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November 27, 2014, 11:28:38 AM
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Thread from 2002

https://groups.google.com/d/topic/uk.finance/-Ko72tv170I/discussion


I probably think it's Satoshi
reddit discussion: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2nicip/found_this_gem_newsgroups_from_2002/

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November 27, 2014, 11:34:26 AM
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FOr some reasons I don't think it's him :p and let's say it's him , did Bitcoin took him over 7 years to develop it ? Shocked (guessing that he started in 2002)

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November 27, 2014, 11:40:29 AM
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Probably just a good pipedream someone had a while back and is likely just circumstantial / coincidental to bitcoin, but I suppose it's possible he later developed the ideas, but without a detailed explanation of the technology behind it I'm sure many people have proposed the idea of a digital peer-to-peer currency before, but it does have the hallmarks of bitcoin. Maybe it took him all this time to come up with a workable solution? Who knows. Interesting anyway.

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November 27, 2014, 12:00:19 PM
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That's amazing.
It could really be him. Maybe just his first thoughts on the subject he made public.
FOr some reasons I don't think it's him :p and let's say it's him , did Bitcoin took him over 7 years to develop it ? Shocked (guessing that he started in 2002)
I don't think, he would work 7 years on it fulltime. That is just a misconception on how an idea develops.
He might have gathered some information on the topic, than forget about it for a year or 2 started thinking about it again, maybe even write some lines of code. Throw them away, have some personal stuff he has to take care of, has stress with his job, randomly found something that he could use, work on the code again, throw it away, and so on ...
After all, who ever Satoshi is, he has a live besides Bitcoin.

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November 27, 2014, 12:02:55 PM
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Probably just a good pipedream someone had a while back and is likely just circumstantial / coincidental to bitcoin, but I suppose it's possible he later developed the ideas, but without a detailed explanation of the technology behind it I'm sure many people have proposed the idea of a digital peer-to-peer currency before, but it does have the hallmarks of bitcoin. Maybe it took him all this time to come up with a workable solution? Who knows. Interesting anyway.


if you read on he seems to have some idea of how it'll work

"Maybe the community can bypass the old powers (countries and governments).
It wouldn't be a revolution, but rather evolution. Slowly a new p2p system
might take over. The current monetary systems were mainly backed with gold
(not anymore now, to my knowledge). Maybe the underlying values of a virtual
peer to peer system could be other scarce resources, relatively easy to
exchange via internet. Examples are: computer processing power, bandwith and
data storage. These resources would make a limited peer to peer money
exchange system possible. Limited to the total real life value of all these
resources. However from that point other resources could back up the virtual
currency..."

...anyways maybe its just coincidence
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November 27, 2014, 12:22:25 PM
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I would somewhat doubt it. I don't think that satoshi would have talked about his idea prior to his whitepaper.

This person probably was trying to piggy back off of paypal which was very new at the time
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November 27, 2014, 12:32:39 PM
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I highly doubt this. He took care about his privacy and things, this would be a mistake.
Also people (including me) have a ton of ideas. This is some coincidence.
I don't think that satoshi would have talked about his idea prior to his whitepaper.
There we go.

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November 27, 2014, 12:39:54 PM
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Why there is no details 'x' is found ? What is the email ID of this 'x' ? I think it can be retrieved from Google groups.

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November 27, 2014, 01:17:21 PM
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I highly doubt this. He took care about his privacy and things, this would be a mistake.
Also people (including me) have a ton of ideas. This is some coincidence.
I don't think that satoshi would have talked about his idea prior to his whitepaper.
There we go.
Do you really believe, that he never talked to anybody about it before he created his pseudo-identity?
That is pretty unlikely.

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November 27, 2014, 01:22:01 PM
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I would somewhat doubt it. I don't think that satoshi would have talked about his idea prior to his whitepaper.

It's easy to say that in retrospect but a whitepaper wouldn't have even entered his mind at the time as his idea seems to be something he was only in the genesis of (if you could even call it that) and thus isn't going to be that concerned about privacy when he hadn't even got a fully working idea, so this seems to be just thinking out loud more than anything serious.

I highly doubt this. He took care about his privacy and things, this would be a mistake.

He took care of his privacy after he had something that was workable and ready to be released years later. And what's the mistake? Everybody is still none the wiser to who he is.

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November 27, 2014, 01:30:08 PM
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I would somewhat doubt it. I don't think that satoshi would have talked about his idea prior to his whitepaper.

It's easy to say that in retrospect but a whitepaper wouldn't have even entered his mind at the time as his idea seems to be something he was only in the genesis of (if you could even call it that) and thus isn't going to be that concerned about privacy when he hadn't even got a fully working idea, so this seems to be just thinking out loud more than anything serious.
I don't think the flaws in paypal and the true need for a trust-less way to send money in a p2p fashion were not apparent in 2002.
I highly doubt this. He took care about his privacy and things, this would be a mistake.

He took care of his privacy after he had something that was workable and ready to be released years later. And what's the mistake? Everybody is still none the wiser to who he is.
It was much more difficult to protect your privacy back then so if that was satoshi then he would likely have leaked a lot of information about himself.
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November 27, 2014, 01:48:36 PM
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I doubt satoshi came out of the womb anonymous and wanting to protect his privacy 100% from an early age. This post was made over five years before bitcoin was released and the 'satoshi' who only had the basis for the idea back then could or would probably be a lot more naive and a lot less security conscious than the older one who would've obviously been far wiser by the time he realised his idea into a fully workable product.

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November 27, 2014, 02:22:22 PM
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People think to see Satoshi everywhere, tomorrow it's in a zoo forum, next day it's in a bike forum, etc.

There were more people who had the intention to think of a new sort way of paying.

Satoshi's Bitcoin is the first new and decentral digital currency that is really in use now.
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November 27, 2014, 02:33:45 PM
Last edit: November 27, 2014, 02:43:46 PM by xxxgoodgirls
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There is a chance this was him, or at least he took insipiration by x's post.
I won't get surprised if it really would have been him, I mean, he is obsessed with privacy,signign as X does make sense.

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November 27, 2014, 02:34:43 PM
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It was much more difficult to protect your privacy back then so if that was satoshi then he would likely have leaked a lot of information about himself.

No it wasn't, it's just that everyone was an idiot about it and thought government tapping of the internet was tinfoil hat.

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November 27, 2014, 02:47:42 PM
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It was much more difficult to protect your privacy back then so if that was satoshi then he would likely have leaked a lot of information about himself.
You're basing this on what exactly?
Even I managed to remove 99% of my 'things' on the internet prior to this year. Do you think that he would have not done the same?

Result of this discussion: media --> Satoshi found, possible sell-off (1M bitcoins) inbound? .. sigh.

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November 27, 2014, 03:05:58 PM
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FOr sure it's not him , he is too smart to let obvious tracks like these . in google ? come on...

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November 27, 2014, 03:09:47 PM
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Idea sounds similiar but im not convinced its Satoshi.
Many got such great ideas, but only one succed.
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November 27, 2014, 03:24:13 PM
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See how they mocked him? Who got the last laugh, though?

EDIT:Lol, see how one person who mocked him is called 'Miner'? Oh, the irony!!!

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November 27, 2014, 03:45:19 PM
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The idea of a peer to peer banking system isn't new, many people had dreamed about it or tried to make it and Satoshi probably wasn't the first one think about it. So there is little chance he could be Satoshi.
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