www.realgg.nl is a SCAM SITE

[meagain]

Hi..
i tried to convert some ukash to paypal..
i received an email acknowledging receipt,..
that was all..

there was even a mistake in it, used Euro instead of GBP
If they would have trustfully worked on it, i would have been noticed or something..
But nothing... they dont even reaact on emails....
trying to split the code on ukash.com didn't work, because the code has been used.

So, money gone, no answer from this guys!!!!!!

FUCK OFF

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[gensen]

When did you tried it because we dont even exchange Ukash to Paypal!
Please give me your order details !

[the joint]

When did you tried it because we dont even exchange Ukash to Paypal!
Please give me your order details !

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=64573.msg761427#msg761427

Do you need a Exchange !? We can do it! whit or new method we are able to Exchange your e-money in to the currency you like!

www.realgg.nl  

Ukash

- Ukash -> Bitcoins (15% Fee)
- Ukash -> Liberty Reserve (15% Fee)
- Ukash -> Western Union (15% Fee)
- Ukash -> Paypal (15% Fee)
- Ukash -> Moneybookers (10% Fee)
- Ukash -> Neteller (15% Fee)
- Ukash -> Perfect Money (15% Fee)
- Ukash -> Webmoney (15% Fee)

Start Trade

------------------------------------------------------------------------
  
Bitcoins

- Bitcoin -> Ukash (10% Fee)
- Bitcoin -> Liberty Reserve (10% Fee)
- Bitcoin -> Western Union (10% Fee)
- Bitcoin -> Paypal (10% Fee)
- Bitcoin -> Moneybookers (10% Fee)
- Bitcoin -> Neteller (10% Fee)
- Bitcoin -> Perfect Money (10% Fee)
- Bitcoin -> Webmoney (10% Fee)

Start Trade

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Paypal

 

- Paypal -> Ukash (10% Fee)
- Paypal -> Bitcoin (15% Fee)
- Paypal -> Liberty Reserve (15% Fee)
- Paypal -> Western Onion (10% Fee)
- Paypal -> Moneybookers (10% Fee)
- Paypal -> Neteller (10% Fee)
- Paypal -> Perfect Money (10% Fee)
- Paypal -> Webmoney (10% Fee)

Start Trade

------------------------------------------------------------------------
  
Liberty Reserve

 

- LibertyR -> Ukash (15% Fee)
- LibertyR -> Bitcoin (15% Fee)
- LibertyR -> Western Union (15% Fee)
- LibertyR -> Paypal (15% Fee)
- LibertyR -> Moneybookers (10% Fee)
- LibertyR -> Neteller (15%Fee)
- LibertyR -> Perfect Money (10% Fee)
- LibertyR -> Webmoney (10% Fee)

Start Trade

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Western Union

 

- WesternU -> Bitcoin (15% Fee)
- WesternU -> Ukash (15% Fee)
- WesternU -> Liberty reserve (20% Fee)
- WesternU -> Paypal (10% Fee)
- WesternU -> Moneybookers (10% Fee)
- WesternU -> Neteller (10% Fee)
- WesternU -> Perfect Money (10% Fee)
- WesternU -> Webmoney (10% Fee)

Start Trade

------------------------------------------------------------------------
  
Moneybookers

 

- Moneybookers -> Bitcoin (15% Fee)
- Moneybookers -> Liberty Reserve (20% Fee)
- Moneybookers -> Western Union (10% Fee)
- Moneybookers -> Ukash (10% Fee)
- Moneybookers -> Paypal (10% Fee)
- Moneybookers -> Neteller (10% Fee)
- Moneybookers -> Perfect Money (10% Fee)
- Moneybookers -> Webmoney (10% Fee)

Start Trade

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Neteller

- Neteller -> Bitcoin (15% Fee)
- Neteller -> Liberty Reserve (20% Fee)
- Neteller -> Western Union (10% Fee)
- Neteller -> Ukash (10% Fee)
- Neteller -> Paypal (10% Fee)
- Neteller -> Moneybookers (10% Fee)
- Neteller -> Perfect Money (10% Fee)
- Neteller -> Webmoney (10% Fee)


Start Trade

------------------------------------------------------------------------
  
Perfect Money

- Perfect Money -> Bitcoin (15% Fee)
- Perfect Money -> Liberty Reserve (20% Fee)
- Perfect Money -> Western Union (10% Fee)
- Perfect Money -> Ukash (10% Fee)
- Perfect Money -> Paypal (10% Fee)
- Perfect Money -> Moneybookers (10% Fee)
- Perfect Money -> Neteller (10% Fee)
- Perfect Money-> Webmoney (10% Fee)



Start Trade

------------------------------------------------------------------------

WEBMONEY


- Webmoney -> Bitcoin
- Webmoney -> Liberty Reserve
- Webmoney -> Western Union
- Webmoney -> Ukash
- Webmoney -> Paypal
- Webmoney -> Moneybookers
- Webmoney -> Perfect money
- Webmoney -> Neteller

Start Trade

Oh you don't?  Then why did you say that you did?

[Matthew N. Wright]

[John (John K.)]

When did you tried it because we dont even exchange Ukash to Paypal!
Please give me your order details !

I see something shady going on here.

Hi,

You can try www.realgg.nl

Do you need a Exchange !? We can do it! whit or new method we are able to Exchange your e-money in to the currency you like!

Ukash

- Ukash -> Bitcoins (15% Fee)
- Ukash -> Liberty Reserve (15% Fee)
- Ukash -> Western Union (15% Fee)
- Ukash -> Paypal (15% Fee)
- Ukash -> Moneybookers (10% Fee)
- Ukash -> Neteller (15% Fee)
- Ukash -> Perfect Money (15% Fee)
- Ukash -> Webmoney (15% Fee)

Start Trade

------------------------------------------------------------------------
   
Bitcoins

- Bitcoin -> Ukash (10% Fee)
- Bitcoin -> Liberty Reserve (10% Fee)
- Bitcoin -> Western Union (10% Fee)
- Bitcoin -> Paypal (10% Fee)
- Bitcoin -> Moneybookers (10% Fee)
- Bitcoin -> Neteller (10% Fee)
- Bitcoin -> Perfect Money (10% Fee)
- Bitcoin -> Webmoney (10% Fee)

Start Trade

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Paypal

 

- Paypal -> Ukash (10% Fee)
- Paypal -> Bitcoin (15% Fee)
- Paypal -> Liberty Reserve (15% Fee)
- Paypal -> Western Onion (10% Fee)
- Paypal -> Moneybookers (10% Fee)
- Paypal -> Neteller (10% Fee)
- Paypal -> Perfect Money (10% Fee)
- Paypal -> Webmoney (10% Fee)

Start Trade

------------------------------------------------------------------------
   
Liberty Reserve

 

- LibertyR -> Ukash (15% Fee)
- LibertyR -> Bitcoin (15% Fee)
- LibertyR -> Western Union (15% Fee)
- LibertyR -> Paypal (15% Fee)
- LibertyR -> Moneybookers (10% Fee)
- LibertyR -> Neteller (15%Fee)
- LibertyR -> Perfect Money (10% Fee)
- LibertyR -> Webmoney (10% Fee)

Start Trade

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Western Union

 

- WesternU -> Bitcoin (15% Fee)
- WesternU -> Ukash (15% Fee)
- WesternU -> Liberty reserve (20% Fee)
- WesternU -> Paypal (10% Fee)
- WesternU -> Moneybookers (10% Fee)
- WesternU -> Neteller (10% Fee)
- WesternU -> Perfect Money (10% Fee)
- WesternU -> Webmoney (10% Fee)

Start Trade

------------------------------------------------------------------------
   
Moneybookers

 

- Moneybookers -> Bitcoin (15% Fee)
- Moneybookers -> Liberty Reserve (20% Fee)
- Moneybookers -> Western Union (10% Fee)
- Moneybookers -> Ukash (10% Fee)
- Moneybookers -> Paypal (10% Fee)
- Moneybookers -> Neteller (10% Fee)
- Moneybookers -> Perfect Money (10% Fee)
- Moneybookers -> Webmoney (10% Fee)

Start Trade

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Neteller

- Neteller -> Bitcoin (15% Fee)
- Neteller -> Liberty Reserve (20% Fee)
- Neteller -> Western Union (10% Fee)
- Neteller -> Ukash (10% Fee)
- Neteller -> Paypal (10% Fee)
- Neteller -> Moneybookers (10% Fee)
- Neteller -> Perfect Money (10% Fee)
- Neteller -> Webmoney (10% Fee)


Start Trade

------------------------------------------------------------------------
   
Perfect Money

- Perfect Money -> Bitcoin (15% Fee)
- Perfect Money -> Liberty Reserve (20% Fee)
- Perfect Money -> Western Union (10% Fee)
- Perfect Money -> Ukash (10% Fee)
- Perfect Money -> Paypal (10% Fee)
- Perfect Money -> Moneybookers (10% Fee)
- Perfect Money -> Neteller (10% Fee)
- Perfect Money-> Webmoney (10% Fee)



Start Trade

------------------------------------------------------------------------

WEBMONEY


- Webmoney -> Bitcoin
- Webmoney -> Liberty Reserve
- Webmoney -> Western Union
- Webmoney -> Ukash
- Webmoney -> Paypal
- Webmoney -> Moneybookers
- Webmoney -> Perfect money
- Webmoney -> Neteller

Start Trade

Buyers interested of dealing with this entity, beware.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

The following two reasons is why I would not have done business with realgg.nl

First:

Hi,

I found a website matbe they can help you! www.realgg.nl

Many people don't know where to get Bitcoins BTC after a search of a few hours maybe you come to the right place to get them!

Once you are on the right place you will find out the only way to get them by a wired transfer trough your bank. If you are dying to get Bitcoins you make a wired transfer, now you must wait for days maybe a week!
We handel it in a few hour!

For a lot of people this is not a easy and a quick way to get your loving Bitcoins BTC.
Thats why there are a hand full of exchange services that are willing to trade currency's, like Ukash, Liberty Reserve, Paypal, Webmoney, Cashu, Walliecard or Perfect money to Bitcoins or visa verse.

We from Real G&G wanna make the world a better place and that we offer you also that kind of service Real G&G Exchange.

For the actual fees on exchange service or currency's we handle and more details on this go to the Real G&G Exchange service page !

Second: Where the hell is Nederland?

~Bruno~

[Phinnaeus Gage]

I'm not done yet!!!

Check out this shit:

According to his site's source code we have...

meta name="keywords" content="Exchange, Buy, Bitcoin, Paypal, Ukash, Website, internet Marketing"

Now couple that with the below...

When did you tried it because we dont even exchange Ukash to Paypal!
Please give me your order details !

And we have due cause to tag this guy. (This is the first time on this forum I have ever made such a formal request to do such.)

Also in source code:

<title>Websites internet marketing exchange Bitcoins Paypal Ukash tips and tricks - HowTo</title>

Realgg.nl Website Information

Title: Websites internet marketing exchange Bitcoins Paypal Ukash tips and tricks - HowTo
Description: Exchange Buy Bitcoin Paypal, Ukash Websites and internet Marketing
Keywords: Exchange, Buy, Bitcoin, Paypal, Ukash, Website, internet Marketing

~Bruno~

[gensen]

Yes it look strange right!? but in the past i did exchange Whit Payal but because of many scamm customers i did the last paypal transaction 3 months ago, "My Paypal acounts are Fozen"

In the exchage menu you onley see the follow option!




2    Bitcoins to 3V Visa
3    3V Visa to Bitcoin
4    Esso Extras exchange
5    Liberty Reserve to Bitcoin
6    Ukash to real cash Exchange
7    Moneybookers to Bitcoin
8    Ukash To Moneybookers Exchange
9    Perfect Money Bitcoins exchange
10    Bitcoin to Paypal Exchange
11    Neteller to Bitcoin Exchange
12    Money by Letter (post mail) at your home address.
13    Paypal To Bitcoins
14    Buying Ukash
15    Ukash to Bitcoin



if you choose 10 or 13 Paypal to Bitcoin "The onley Paypal that i did" you get the follow message.


As susspected Paypal frooze my two paypal accounts temporary for further research!!

To Get Bitcoins Please Use:


- Liberty Reserve
- Ukash
- Moneybookers
- Neteller
- Perfect Money
- Pay safe

[gensen]

I just made some minor updates on the website to get Paypal out.


-The E-money Page https://www.realgg.nl/index.php/e-money
-Meta Tags and description
-Website Name
-Home Page
 

The next few days i intent make a few more, to make thing more clear, easy and correct!
 

[gensen]

Hi..
i tried to convert some ukash to paypal..
i received an email acknowledging receipt,..
that was all..

there was even a mistake in it, used Euro instead of GBP
If they would have trustfully worked on it, i would have been noticed or something..
But nothing... they dont even reaact on emails....
trying to split the code on ukash.com didn't work, because the code has been used.

So, money gone, no answer from this guys!!!!!!

FUCK OFF

There is someone whit the user name meagain registered on my website!

He onley give me this order:



Details:

Ukash voucher number
1JoSyauCBNz7Nf1A19BG26svFR1NiQweFc  Wrong voucher number



Ukash value
20 GBP



BitCoin deposit address
1JoSyauCBNz7Nf1A19BG26svFR1NiQweFc



Meagain is this you or do you have a other username on my website?

Please let me know, Whitout some details i cant do anything to help!

[david.D]

Realy SCAM.
dont trust him.
Hi,
 
I received  the voucher i will handel your order  ASAP. 2.52 PM
My wallet is empty.
don't answer to my e-mail.

[david.D]

my firt post about this SCAM REALGG.NL
But its only start)

[ElitePork]

Had done a few transactions on realgg. All went good.

Received more than 60BTC from him!

[david.D]

I can wait but..... ASAP meens  ASAP...

[ElitePork]

He might not online. I just sent him another transaction and he has not reply. So just wait and update us here

[BCB]

ElitePork = gensen ??

[david.D]

OK..
up tomorrow. so many scammers! not a first time my Ukash go for beer somebody) not for me)

[John (John K.)]

ElitePork = gensen ??

To put it frankly, I don't trust both sides of this story. I'd much rather stay with another reputable Bitcoin exchanger, or simply do this at Bitcoin-OTC just to stay out of this.

[david.D]

ElitePork = gensen ??  

[ElitePork]

I'm not sure how does the accusation of me = gensen comes about. But I am not him.

Proof of him sending me BTC, taken from my mobile so there is no way I can edit it.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/600/photolxl.jpg/

Admins/Mods should be able to check our IPs but skeptical people will start thinking about VPN...

@John,
Yes, we can find reputable BTC exchanger but everyone starts from small... So we should give chance to this guy.

To err is human, to forgive is divine.
Regards
EP

[BCB]

I'm just pointing out red flags. 

All members I have traded with provided some type of verification.   ElitePork is the only one who chose not to verify anything.  Then ElitePork says he's traded with gensen and gensen can vouch for him.  Now in this thread gensen is being accused of scammy behavior.

We need to encourage a vibrant, honest trading community.

Unless proven otherwise it seems ElitePork and gensen are at this time questionable trading partners.

[david.D]

TNX to BCB.
Try to find TRUE!

[ElitePork]

I think it's fine if you guys don't want to trade with me if I didn't provide any verification as I want to be anonymous over the net.
But gensen did trade with me and i can provide screenshots.

So believe it or not, up to you. I'm not here for a war but to find BTC.
Ciaoz
EP

[John (John K.)]

I'm not sure how does the accusation of me = gensen comes about. But I am not him.

Proof of him sending me BTC, taken from my mobile so there is no way I can edit it.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/600/photolxl.jpg/

Admins/Mods should be able to check our IPs but skeptical people will start thinking about VPN...

@John,
Yes, we can find reputable BTC exchanger but everyone starts from small... So we should give chance to this guy.

To err is human, to forgive is divine.
Regards
EP

As I've stated above, I don't really trust both sides of the story personally - either the scammer accusations or the vouches. This site does not have the usual characteristics of a scam site, but I would however use a more reputable exchanger to save the headaches incurred as there is money at stake.

Just my BTC0.2, don't take it personally. 

[david.D]

my wallet still empty.
realgg.nl scammer(((
if some body know when i can sell ukash and buy BTC please write me.
Best regards
David

[gensen]

my wallet still empty.
realgg.nl scammer(((
if some body know when i can sell ukash and buy BTC please write me.
Best regards
David

Hi david i sent you a couple emails whit your order status!

[Stephen Gornick]

if some body know when i can sell ukash and buy BTC please write me.

Bitcoin Nordic accepts CashU, which in turn allows UKash vouchers for adding funds.

 - http://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/UKash
 - http://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bitcoin_Nordic

[ElitePork]

Hi david,
Please update us so we know what's going on and what's true.
I just completed another 220USD exchange with him
EP

[toonevdb]

Hello,

I've probably been stupid..
I ordered an exchange of €7 Ukash to Bitcoin on the realgg.nl website.
After completing the order, I immediately received a email confirming the order.
However after 3 days, I haven't received any bitcoin.

I contacted the owner both through this site by PM and at info@realgg.nl.
I hope to receive a reply and my bitcoins..

If I do not, I will file a police complaint as this is theft.

Meh..

[gensen]

Hello,


Please read http://www.realgg.nl/index.php/terms-of-service

Ordering and Payment Limits
The minimum value for ordering currencies on-line is €50, the maximum €2000.

Delivery by internet
Orders from monday till vryday between 10:00 AM and 18:00 PM (UTC+01:00 Amsterdam, Berlijn, Bern, Rome, Stoockholm, Wenen) will be handeled in a few hours, but it can take up to 12 hours, if ordered before or after this time it will be handled but they may take some more time to procces.

Thank you.

[toonevdb]

Hello,

@gensen Thanks for the reply. I did not know about the minimum order value..
Also it's been 3 days and with the rather negative comments in this thread, i was almost sure my money was gone.

I'll try to exchange the voucher with someone to check if it's still working.
I can't check it any other way..

[Bralim]

I had a lot of successful orders with Real GG... but I am still waiting for my last one (It's been already a bit longer then a whole week).
Last week I received an E-Mail about some security issues with will be fixed as soon as possible and that they would send out the BTC straight afterwards... WTF? What kind of security issues???
That's really strange and I am surprised and disappointed, since I was used to a very good service of Real GG in the past.

Haven't seen my money yet... I'm wondering if I will ever see some of it again! 

[gensen]

I had a lot of successful orders with Real GG... but I am still waiting for my last one (It's been already a bit longer then a whole week).
Last week I received an E-Mail about some security issues with will be fixed as soon as possible and that they would send out the BTC straight afterwards... WTF? What kind of security issues???
That's really strange and I am surprised and disappointed, since I was used to a very good service of Real GG in the past.

Haven't seen my money yet... I'm wondering if I will ever see some of it again! 

Hey Bralim,

I now make some considerations to the duped customers who have sent me money through moneybookers so you guys can get their money back quickly, before the problem is solved with Moneybookers because I really do not know how long it will take!

What is The Moneybookers security problem?
Many customers paid Bitoins With Moneybookers, Moneybookers here by Froze my account to check where  the money comes from and whether it has nothing to do with money laundering and terrorist financing.

Until the investigation is over I can not get my money and if Moneybookers does not trust everything they will Rollback transfers. This way I can lose money if I'm paying customers BTC now.

I hope you understand this nasty situation and I'd do really everything to everyone for a quick solution.

Kind Regards Genni

[gensen]

Hello,

@gensen Thanks for the reply. I did not know about the minimum order value..
Also it's been 3 days and with the rather negative comments in this thread, i was almost sure my money was gone.

I'll try to exchange the voucher with someone to check if it's still working.
I can't check it any other way..

Hello Toonevdb,

Did it worked out whit the voucher and did you find address where you can check the value of it?

Maybe you can take a look at Ukash.com and try to Split and combine the voucher.

Cheers

[toonevdb]

Hello Toonevdb,

Did it worked out whit the voucher and did you find address where you can check the value of it?

Maybe you can take a look at Ukash.com and try to Split and combine the voucher.

Cheers

Yes, the voucher was still valid. I was able to split it

[Justaguy]

I made a few transactions with this seller, awesome support, prompt and polite replies.
I am sure that whoever complains in the manner that OP did, is just a scammer or someone underage that doesn't know how any form of support works.
Gensen is really professional and i am sure even if he made any mistake, he would happily correct it without hesitation.

Also, Gen, thanks for all the smooth transactions, i am glad that there are people even thousands of km away from me that are able to honour even the smallest business deals and i can trust.

[gensen]

I made a few transactions with this seller, awesome support, prompt and polite replies.
I am sure that whoever complains in the manner that OP did, is just a scammer or someone underage that doesn't know how any form of support works.
Gensen is really professional and i am sure even if he made any mistake, he would happily correct it without hesitation.

Also, Gen, thanks for all the smooth transactions, i am glad that there are people even thousands of km away from me that are able to honour even the smallest business deals and i can trust.

Thanks for nice Feedback, i really appreciate you as trusted customer.

Thank you.

Gensen

[subhuman]

i haven't done any business with "realgg.nl" yet. i've just ordered a visa card, where i should cash out btc's. the whole order process was a catastrophe. after i've paid, i received an automatic message, that my order will be processed as soon as possible. i waited about 3-weeks, but didn't receive a msg., that my card has already been shipped. so i urged via mail. they say, that the card is still processing & i should be patient. so i waited another 2-3-weeks. after this time, i warned "realgg.nl"-support, that i will declare their site as scam on several sites i know. (webpage-checker) in the end, it took 2 1/2 months till i received my "btc-credit card"... - but NOT the one i've ordered, with my real name on it! instead card holders name is "john do" or something...

now my question: i've read the thread and it obviously smells like scam, but were their any recent exchanges, etc. with this exchanger?

regards,
subhuman 

[hulk]

Thanks for sharing, good to know before someone else get scammed again.. Hate those scammers..

[hulk]

i haven't done any business with "realgg.nl" yet. i've just ordered a visa card, where i should cash out btc's. the whole order process was a catastrophe. after i've paid, i received an automatic message, that my order will be processed as soon as possible. i waited about 3-weeks, but didn't receive a msg., that my card has already been shipped. so i urged via mail. they say, that the card is still processing & i should be patient. so i waited another 2-3-weeks. after this time, i warned "realgg.nl"-support, that i will declare their site as scam on several sites i know. (webpage-checker) in the end, it took 2 1/2 months till i received my "btc-credit card"... - but NOT the one i've ordered, with my real name on it! instead card holders name is "john do" or something...

now my question: i've read the thread and it obviously smells like scam, but were their any recent exchanges, etc. with this exchanger?

regards,
subhuman 

I just realised that this post was 1 year ago, why did you bump old topics...

[gensen]

For your information, Real G&G www.realgg.nl always supplies all requested services and products with a customer satisfaction rate of 97%.
There are always some who have experienced some discomfort or who claim that they are at a disadvantage by us.
Our customer service is always ready to help and resolve any inconvenience that may arise!

Feel free to contact us again in case of any questions or issues. You can reach our customer service at support@realgg.nl

Please be advised that www.realgg.nl is back to its core business, Web Hosting, Design, IT, and service!

www.realgg.nl no longer sells bitcoin but these are available through a new Bitcoin exchange platform.
You can also visit the new exchange to buy  Litcoins!

You can find this platform www.btctotal.com