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June 15, 2012, 07:28:58 AM
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I was going to try buying some bitcoins from mtgox when I noticed the message on the bottom of their page. Not sure I understand it but it appears they won't allow connections through TOR or VPN servers. Well, that won't cut it, for me. Half the reason I'm trying bitcoin is for the privacy.

Does anyone have a list of exchanges that won't be acting like a stinking bank in the US? That won't care if I access it through VPN servers or TOR?
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June 15, 2012, 08:34:31 AM
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Not that I am aware of

The exchanges operate at the Bitcoin /Fiat interface, most have to follow laws regarding the fiat bit in their jurisdiction.
Sad but true.....

join #bitcoin-otc on freenode, build some trust and deal with people not exchanges

Dont expect the people that run exchanges to break laws to help you be "private" Smiley

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June 15, 2012, 06:38:07 PM
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I'll give bitcoin-otc a look, thanks.

I tried finding a local trader with tradebitcoin.com, but it doesn't give me anything. I don't know if it is saying there are no local traders in either Portland or Seattle, or if it is simply broken. You'd think if it could find no one, it would tell you that.

I was looking at the exchanges on this page: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Buying_bitcoins
It looks like VirWoX allows payment using a debit card, if I am reading it properly.

I just want to get my feet wet; I'm not buying $10,000 worth of bitcoins. Maybe $50 for starters.
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June 15, 2012, 06:42:02 PM
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Try bitfloor.com. They didn't ask me for any personal information.

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June 15, 2012, 08:11:39 PM
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bitcoin-otc looks complicated, and I don't do IRC anyway.

I was looking at payment methods. Can someone tell me why debit cards are not on this list? I don't even know if chargebacks are possible with debit cards, but my guess is no, so they should be a pretty good method, eh?

There are so many esoteric methods to pay. It's funny it's so hard to get $50 worth of bitcoins, while I had no problem selling a $1200 gun on gunbroker.com, even with all the extra crap BATFE puts into the process.
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June 15, 2012, 08:14:44 PM
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bitcoin-otc looks complicated, and I don't do IRC anyway.

I was looking at payment methods. Can someone tell me why debit cards are not on this list? I don't even know if chargebacks are possible with debit cards, but my guess is no, so they should be a pretty good method, eh?

There are so many esoteric methods to pay. It's funny it's so hard to get $50 worth of bitcoins, while I had no problem selling a $1200 gun on gunbroker.com, even with all the extra crap BATFE puts into the process.

It's very easy to get $50 worth of bitcoins.

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June 16, 2012, 12:47:38 AM
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I was looking at payment methods. Can someone tell me why debit cards are not on this list? I don't even know if chargebacks are possible with debit cards, but my guess is no, so they should be a pretty good method, eh?

Why would you guess that? Of course chargebacks are possible with debit cards, for exactly the same reason they are with credit cards. There is absolutely no difference between a debit card and a credit card other than that the money comes from your bank account instead of the issuer's bank account, thus saving the issuer the trouble of sending you a bill every month.

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June 17, 2012, 02:48:25 PM
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Maybe that wiki line should be changed from "credit card" to "credit cards and debit cards"...
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June 17, 2012, 04:47:53 PM
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I think intersango is okay, they are pretty good
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