237de46f7361029966883cb277ec94
72397123a772dc7cb0f23fec672ace2218e716f49d9d49923ebbda9f3a72900b
84684c63455178196503e3cd80863c5edb96cdfe2a7943e33e10e6778f2d34c3
94d4041e9225699471a58efd56b3f11f4c990736d4644533c74dc3565c1068d5
37dcacb1c678044b4dfad9930983d5083ab015532350c5a3115c0a1df4e7ace2

Should be confirmed in no longer than 1 hour.

[leen93]

I wouldn't mind if it would be 1 hour and a few minutes but it's still not there, so please transfer the btc back. U said 'will' and not 'should', and even then it would just be misleading. You don't show any good intentions. Up to you if you transfer them back or not but anyways my btc address :
1H2AKTJciwByYTDEDoUzjB7LKH7G4C18Em
But if you don't I'll keep reporting you to persons willing to trade with you. This is a theft and you can't explain it differently because it just is.

[leen93]

This is a lie.

See here:

If you will pay me 0.01 I will confirm all of those 10 those transactions faster than one hour, so that is 0.001 per one transaction.

for me that's fine! if you say it before you do it and not just say i did it after it get confirmed automatically

First send the money to my address(in my profile) then I will message you by who it will be mined. If it gets mined by any other miner than I will return you the coins(don't worry I will not steal 0.01)

Oh forgot to mention that after I get the coins and message you the transaction will be confirmed in less than one hour.

You and me are half right. On one message I said it will and on second I wrote it should.

Okay he paid me, transactions
66c3bb89e6d15acef0edbd4a7554789e52a9597d49ea22b1030774bdb6769c33
4ed44d8d3a2c8cfef1bdae739fd20cf09b63f9acf930682a02b65ec57279c344
1d39badf5f53a5066dd3a13b319b206bbd6a680a9b031d607bbaee9de0a8d251
9b579d773bd6f6810bf1976a33794e3f451a04d7f98200d3700bdbbe14a8b7ec
75a0fbe416794386d5a7a4e876e2e8d4d0237de46f7361029966883cb277ec94
72397123a772dc7cb0f23fec672ace2218e716f49d9d49923ebbda9f3a72900b
84684c63455178196503e3cd80863c5edb96cdfe2a7943e33e10e6778f2d34c3
94d4041e9225699471a58efd56b3f11f4c990736d4644533c74dc3565c1068d5
37dcacb1c678044b4dfad9930983d5083ab015532350c5a3115c0a1df4e7ace2

Should be confirmed in no longer than 1 hour.

Ok, maybe now you can say it will never get confirmed?
That's the 3rd message then and then you said it will never get confirmed?
You said it, I know you had good intentions, just like me. But you failed delivering the service you promised while I did pay for it, so you should pay me back unless you are a thief.

[yakuza699]

I wouldn't mind if it would be 1 hour and a few minutes but it's still not there, so please transfer the btc back. U said 'will' and not 'should', and even then it would just be misleading. You don't show any good intentions. Up to you if you transfer them back or not but anyways my btc address :
1H2AKTJciwByYTDEDoUzjB7LKH7G4C18Em
But if you don't I'll keep reporting you to persons willing to trade with you. This is a theft and you can't explain it differently because it just is.

Transactions confirmed, money returned, Will not help OP ever again.
Tx id https://blockchain.info/tx/42c980342d443ac0c4d775fe1ba8092c3f648c0f6ca28f27c5ecac03bd4e81ad

[DannyHamilton]

You and me are half right. On one message I said it will and on second I wrote it should.

Okay he paid me, transactions
- snip -
Should be confirmed in no longer than 1 hour.

The commitment that you made when negotiating the transaction was that it WILL confirm within an hour.

Then you were paid.

Then AFTER BEING PAID, you changed your mind and stated "should be confirmed in no longer than an hour".

Unless you engaged in a private conversation where there was an agreement to the possibility that it could take more than an hour BEFORE you accepted payment, then clearly the agreement required that the transaction be confirmed within an hour.

[leen93]

You and me are half right. On one message I said it will and on second I wrote it should.

Okay he paid me, transactions
- snip -
Should be confirmed in no longer than 1 hour.

The commitment that you made when negotiating the transaction was that it WILL confirm within an hour.

Then you were paid.

Then AFTER BEING PAID, you changed your mind and stated "should be confirmed in no longer than an hour".

Unless you engaged in a private conversation where there was an agreement to the possibility that it could take more than an hour BEFORE you accepted payment, then clearly the agreement required that the transaction be confirmed within an hour.

no there was no other agreement, i asked his btc address and he sended that and said the transactions should be finished within an hour

[leen93]

I wouldn't mind if it would be 1 hour and a few minutes but it's still not there, so please transfer the btc back. U said 'will' and not 'should', and even then it would just be misleading. You don't show any good intentions. Up to you if you transfer them back or not but anyways my btc address :
1H2AKTJciwByYTDEDoUzjB7LKH7G4C18Em
But if you don't I'll keep reporting you to persons willing to trade with you. This is a theft and you can't explain it differently because it just is.

Transactions confirmed, money returned, Will not help OP ever again.
Tx id https://blockchain.info/tx/42c980342d443ac0c4d775fe1ba8092c3f648c0f6ca28f27c5ecac03bd4e81ad

Thank you!
Pretty silly you don't want to trade with me ever again because you tried to steal from me but I didn't agree with that, don't you think that yourself? I didn't do anything wrong, I paid immediately after u sended ur btc address and that's all I needed to do. U needed to make sure the transactions got confirmed within an hour and you failed.
I thought all hero members would react as adults but I hope you are just an exeption...
If Danny wasn't here to defend me you rpobably would just have stolen my btc...

[lontivero]

Ok so the transactions were confirmed and actually it was me who lost the coins as I am returning the coins to the OP and the transactions were still confirmed. Please the Danny remove that negative trust now. I am really disappointed about you guys 

And I am very disappointed that you made a commitment to a user and then got angry when you couldn't live up to that commitment.

We have a popular saying to describe what happened here, it says something like the following: "who tries to help others always has a bad ending". Sadly, it is true.