George Zimmerman arrested for 2nd degree murder for killing Trayvon Martin

[RodeoX]

http://www.kansascity.com/2012/06/12/3655268/zimmermans-wife-charged-with-perjury.html

So Zimmerman lied under oath
His wife lied under oath

Uh .... That's a huge mistake, now all of their statements can be scrutinized.


George Zimmerman "does not properly respect the law or the integrity of the judicial process," Lester wrote.'

Well looks like the judge doesn't like Zimmerman already, nor we should believe anything that liar says.

You don't have to believe him.  The way the law works, the State has to make a case that is believable beyond all reasonable doubt.  Even if the defendant has a track record of similiar crimes, he still gets the benefit of the doubt.  In this case, it looks as if Zimmerman got greedy and lied so he could keep the money.  He may well go to jail for that.  But he still gets the benefit of the doubt on the Trayvon shooting.

Right, this is a different issue. It has nothing to do with lawfully shooting someone who is attempting to kill you.

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[JeffK]

http://www.kansascity.com/2012/06/12/3655268/zimmermans-wife-charged-with-perjury.html

So Zimmerman lied under oath
His wife lied under oath

Uh .... That's a huge mistake, now all of their statements can be scrutinized.


George Zimmerman "does not properly respect the law or the integrity of the judicial process," Lester wrote.'

Well looks like the judge doesn't like Zimmerman already, nor we should believe anything that liar says.

You don't have to believe him.  The way the law works, the State has to make a case that is believable beyond all reasonable doubt.  Even if the defendant has a track record of similiar crimes, he still gets the benefit of the doubt.  In this case, it looks as if Zimmerman got greedy and lied so he could keep the money.  He may well go to jail for that.  But he still gets the benefit of the doubt on the Trayvon shooting.

Doesn't Trayvon get the benefit of the doubt too? he has no history committing violent crimes

[RodeoX]

Doesn't Trayvon get the benefit of the doubt too? he has no history committing violent crimes

He certainly should, but what facts are in dispute? All the claims I have heard in his defense have been made by people who weren't there.  Crap like "the police video proves he was not injured", or "Treyvon was heard pleading for his life on the audio". Now we know it was GZ begging for help and that the police video clearly shows his injuries. And remember the "raciest remark". Sounded something like "fgeoeoiaohe owdiupoar".

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Now we know it was GZ begging for help and that the police video clearly shows his injuries. And remember the "raciest remark". Sounded something like "fgeoeoiaohe owdiupoar".

No we don't. You know nothing. Unless a court releases records it's a hearsay. What we know that GZ has a history of violence.


Soon we can read what Zimmerman said to police:
http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/judge-george-zimmerman-statements-can-be-released/nPTTn/

Also the judge about Zimmerman:

http://www.flcourts18.org/PDF/Press_Releases/order%20revoking%20bond.pdf

There are several factors that weigh against [George Zimmerman's] release: this is a serious charge for which life may be imposed; the evidence against him is strong; he has been charged with one prior crime, for which he went through a pre-trial diversion program, and has had an injunction lodged against him" for domestic violence.

"Most importantly, though, is the fact that he has now demonstrated that he does not properly respect the law or the integrity of the judicial process," Lester wrote.

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Does anyone not find it ironic that the money Zimmerman collected for his "defense fund" is what got him back in jail and may put his wife in there too.

[JeffK]

Doesn't Trayvon get the benefit of the doubt too? he has no history committing violent crimes

Now we know it was GZ begging for help and that the police video clearly shows his injuries.

Yeah

We know that Zimmerman was injured, but that the EMTs did not think he was injured enough to warrant any medical attention right away. The cut on his head and the mark on his face to not match Zimmerman's description of the "head pounding" that took place at all.

Also, we DO NOT know it was Zimmerman screaming for help, the statements on that were "Not Zimmerman, but unconfirmed on Trayvon"(first audio experts) and "unconfirmable either way"(FBI)


There were stories reporting that in one statement, Zimmerman claimed he was jumped by Trayvon and Trayvon held his hand over GZ's mouth during the fight, which if true conflicts with the notion of the screams belonging to Zimmerman

I'm sure we'll find out a little bit more about the exact statements Zimmerman made to police soon though

[JeffK]

Does anyone not find it ironic that the money Zimmerman collected for his "defense fund" is what got him back in jail and may put his wife in there too.

The real poetry will be in the post-trial inevitable wrongful death civil suit from Trayvon's family, where all that donated money left over gets turned over to them

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They should of put the money into bitcoin.

Which would have worked only if no transactions were in hard currency.  So they couldn't have used PayPal to collect the money in the first place.  They couldn't have paid their credit cards with Bitcoin.  I doubt they could have paid many of their living expenses with Bitcoin.  And they would have needed to find a lawyer who accepted Bitcoins and who wasn't obliged as an officer of the court to report that they had assets they could liquidate.  If anything, using Bitcoin would have made it look even more like they were attempting to hide assets and avoid AML/FinSEC reporting requirements.